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Old 04-07-2017, 08:07 AM   #61
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As I said before you are assuming what a small % of the population does represents the whole population and assigning that thing to the full population - even though the demographics of the sample are totally different than the whole population. That is not intellectually honest.

That is like my saying the we know the kkk is racist and supports rep. therefore all reps. are racist. If you really think that cons. don't engage in racism at a rate that is disproportionate to their portion of the population, then we should stop responding to each other altogether.
"you are assuming what a small % of the population does represents the whole population "

Wrong, wrong, wrong. I am not saying al liberals are rioters, or that all liberals support riots (though not many pundits criticize the rioters, most justify it). Again, I ask a simple question, and instead of answering, you point out some of my many flaws.

Here is what I am doing. I am asking you, if liberals are more prone to riot, than conservatives. I'm not saying all liberals do it, I am not saying all liberals condone it. I am asking if politically-motivated rioting exists more commonly on the left than the right.

Yes or no?

I happily concede all of my shortcomings, you don't need to point them out, this is a yes or no answer. And if the answer is yes (which it obviously is), here is the real question - why?
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Old 04-07-2017, 08:10 AM   #62
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That is like my saying the we know the kkk is racist and supports rep. therefore all reps. are racist. If you really think that cons. don't engage in racism at a rate that is disproportionate to their portion of the population, then we should stop responding to each other altogether.
Not remotely the same thing. Because 99% of the republicans in DC, and the conservative pundits you see on TV, call out the KKK for what they are.

Very, very few liberal politicians, and very few liberal talking heads, suggest that the rioters are wrong because even offensive conservatives have the right to speak.

Every single host on Foxnews despises the Klan. How many hosts at CNN tell the college rioters to shut up and let Milo speak?
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Old 04-07-2017, 08:34 AM   #63
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That is like my saying the we know the kkk is racist and supports rep. therefore all reps. are racist.
Funny - history shows they were Dems and progressives

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Old 04-07-2017, 08:58 AM   #64
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Funny - history shows they were Dems and progressives
Obviously true, but his point (which is also true) is that today, most Klansmen probably vote Republican. Which is actually against their cause in my opinion, but that's a separate issue for another time.

It's also a safe bet that most Islamic radicals vote democrat. Same with drug dealers, black panthers, and welfare cheats. So I'm not sure either party wants to be identified by the worst elements in their voting base.

My point is that Republicans don't excuse the behavior of racists in their midst. But these liberal rioters, when do they ever get criticized by liberal pundits or liberal politicians? When do they ever get called fascists by liberals on CNN or ABC or NBC?
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Old 04-07-2017, 09:01 AM   #65
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Funny - history shows they were Dems and progressives
Yes, historically but not anymore. Parties flipped flopped.
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Old 04-07-2017, 09:10 AM   #66
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"you are assuming what a small % of the population does represents the whole population "

Wrong, wrong, wrong. I am not saying al liberals are rioters, or that all liberals support riots sure, that is exactly what you do. Very rarely do you specify the sub set you are talking about. (though not many pundits criticize the rioters, most justify it). Again, I ask a simple question, and instead of answering, you point out some of my many flaws.

Here is what I am doing. I am asking you, if liberals are more prone to riot, than conservatives.No, I don't think so. I'm not saying all liberals do it, I am not saying all liberals condone it. I am asking if politically-motivated rioting exists more commonly on the left than the right.I would agree that there are more liberals in college than conserv. in college who "riot" but I think there are more people in those "riots" who have no political affiliation or identification than identify as liberal. When BLM rioted, those folks were angry that they felt they were treated differently from whites - their policital party (if they even had one) had nothing to do with it. In some of the riots, some of the people are anarchists, some are doing it bc of the mob mentality and some are doing bc they want to steal things.

Yes or no?

I happily concede all of my shortcomings, you don't need to point them out, this is a yes or no answer. And if the answer is yes (which it obviously is), here is the real question - why?
You're making a broad generalization by assigning something to them that I don't think is correct.
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Old 04-07-2017, 09:23 AM   #67
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You're making a broad generalization by assigning something to them that I don't think is correct.
So you don't think liberals are more prone to political riots than conservatives. Thank you for providing a direct answer.

So you can point to as many conservative-led riots, as I can point to liberal-led riots? You really think so?

Can you name a single conservative-led political riot from the last 20 years? Because if I factor in the Trump election, what happens at every college when a conservative tries to speak, what happens every time white police officer shoots a black person, I can come up with many, many examples of liberal-led riots.
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Old 04-07-2017, 09:25 AM   #68
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You're making a broad generalization by assigning something to them that I don't think is correct.
"When BLM rioted, those folks were angry that they felt they were treated differently from whites - their policital party (if they even had one) had nothing to do with it. "

Bullsh*t.

It's the democrat machine that fuels the notion that institutional racism exists, and it's the democratic machine that perpetuates the horrible lie that white police officers are a problem.
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Old 04-16-2017, 08:54 PM   #69
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I haven't once said it is ok - just that some reactions are going to be expected based on the actions.
And, after actions against free speech, happen over and over and are not stopped by those who should stop the suppression of speech, then eventually, reactions to the shutting down of free speech "are [as you say] going to be expected,". It's going to get crazy if the thugs who are stopping people from speaking are not stopped:


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Interesting opponent versus Warren. Does he have a chance?

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Old 07-17-2017, 06:59 AM   #71
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You can only afford to be a liberal if your young and just starting out or poor and living on handouts. Once you start to take off, it is a luxury you can't afford. I am in favor in helping folks that legitimaly need it, I don't want people dying or living in the streets to other 3rd world countries signing up with the Russians or Chinese. It would be great to cut taxes for all of us. What could you do with an extra 5 or 10 k of your own hard earned money. I live in Mass. This is a list of taxes I have to pay.
Real estate tax
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What I could do with that extra money.

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Old 07-18-2017, 08:20 AM   #72
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Interesting opponent versus Warren. Does he have a chance?

He's coming out swinging, that's for sure. He offered to pay for her DNA test to see how much Native American DNA she really has.

I think Warren has set her sights higher than the US Senate. Me think-um that Princess Spreading Bull wants to live in teepee of Great White Chief. Ugh.

I am very happy this post got brought back to life.

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Old 07-18-2017, 09:47 AM   #73
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each party's version of bat-#^&#^&#^&#^& crazy on the same ballot. Yeah, that would be just friggin awesome.

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Interesting opponent versus Warren. Does he have a chance?

Hey, isn't this guy a Nazi?

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