find a wallet that someone left behind at Stop & Shop....By all means DON'T BRING IT TO THE POLICE STATION!!
More to come.....:af: :af: :af: :af:

Rut Ro...

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what happened f-18??? u Have some forgotten about warrants???:eek:

Since when is it illegal to return something to the authorities.
New to me.

What happened?:rolleyes:

Good story, My bro is a Worcester Cop and this guy came into the station yesterday and wanted to put in a complaint on this woman. My bro gets all the guys paperwork and goes to write the complaint. Well he decides to run the guy for the hell of it. It turns out the guy has 3 warrants out for him. So my bro goes over and arrests him. Stupid:smash:

My son has a clean record and does a GOOD DEAD and gets charged with Larceny????????
What is this world coming to?
Any advice?

No freakin way. That is impossible. What happened exactly. Did they give him a summons for court? How old is your son and in what town did this happen? I just asked my brother and father. Both said under those circumstances that is not possible. The only thing they could think of is if someone reported to the police they saw him take it from the store.

Thanks for the advice guys....I think I know what I need to do.

:eek: :smash: WHAT? he finds a wallet, brings it to the police like you're supposed to do thinking it 's the honest thing to do and they arrest him for larceny?:af: :af:

Dave, I would contact the news and have them do some stories on the news about it, THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS!

Make them clear his record completely.

WTF is going on these days?:smash:

I'll probably have to move when I'm done.
Now what do I tell my 2 younger kids?
If you see a guy bleeding on the side of the road to keep walking, or you may get charged with murder????:af: :af:
Doesn't make sence.

Dave, tell us more. Do you know the details? What reason did they give? Did the owner of the wallet accuse him of taking money out of it? Doesn't make any sense is an understatement.

It has nothing to do with me but it pisses me off so much also that I want to call that piolce station and give them a piece of my mind:af:

Ya, sends a good message to your other kids:rolleyes: WTF:smash:

Did Stop and Shop call the police or something?

Those cops need a reality check, something is seriously wrong here.

as others have said- contact the news- they'll eat this up:bl:

The guy called and reported his wallet missing.
He is not even pressing charges, the police are.
The report says $200 missing and some checks.

If the cops can't put 2 and 2 together and figure out that some dishonest person may have found it before your son, and took the $ and checks out first then your son found it, Then what the hell kind of police force are they? Only a moron would turn in a wallet after taking the money:smash: Maybe the cops took the money:eek: ;)

I would still contact the news:af: :af:

what a crock of bull

How can they even think of charging your son with no proof he took the money:confused: :rolleyes: :af:

I cant beleive that crap:af:

i'm sure that the kid thought that he was doing the right thing - turning in the wallet so the guy could could get back his license, credit cards, etc. sounds like cops are morons. do a good deed and get arrested?:smash:

The other thing that p's me off is that they came by my house a few days later to question my son (I wasn't home) and they go rifling thru my papers that were on the table. They were also questioning my daughter who is a minor. Not sure if that's right.

i'd be calling a lawyer and the news- today.

oh boy....good luck with that...that just is not right:af:

If no warrant was served, they can't touch anything in the house... time to Lawyer up.

call a lawyer !
If they came in your house and riffled through anything with out a warrant . which is against the law unless the stolen persons ID or 200 and checks were out in the open when they came by to question your son NOT . As far as questioning a minor with out parental permission is also against the law . sounds like your son is being railroaded . they have any witness that saw him take money and checks out of the wallet before he made it to the police station ?

there is something fishy here .

I would call "Help Me Hank" channel 7 news....they will feast on this and they will put a positive spin on it so your kids will realize what they did was right and what the police and others who were involved did was wrong!:af:

Bad cops giving us "Good" cops a bad name!! Lawyer up!!

It just sucks that you are going to have to spend all that money for a lawyer. Keep us posted and I hope you get out to AZ on time.

I would talk to a lawyer Dave, seems to me like false arrest, and maybe harrasment. I am pretty sure that if they came to see your son at the house, and someone invited them in anything in plain view would be considered a legal search and siezure. I am not a pro so don't go by my word. I would also talk to the guy whose wallet it was, if he is on your side tell him you are calling the news,invite him to the house when the news comes and ask him to speak up fo you.

thats complete bs lawyer up call the news and clear ur son's name asap, dont want things like this hanging over his head

@#$%n' rediculous!:af:

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Sorry let's keep this on the track it is on. If you want start another post. :)

Dave, did you try talking to the Chief?

....he could have dropped it into the nearest mail box.....

sorry! your having a real life nightmare " fishaholic"......

brings back memories..... bad ones... even,,,,,

my local police station calls me ....saying the Dartmouth police station would like to speak to me..... and being an honest person....i think GREAT! -> they found my lost wallet

....(i thought someone had pick- pocketed me at a bar)......

so i head over their and inform them i'm here about my wallet.... and the next thing i know ....they are READING
me my rights.....and now i'm about to be arresrted for multiple burgularies..... B&E's ......and i'm like ....WHAT?!!!
and WTF are you talkin bout willis..... just incredulous....

so then: i'm informed that my car had been seen in several homes driveways that were broken into and neighbors had copied down the license plate...ect.

on and on it went , with -> having to agree to a search of my home or face more severe penalties for any contraband found other than the stolen items of interest..... pfffffffff

i had lived on west island at the time...and remembered always seeing these two SUITS in a VW hatchback sitting near the causeway..... watchin everyone go by....they were detectives workin my case.....

eventually: i started comparing DATA to my schedual and found out that the burglaries occurred on the day i left my vw bug at a front end shop in dartmouth to be fixed and i didnt reclaim it until the next day....

it was the front end mechanics(crooks) access to my vehicle and the keys ..... i shoulda sued the front end shop.

it just demonstrates the madness that goes ON :af:

Originally posted by MAC
Dave, did you try talking to the Chief?
I spoke to the supervisor, no help there.

even though i usually can't stand the sob's......aclu.

Anyone who is a cop or has access to cops should verify what I am saying, but I believe the previous post is correct, once you invite a cop into your house, anything in site is fair game. Do not let cops in the house without a warrant. If they want to speak to you, go outside with them.

and big fish has it right - If you do not call "Help Me Hank" I think you are crazy. they are going to do detailed research for you. Present it in a positive light for your son - and show people it is the right thing to do.

And lawyer up is not an option, IMHO.

And for your kids and all kids. I have found a wallet and dumped it in a mailbox as well. I would suggest that, if anyone finds a wallet, drop it in the closest mailbox. I also wouldn't handle it much. Getting finger prints inside the wallet could be evidence that could be used against you. I would only handle the outside of the wallet.

-IWK

Definitly get a laywer while you can. Call Channel 12 they feast on this kind of stuff. That is just plain dumb. It is definitly harrassment, if they went through your stuff without a warrent..Grab a lawyer as fast as you can. This is definitly wrong.

Sad to say this doesn't even surprise me. One night a couple of years ago I am awakened by a very loud pounding on the front door at 3:30 A.M. I get up to answer and find two cops there. Having come from a law enforcement family, having nothing hide and being appreciative of the job they do I immediately invite them in out of the cold. They ask me if I realize the interior light was on in my car. I responded no, but I probably left it on when I came home that night. One of them asked if I would go check the car to make sure everything was in order and a break-in was not attempted. I complied and went out to check assuming the two of them were behind me. I found everything in order and then realized one of them stayed in the house. No big deal, I and the the officer that went outside with me returned back inside. The officer who stayed behind was no where in sight. I asked officer one where his partner was and he stated "probably looking around". I walked in the living room and found officer two rummaging through an ashtray on the coffee table. At this point I'm feeling that this just isnt right. I asked "what the hell do you think your doing?" Response "just looking around". My response "for what"? answer "Whatever I can find". I then thanked them for their concern and informed them their services were no longer required and please get the hell out of my house now. Thats when officer one requests my name, social security number and date of birth. I see no choice but to comply and give him that information. Not good enough, "Show us ID". I start to go in the bedroom to get my wallet when I'm told to "stop to right there we will go with you". I lost it at this point and said BS you are I'm calling my lawyer and went for the phone. At this point the two of them went outside (presumably running me for warrants). They sat in the driveway for a full half hour with me standing on the front porch glaring at them before they left. The next morning, 9:00 A.M. I'm at the station to speak to the chief who is too busy to see me. I tell my story to the officer at the desk who assures he will inform the chief. Two days go by and I receive a letter form the chief thanking me for my concern and stating his boys were "just doing their job". I know if I heard this story my initial thought would be that this guy must have a history, be a person of interest, etc. etc. Not. I truly beleive this is how these clowns treat everyone and I will never support any policy or law that increases police power in this state.

Anyone who is a cop or has access to cops should verify what I am saying, but I believe the previous post is correct, once you invite a cop into your house, anything in site is fair game. Do not let cops in the house without a warrant. If they want to speak to you, go outside with them.



That's not completely true. Something illegal, like drugs or weapons, would be fair game. They have absolutely NO right to start rifling thru papers unless you consent, or they have a search warrant.

Lawyer here...F-18, don't walk, run to a lawyer.

There is obviously some information that the police have re: the wallet and missing $$. Somebody probably reported seeing a kid pick it up and walk off with it. The suspects probably took the $ and checks and dropped it. Then your son comes along and turns it in. probably the same height, weight and age of the perp. So the cops think they have at the minimum a possible suspect.

As far as the cops in your home, as long as they were let in by someone of age who has a property interest in the home and is able to consent to allowing them in, their presence is ok. Then anything in "plain view" can be inspected for their safety, or obvious contraband. (ie. your wife lets them in to chat about the wallet and they see a pound of pot on the kitchen table....or a knife with blood on the t.v) I would obviously object to them going through personal papers of yours on the table if an issue ever arose there.

You should get a criminal defense attorney, or at least consult with somebody if the police aren't giving you any answers.

Forgive me if my 4th Amendment skills are lacking, I do mostly real estate now.

BTW-we gotta get together for that "swap" soon.

BTW-we gotta get together for that "swap" soon.

I'm ready when you are.

Well, off to court in the morning.
I'll let ya know what happens.

Good luck.

Best of luck Dave...such BS !

What a joke.
Was there till noon just for him to plead not guilty and get another date to go back to court. :af:

sorry to hear that Dave, such BS :rocketem:

Gotta love the US judicial system.

whens the next date for court? this is just bull. :mad:

whens the next date for court? this is just bull. :mad:
When are the next 2 dates you mean.
Next week and the week after.
The f%$#^ system is designed for you to plead guilty to get it over with, I think... :lossinit:

sucks dude hang in there... sounds like a case of guilty until proven innocent... :lossinit:

sucks dude hang in there... sounds like a case of guilty until proven innocent... :lossinit:

Yeah Vic, I think that's how he feels.
It's just too bad, I think he'll think twice about returning some poor guys wallet next time.........Not right.

do you guys have an lawyer yet? this is definitly outta whack.. keep us posted dude.

Im liking the help me hank approach. if you go to them and get some publicity i would bet ya hanful of plugs some lawyer will represent ya for free just to get the publicity and to do the right thing. Im sure that you would win in court without a lawyer but this issue needs to be heard a little bit more than just this website. It sets a nasty precedent for our youth, it is encouraging them to not be honest upstanding members of society. People will just look at the wallet and not touch it till a cop shows up for fear of arrest for doing the right thing, im sure all your kids buddies wouldnt touch a found wallet with a 10 foot pole now.

Call Hank I am tellin' ya! :call:

4 frickin' pretrial hearings later...
The cops showed they're evidence...2 hours of Stop & Shop survelance video of f%$^#!! nothing. Blank frickin' video!!!
This is a joke and a waste of time. The problem is that it cost the PD nothing to do this...It's the taxpayers $$$ wasted and my kid is missing classes. Now he has to go to F$#@&! trial...I'm getting really pissed. If you ever find a wallet, purse or whatever..kick it in the storm drain, I know I will.
I am thinking of telling this story to a certain radio talk show host... I'm ready to move...

call that media guy....the case will be dismissed for lack of evidence and then sue that police department.....and with all the media attention they will be forced to settle out of court.

If there was no evidence than how does it proceed to trial? :smash:
Dave, Raven does have good advice.

Something smells like fish here, Or someone is not telling everything!
VB

I have heard several similar stories lately....just yesterday on the radio, someone found a wallet with 1000 dollars in it and turned it in...owner claimed there was 3000 dollars in it and is pressing charges!!!! :exp: Now I ask you...why would someone only take 2000 of 3000 dollars and return the wallet??? :tm: If I was going to take the money I would have kept it all and said nothing!!! :doh: I will never turn in a wallet again after hearing all of these stories......I have turned in several over the years but no more!!!! Lose it you are out of luck! :hidin:

I will never turn in a wallet again after hearing all of these stories......I have turned in several over the years but no more!!!! Lose it you are out of luck! :hidin:
Same here BF. I will be telling my kids to do the same..Sadly, but WTF!!!

Something smells like fish here, Or someone is not telling everything!
VB
Believe me, this kid would tell me if he took the $$$$
The cop that arrested him is a real jackass, he gave me a hard time when I was asking him about the incedent..I thought he was gonna charge me for asking a question...Wouldn't have suprised me.

next opra............. :btu:

you need media coverage bro
you need an agent

replacing "toga" with

parle' parle' parle' to your 15 minutes of fame... :musc:

That sucks. SO what town was this in ? SO i never driver through there again. Gotta love the legal system, whats this going on 2 months now?