View Full Version : Van Staal surf bags
Pete_G 08-12-2005, 03:50 PM They're back...
Both single row and double row.
Same as the Habs Pencil Poppers, they're not on the web yet so just give the shop a call or stop on by if you have questions or want to get a better look at them.
$109 and $139. Tons of tin and bucktail slots in both bags and plenty of room around the tubes for leader wallets and plastics.
eelman 08-12-2005, 04:14 PM ok, ok So I was somewhat harsh, there well worth the money, buy one today!
I think the #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& is smokin some kinda eel sized spleefage.the B&W is a decent bag but the VS bags are Nicer..Now everyone has the right to voice there opinion.the guy is tryin to make a livin why do u gotta come out an say they are way overpriced.i think he carry's both lines but I'm sure he laid out some good cash for the vanstall line o bags.An lots o people like em he's just lettin us know he has em.He didn't ask what u think.
I think the #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& is smokin some kinda eel sized spleefage.the B&W is a decent bag but the VS bags are Nicer..Now everyone has the right to voice there opinion.the guy is tryin to make a livin why do u gotta come out an say they are way overpriced.i think he carry's both lines but I'm sure he laid out some good cash for the vanstall line o bags.An lots o people like em he's just lettin us know he has em.He didn't ask what u think.
BW bags are junk- plug hooks get stuck under the tube ends, the top flap can come undone in the surf and dump your plugs in the wash...
the aquaskins bags & VS bags are worth it..
a plug bag isnt like an eel bucket :hihi:
Ya what does he know bout plugbags he's eelguy.
The B&W bag has a piece of velcro bout the size of hitlers moosestashe to hold the lid down.
eelman 08-12-2005, 09:16 PM Ya what does he know bout plugbags he's eelguy.
The B&W bag has a piece of velcro bout the size of hitlers moosestashe to hold the lid down.
I baught my bags from the surfcaster years ago and they are still like new. The bw bags are not that bad, but when you need to carry 100 plugs to fish a night I guess nothing will hold up :bl:
Slingah 08-12-2005, 10:15 PM I saw Mac's VS bag and liked it(liked what was in it too :wave: )
are the new ones the same???
Pete_G 08-12-2005, 10:31 PM Heh, I can only guess what I missed as I was out fishing...
The edit function should removed from the board, I love seeing what people say before they think first.
Almost sounds like I was accused of having over priced product? I carry almost every plug bag made in all price ranges except the Surfcaster bags since I can't get them. BW to VS to 'skinz and others in between. Surfcaster bags aren't exactly cheap either, last time I checked. $130 for an overweight surf bag?
The highlight of both the VS and the 'skinz bag is definitely the velcro, I happily pay a premium just for that. I've never lost a plug to the flap popping open on either my VS bag or my 'skinz bag, but I've seen plenty of surfcasters dump hundreds of $$ over the years into the surf thanks to lesser bags. The velcro on these bags also never seems to age and lose it's ability to grip over time either. Just this evening I was stuck in a toilet bowl in my wetsuit, clutching on to a few pices of kelp while getting bashed by waves and trying not to get sucked out to sea. When I eventually dragged myself out all my plugs were safe and sound in my Aquaskinz single row.
The BW bag is what it is, a low priced bag. People love them as long as they aren't too extreme in their surfcasting. It gets the job done as long as you don't ask too much of it.
Surf bags, overall, seem to be a "you get what you pay for" sort of deal.
Pete_G 08-12-2005, 10:36 PM I saw Mac's VS bag and liked it(liked what was in it too :wave: )
are the new ones the same???
It's pretty close; the material is slightly different and there are bucktail pouches both in front of and behind the tubes. You'll never be lacking when it comes to tin or bucktail storage. The tubes might be slightly taller.
There is also more black nylon webbing on both the bottom and the back of the bag. There will be more testing in the coming weeks; most of the bags that came in are already sold to people who pre-ordered them LONG ago, and a couple were nabbed by guys in the shop who will definitely give them a good work out. Time will tell of course, but they look good to me.
bassmaster 08-13-2005, 12:24 AM hey pete post a pic of those surf bags
I got a vs bag its beat to hell but i kill anything no rips in it but i stuff it so bad its like carrying 3 bags :bo:
eelman 08-13-2005, 01:26 AM Heh, I can only guess what I missed as I was out fishing...
The edit function should removed from the board, I love seeing what people say before they think first.
Almost sounds like I was accused of having over priced product? I carry almost every plug bag made in all price ranges except the Surfcaster bags since I can't get them. BW to VS to 'skinz and others in between. Surfcaster bags aren't exactly cheap either, last time I checked. $130 for an overweight surf bag?
The highlight of both the VS and the 'skinz bag is definitely the velcro, I happily pay a premium just for that. I've never lost a plug to the flap popping open on either my VS bag or my 'skinz bag, but I've seen plenty of surfcasters dump hundreds of $$ over the years into the surf thanks to lesser bags. The velcro on these bags also never seems to age and lose it's ability to grip over time either. Just this evening I was stuck in a toilet bowl in my wetsuit, clutching on to a few pices of kelp while getting bashed by waves and trying not to get sucked out to sea. When I eventually dragged myself out all my plugs were safe and sound in my Aquaskinz single row.
The BW bag is what it is, a low priced bag. People love them as long as they aren't too extreme in their surfcasting. It gets the job done as long as you don't ask too much of it.
Surf bags, overall, seem to be a "you get what you pay for" sort of deal.
What I said was I think those VS AND Surcaster bags are way overpriced, you as a retailer have to sell to make a profit and I understand that completley, its not a personall attack, IMO its crazy to spend $150 bucks for velcro, home depot sells the extreme velcro (and trust me this stuff is extreme) for $5.99, you can sew it on any bag you want!! Velcro is velcro its one company and the extreme is the best they make. When I baught my surfcaster bag it was 60 bucks but has went up since then, yes they are a bit heavy, I dont carry 10 plugs with me anyway so I mostly use the belt bag.
I have switched now from shoulder bags to the "fish pond" fanny pack and it doubles as a wading belt, there is more than enough room in it for all the plugs you need and everything else, plus I hate a bag over my shoulder while I am casting. That fanny pack was $85 at fin and feather. Anyway I stand by what I said , there to expensive.........
I bet ur one o them guys that ware the fanny pack around town.....
I bout the B&W bag cause I like the tubes.the velcro was givin me WWII flashbacks so I took the toobs out an cut em on the band saw an put em in my Canyon bag.I always wanted a VS bag but they where hard to come by they where supposedly made from hi tech nylon that would take a beatin.I used to rapp a bungee around the canyon when i got extreme.I have seen bags empty out wit plugs u cannot replace gone forever.then I saw the aquaskin bag an was all over it.I like it. I need a smaller bag i think the single row VS Bag is for me.
Stuff one wit hab pencils an mail it to NJ please.
Pete_G 08-13-2005, 07:33 AM hey pete post a pic of those surf bags
I got a vs bag its beat to hell but i kill anything no rips in it but i stuff it so bad its like carrying 3 bags :bo:
I'll try and take some pics; last time we tried to photograph a plug bag it was tough to get good shots which actually show the build quality. The bags have a date with someone with more photography skills in the next few days though.
basswipe 08-13-2005, 08:16 AM The BW bag is what it is, a low priced bag. People love them as long as they aren't too extreme in their surfcasting. It gets the job done as long as you don't ask too much of it.
Exactly.That's why I like them.They fit MY needs.
I epoxied on a couple extra strips of extreme velcro.The flap coming open is no longer an issue.As far as the hooks getting hung up on the bottom of the tubes I've simply never encountered that problem with my bags.
For the price the BW bags are just fine.
If I spent my time in the surf up to my armpits I'd own a VS or Skinz bag.But since I don't do that type of fishing very often there's no point in owning one.I'd rather take that cash and put it towards plugs,leaders etc.
I'm curious as to why these threads always turn into "these are junk,those are junk" arguments?Pete's just letting folks who are interested know that he has them in stock.
ThrowingTimber 08-13-2005, 08:38 AM few seasons on my 3 tube vw bag. I added a 1.50 clip to it so it wont open.
Got a skinz bag too :bl: Getting the vs bag too :bl:
eelman 08-13-2005, 10:07 AM I bet ur one o them guys that ware the fanny pack around town.....
No I dont wear one around town so get that picture out of your head :smokin:
I have a wading belt with the small surcaster bag on it, all I carry is leader material, hooks and a file, I hardly notice its there and can bounce around the rocks all night with ease.
piemma 08-13-2005, 10:19 AM Just a little history. Back before all this new surfbag stuff came about we would go to the Army/Navy store and buy surplus gas mask bags. Had my wife sew velco on both sides of the flap and used empty shampoo bottles with the top cut off and holes drilled in the buttom. Crude but effective and cheap. Total cost with the velcro was about 5 bucks. I had my last one stolen when I left it hooked to my bumper at Fresh Pond Rock about 10 years ago. I don't think you can get the old canvas bags anymore but they were great. I had 5 or 6 set up for different conditions/places/times of the year.
eelman 08-13-2005, 10:38 AM Just a little history. Back before all this new surfbag stuff came about we would go to the Army/Navy store and buy surplus gas mask bags. Had my wife sew velco on both sides of the flap and used empty shampoo bottles with the top cut off and holes drilled in the buttom. Crude but effective and cheap. Total cost with the velcro was about 5 bucks. I had my last one stolen when I left it hooked to my bumper at Fresh Pond Rock about 10 years ago. I don't think you can get the old canvas bags anymore but they were great. I had 5 or 6 set up for different conditions/places/times of the year.
I loved making my own bags!
I bet ur one o them guys that ware the fanny pack around town.....
:rotf3: :rotf3:
If you see someone wearing one around here, you don't want to ask what is inside it :eek5:
Pete F. 08-13-2005, 12:19 PM You still can get surplus bags, mine is some kind of synthetic material has belt loops and good velcro fasteners. Put drainage grommets in the bottom and made a 8 tube insert with a bottom out of vac tube and plexi. Or I stuff a bag of ice on the bottom and put a plastic bag of eels on top of it. Total cost maybe $20 at most if you had to buy everthing and were'nt good at scrounging.
Crafty Angler 08-13-2005, 12:21 PM This is a new twist - a Van Staal Bag Bashing thread...:smokin:
ThrowingTimber 08-13-2005, 12:38 PM Piemma, prior to my bw bag I had gone the same route. The army navy place across from the breakfast place in gansett carries them. and The army navy surplus place on thayer carries them as well. That bag saw a TON of use. Of all the things the ex could keep that was it, it stunk cuz it was full too.. I cant wait to see the shots of these Vs bags, I just hope the quality is there. :bl:
Chris in Mass 08-13-2005, 03:08 PM If you're a catalog-ho, the 2004 Saltwater Edge Catalog has a picture. It is a little dark though.
Pete_G 08-13-2005, 04:14 PM This is a pic of the new bag, it's just a picture of the outside though.
VS Double Row (http://www.saltwateredge.com/miva/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=PB01&Category_Code=)
ThrowingTimber 08-13-2005, 04:17 PM :uhuh: :thanks: :humpty: LOoks Solid!
Pete
I think your price is upside down.You got a single row for $139 and double for $109.
Having said that ,they look great.Another thing I ;) have to have
Pete_G 08-13-2005, 05:46 PM Thanks for the heads up Zeno! Should be all set now.
I want a VS with a bail - when's that coming out?
gilligan 08-13-2005, 09:33 PM but you guys are nuts payng that money for a "BAG" van stupid now that sounds right. use your head would ya !
I wade out into the water in my 350 dollar wetsuit.prior to casting my 1332 arra wit the 250 VS I grab one of my 35 dollar Habatats out of my 25 dollar bag.I don't think so.
Yes I am Van Stupid.
I have no wife or kids Heck this weekend the girlfriends not even talkin to me. pretty much all I do revovles around striped bass I make my own plugs an fish wit many that are one of a kind fish killers.I don't know how to sew so I spend maybe 60 dollars extra on a bag that will protect my wares.
To each their own.
It's not for me to say what is stupid.
bassmaster 08-13-2005, 11:58 PM Nibula You make awsome plugs we need to trade plugs btw.
Pete thanks for the pic. I got a ton of bags but my VS is my fav for walking the sand
I need new tubes in mine as they are old I should take a pic of it I beat the crap out of it and its over stuffed any way I like the vs bags not for the name but cause I think its a great product
its a good combo that bag and a aqua skin 3 tube belt bag thing
My aqua has torn off though
the VS bag does it have the pouch under the flap still?
Pete_G 08-14-2005, 12:12 PM Still has the pouch. Pretty much the only additions/changes are more tin and bucktail slots, a D ring, and more black webbing on the spots where if you REALLY tried, for years on end, to get the VS bag to fail, you MIGHT be able to which is on the bottom where rocks slowly wear through the fabric and also on the back where sometimes there would eventually be a touch of wear from rubbing on your wader belt. It doesn't have the plier slot anymore though, the pic on our website was given to us back when the bag was a prototype.
There seems to be a little more room around the tubes and the bag is definitely an inch or so taller.
Lastly, the bailed spin reel. I still haven't seen it although a final prototype should be visiting the shop for testing in a few weeks, but I have no idea about actual production reels. The proto has a date with BFT and then some swimming around off Newport, we'll see how it holds up...
Seeing Craig Van Staalmo in the pic is encouraging though; back in the Reel Ventures days he was probably the most important guy over there but everyone always seemed to mention Rick Hersom and the other guy. He's still the driving force behind a lot of the new stuff now, so I'm expecting a great final product.
Chris in Mass 08-19-2005, 07:26 PM Just picked up the large surf bag. Can't play with it until Xmas! :angel: :af: Took some pictures if interested. However, don't want post pics if not sponsor appropriate...?
That new bailed Van Staal supposedly has a manual closure/no snap-back bail like the Saltiga's, which I like much better than the bail-less VS.
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