View Full Version : painting aint so hard!!!


thefishingfreak
03-12-2004, 11:17 PM
spray silver

thefishingfreak
03-12-2004, 11:19 PM
spray purple on top

thefishingfreak
03-12-2004, 11:21 PM
spray blue{not as much}

thefishingfreak
03-12-2004, 11:24 PM
very small. long hair paintbrush.to make the lines.
spray black on top.

thefishingfreak
03-12-2004, 11:25 PM
little bit of dayglo floursent orange on the belly

thefishingfreak
03-12-2004, 11:27 PM
1st coat of clear.
notice it looks like crap.
very dry to hold the colors in place.
2nd 3rd and 4th coats should look the same......dry.

thefishingfreak
03-12-2004, 11:30 PM
the final coat is all that matters!!!!!

final coat sprayed on 'wet"

thefishingfreak
03-12-2004, 11:32 PM
:D

Slipknot
03-12-2004, 11:33 PM
You sir, are an artist! :kewl: :claps:

Slipknot
03-12-2004, 11:34 PM
have to pick my chin up off the floor now http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/eek2.gif :rolleyes: :smash: :eek: :eek:

fishaholic18
03-12-2004, 11:45 PM
All I can say is: WOW!!!!!!!!

thefishingfreak
03-12-2004, 11:52 PM
:happy:

Adam R
03-13-2004, 12:05 AM
Wow! That is truly awesome.

bassmaster
03-13-2004, 12:16 AM
wow that lure is awsome!!!!!!!!!!!

Notaro
03-13-2004, 12:51 AM
Damn, mfo, I need some tips from you for color blending. I am not doing well in my color and design class now....:eek: :D (Am I hijacking this thread?)

bud8fan
03-13-2004, 01:11 AM
was the stars and stripes plug done with rattle cans too?

I am going to agree with everyone else!!!

Your work is absolutely amazing!!

Just when you think you have seen everything!
Someone takes it to another level!!!


Great work!!!

winchmaster
03-13-2004, 01:39 AM
Excellent work That one is a mind blower!

Moses
03-13-2004, 01:59 AM
Truly awesome!!

Backbeach Jake
03-13-2004, 07:27 AM
Incredible!:eek:

MAC
03-13-2004, 07:38 AM
http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/eek2.gif is that flag plug hand painted? What a beautiful piece of work:claps: :claps: :claps:

thefishingfreak
03-13-2004, 09:18 AM
if you want a quality paint job you have to start at the very begining."reverse engineer it" think what you have to do in advance and have a plan,or at least have a dream.
you want the primer to be super smooth. 400 grit is ok.1000 is better. if there's any pin holes or gouges/scrathches in the plug they will show up x2 in the finished plug.
spray the colors on dry. that way you can work quicker. 3 coats of dry spray will dry 2x as fast as one wet one.
you need a warm shop. read any can of paint and you'll see "for best results use at 70 degrees" that means the "plug"and "the paint" has to be at 70 degrees, not 50.not 100. most paint will air dry at 70degrees, and every ten degree drop, the dry time doubles. i.e. 4 hrs. @ 70 degrees = 16 hrs@ 50 degrees etc....so if its 50 in your basement you'll have to work very slow.hanging plugs next to a 100 watt light bulb will help the cure time, because the heat they put out.

don't worry about the "shine" untill the very last coat.
the colors will look dry and dull, but when you spray the final coat of clear on they will come to life. and there will be no runs.

get yourself a resparator!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! don't be stupid!!!!
i use a 3m disposible mask.

i'm spraying into a media filter with a charcoal filter behind it. the fumes are bieng sucked thru the filters buy a fan in the back.this is not something you want to do arround your family w/out charcoal filters to filter out the isosianates in the paint!!!{looking for skull and crossbones key}.

crank up the music and get in the "zone"
mike

thefishingfreak
03-13-2004, 09:19 AM
spray white then mask off to spray blue

thefishingfreak
03-13-2004, 09:20 AM
fine line tape the white. and then spray red.

thefishingfreak
03-13-2004, 09:21 AM
draw a very small star on a piece of paper, then cut the star out w/ a very sharp razor. airbrush white stars over the blue

thefishingfreak
03-13-2004, 09:23 AM
add a little shadow and some hilites and ta dahhhh.....:happy:

Jigman
03-13-2004, 09:57 AM
:shocked: Now that is some amazing paint!!! Thanks for taking the time to show how its done :kewl:

Jigman

Slipknot
03-13-2004, 10:06 AM
http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/eek2.gifThanks Mike, that is truely a patriotic plug :claps:
Definately mind blowing :eek:

Surfster
03-13-2004, 10:23 AM
MR. Autobody Shop manager! Hey guys! He's a hustler!
Just kidding.
Anyone who can employ the talent they learned at work and got paid to learn it ........then turn it into something like this!
Thanks for the painting class!

PNG
03-13-2004, 10:26 AM
Simply amazing!!!

Love the tutorial, thanks

Christian
03-13-2004, 10:50 AM
HOLY SHNIKEYS!!!! that is un freekin believeable.

bassmaster
03-13-2004, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by Slipknot
http://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/eek2.gifThanks Mike, that is truely a patriotic plug :claps:
Definately mind blowing :eek:
what He said only Holy #^&#^&#^&#^&

Slingah
03-13-2004, 04:27 PM
very,very nice ff
I want one:D

Canalman
03-13-2004, 05:34 PM
Holycrapman! That is pretty... no REALLY Awe inspiring! How well does that clear hold up though?

-DAve

Striperknight
03-13-2004, 06:44 PM
Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D :D

steve f
03-13-2004, 06:46 PM
I am speechless that paint job is absolutly awsome and to do it with cans amazing you sir are a tru artist!!!!!!


Thanks for showing how you did that

P.S. I can't find the jaw dropping smiley but if I did there would be about 6 of them. This si the best I can find


Steve:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

MAC
03-13-2004, 06:58 PM
That is just truely amazing. As numerous others have stated you are an artisthttp://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/notworthy.gifhttp://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/notworthy.gifhttp://www.stopstart.freeserve.co.uk/smilie/notworthy.gif

Goose
03-13-2004, 07:14 PM
Thats a bad moe foe! Prop's for you dude.....in stainless.

rob-s
03-13-2004, 07:18 PM
:eek: :cool:yeeowza what a beauty

thefishingfreak
03-13-2004, 07:54 PM
the flag plug was not done with spray cans,,,but theres no reason it couldn't be.

the enamel clear on the first plug is pretty durable.if you plan to "fish" the plug it's a great choice.but it's enamel so it never really "cures".
the clear on the flag plug is 2 part eurathane automotive clearcoat. virtually indestructable.when it's fully cured you could soak the plug in laquer thinner and it wouldn't harm it{provided the thinner couldn't get underneath the the clear to soften up the basecoat.
i have another clear thats so hard, paint stripper won't even touch it. but it's a pain to work with. used for commercial vehicles,trash trucks,heavy equip. etc.

BigFish
03-13-2004, 10:31 PM
FishingFreak....how is that spray enamel to the touch after it drys? Does it dry pretty good or will it mark if you rub it?

The stuff in the spray can?:confused:

thefishingfreak
03-13-2004, 10:34 PM
no it's tough!!!!


if you forcefully jam your thumnail into it ,,,it will leave a mark.
but it dosn't smudge.

with that stuff, i'de want about 5 coats{4 dry coats and one wet one}

the 2 part stuff 2 coats:)

BigFish
03-13-2004, 10:37 PM
Thanks FF...super nice work. Something for me to aspire to.:drool: :btu:

NIB
03-14-2004, 04:24 PM
Freak U must be a tank artist or custom Bike Boat Paintin specialist.the Flag plug Make U the DaVinci of the board.Paints an finishes is the one thing I wish I knew more about.I didn't know enamel dosen't really cure.U go into the paint store an ask questions an all they wanna know is what room are u painting.I am a craftsman An the paint learning curve Is frustratin.I didn't know bout the dry technique.sounds good.I would be interested in the tougher clearcoat.U can PM me if u like.

canyondiver
03-18-2004, 01:30 AM
God Bless America ...
Now that's sweet!!

Flaptail
03-18-2004, 09:07 AM
Please post your stuff on the "some plugs" thingie, they definetly deserve to be there. I am in awe, plain and simple. That flag plug is a "best in show" if I ever saw one. Thank you very much for showing it. You get the Blue Ribbon.:claps: :claps: :claps: :claps: :claps: :claps: :claps:

Bliz
03-18-2004, 01:30 PM
ABSOLUTELY REMARKABLE! :eek:

justplugit
03-18-2004, 07:08 PM
Fishingfreak,
What do you mean by 3 coats of dry spray?
Thanks!:)

thefishingfreak
03-18-2004, 07:57 PM
dry spray, meaning,,,,
back the gun,or spray can up, away from the plug and spray. don't worry about trying to make it shiney.
the colors are used as a "basecoat" and there not meant to be shiney. thats the clear coats job.
basicly instead of porking on a thick coat and waiting for it to flash off. you put on a couple dry coats.that way you never have to worry about getting any runs.

see,,,,,,,"dry",,,
no shine, at all.

justplugit
03-18-2004, 08:11 PM
Gotcha, thanks for the quick answer to keep me learnin?:D

Ya can't fool me though Fishinfreak,i know that plug's gotta be blown glass!:think: :hs: Awesome work! Thank you!

Slipknot
03-18-2004, 08:17 PM
ya, well when you do it it seems to be a fine spray, whenever I have tried that with spray cans, I get large dropplets instead of fine atomization. Maybe your caps are different:confused: or mine suck, or do I not have to worry about lumpyness?

thefishingfreak
03-18-2004, 09:07 PM
don't worry about the lumpyness, the clear will hide it.
and really shake the ba-jesus' out of the can. if it says shake vigorously for two minutes, shake it for four:)

capesams
03-18-2004, 11:19 PM
ever try brushing on that auto clear coat....I'm head towards that. going to give it a shot.

napa auto clear any good? ,,,slow, med or fast cure,,plus flex ?

thefishingfreak
03-18-2004, 11:51 PM
i'll asume napa clear is 2 part?
fast cure for brush on, definitly
no "reducer" nec.
no! flex!!!!!!!! your not painting a flexible rod. or plastic car bumper.

capesams
03-19-2004, 07:31 AM
I would think you'd need a drop or two o flex cause the wood plug will swell an shrink??

yes,,,she's a two part.

working pot life on fast cure....68 dagree's let's say?

thefishingfreak
03-19-2004, 11:40 AM
see if they'll give you the product information sheet for it.
it will tell you pretty much everything as far as pot life, dry time and compatible surfaces.
i would say you shouldn't need flex? i think you guys use some pretty tough wood? the eurathane clear i use has a little flexibility to it.
ppg recomends for plastic bumpers, if there on the car already,no flex is needed. but if you paint them off the car, add flex.
i think its cause of handeling and twisting it might crack.

they have some kind of spray contraption. looks like a glass jar with a hand pump on the bottom? might be worth a try? but then again, you'll need to clean the thing out with thinner.

you'll proibably get good results brushing it on. you might need to spin the thing untill the clear sets up.
heck we use little rollers to apply primer, less mess, no overspray, and no masking.

most of ppg's hardners and reducers end in the temp. range for use i.e.
dt870=70 degrees,dt 880=80 degrees, dch3070=70 degrees etc.....

Bliz
03-19-2004, 11:49 AM
This information is extremely helpful!...

Thanks Mike!

capesams
03-19-2004, 01:16 PM
I tell ya I hate reading...I spin the plugs while putting on the c-coat....wood comes an go's[flexes] that's why I'm thinking a bit of flex wouldn't hurt...to hard a finish an something is going to give[clear coat]. by brushing it on, I hope to do away with having to deal with 5 gals of thinner to clean out the sprayer.Plus the thinner will stink up the house to much.

steelhead
03-21-2004, 05:20 PM
From the looks of it, you're shaping your plugs freehand with tools, sanding blocks, etc. It looks like you have two holes on the belly, nose and from what I can see at the tail. What are you doing for wiring the plug?

Slipknot
03-21-2004, 08:03 PM
steelhead, go to this thread and read it :btu:

http://www.striped-bass.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13007

thefishingfreak
03-21-2004, 09:27 PM
steelhead
that "spray bomb" plug is the very first plug to come out of the mold "the test plug" it was sitting arround, so i figured why not mess arround with some paint?


the flag plug already has the wire and lead inside it