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[RIROCKHOUND]

For Christ sake Jim.
Seriously, a JFK clip vs an ignorant voter?
what are you bored at the office today? I expect better from you

It has been hashed here many many times. there are ignorant voters on both sides. I bet with a few minutes on youtube I can find a racist or anti-gay or Obama is a muslim clip from a McCain or GWB supporter.

Now if Obama was saying 'I'm going to pay their cas and mortgage" You have a valid comparision.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

For Christ sake Jim.
Seriously, a JFK clip vs an ignorant voter?
what are you bored at the office today? I expect better from you

It has been hashed here many many times. there are ignorant voters on both sides. I bet with a few minutes on youtube I can find a racist or anti-gay or Obama is a muslim clip from a McCain or GWB supporter.

Now if Obama was saying 'I'm going to pay their cas and mortgage" You have a valid comparision.

we are talking about a change in the country, a movement away from self reliance. Kennedy's speech was a call to action. Americans understood and believed in it. It would fall on deaf ears today.
I think these clips perfectly illustrates the change. This lady would have been deemed a commie in 1961 and marched out of the country if she made those remarks.

[striperman36]

I think the comparison of is valid in showing the perverse sense of entitlement American's believe they have coming to them from the government.

We've gone from a country that would do anything to stay off the dole to a country that refuses to work for anything

[RIJIMMY]

here you go Bryan....

blames everyone EXCEPT the individuals that took the loans. No blame whatsoever on the individuals, ie: self reliance

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

here you go Bryan....

blames everyone EXCEPT the individuals that took the loans. No blame whatsoever on the individuals, ie: self reliance

Actually, he doesn't blame everyone except the individuals. He specifically addresses the Wall Street bailout and the responsibility to cover the costs of the bailout by firms that benefited from it. If this were a discussion of the causes of housing collapse, then you would be correct. Since it isn't and unless you are implying that the financial firms should have been left to collapse, then it is almost totally unrelated to self reliance.

[RIJIMMY]

then there my favorite of all time...