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BigFish
12-27-2005, 10:08 PM
Looking for spray booth ideas...can anyone recommend any store bought spray booths or post pics of any home made jobs? Thanks for the help!:wavey:

Labrador1
12-27-2005, 10:18 PM
Whoops - Larry, I'll send you a PM

Sudsy
12-28-2005, 01:49 AM
Parts:
1 Rubbermaid "Under the Bed" storage container. I only recommend using Rubbermaid products for any application that might involve drilling or cutting holes. The other brands all seem to have a tendency to split while you're drilling them.

1 section of PVC fence rail, the kind with the 2 baffles inside with 2 end caps.
It only comes in 9' sections but I think the leftover could be cut into pieces for plug storage

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/Sudsy1/spraybooth8.jpg

4" flexible dryer vent hose,
One rubber pipe cap that fits snugly inside the hose
One piece of round sheet metal duct to fit through the wall.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/Sudsy1/spraybooth6.jpg

ignore the holes in the back of the piece of white fence, if I were to build it again they wouldn't be there.

To power the booth I used an old box fan unit out of a furnace.

6 3"x1" strips of sheet metal

HVAC Filter material

Duct tape

Pop Rivets

Silicone Caulk

Small piece of plywood

Foam board insulation


First cut the fence rail to size and attach the end caps with a thin bead of caulk. You want it to be long enough to span the full distance in which you'll be hanging plugs in the Rubbermaid.

Take your strips of sheet metal, drill a hole about 1/3 inch from the end corresponding with the size of the pop rivets. Using a vise or pliers bend the strip into a C shape. This is going to act both as a washer for the pop rivets and as a clip to hold the filter in place. (you'll have to unbend it a little when you're inserting the pop rivets)

Lay a substantial bead of caulk about 1' from the edge of the fence piece and place the Rubbermaid container on top of it. Drill and pop rivet it in place with the strips of metal as shown in the photo

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/Sudsy1/spraybooth1.jpg

You'll notice the 3 screws on the bottom in the rear, they're attaching a piece of old hockey stick that's just the right thickness to hold the container level

Using a 1 1/4" hole saw in your drill, drill a series of holes through the Rubbermaid container and the center section of the fencing.

Cut a rectangular hole as large as possible through the rubber pipe cap and the center section of the fence piece. Attach the rubber pipe cap with 4 pop rivets. You don't need to caulk this as the rubber seals itself.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/Sudsy1/spraybooth2.jpg

Using a drywall circle cutter if you have one, or just a keyhole saw if you don't, cut a hole through the wall that snuggly fits the sheet metal tube. Cut 1" slits in the end of the tube and bend them out to form flanges. From the outside slide the tube through the wall.

I take no responsibility if cutting a hole between the garage and the inside of the house goes against any local fire codes

Slide the flex hose over the rubber pipe cap and the metal tube, it should be very snug. Seal it with duct tape.

Part 2 tomorrow

thefishingfreak
12-28-2005, 02:04 AM
eff that...


spray booths should exaust "all " fumes outside the cave.
not recirculate them in the shop vac.
and then blow them back inside:rtfm:

Tagger
12-28-2005, 05:07 AM
been eyeing these for a while Larry ..
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Paasche-Hobby-Shop-Paint-Spray-Booth_W0QQitemZ8245594634QQcategoryZ28111QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/MEW-JC-Metal-Fabrication-Inc-Hobby-Spray-Paint-Booth_W0QQitemZ8246644685QQcategoryZ28111QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

capesams
12-28-2005, 06:45 AM
Tagger...sudsy has the right idea,,plastic box, but you can use a bathroom ceiling fan that take's 4"flexable dryer hose and run it 20 plus feet to where you need to go without losing any power at the end of the pipe..it has the same fin's in the fan as do the dust collector's..motor is outside of the unit and so it never come's in touch with the paint particles......I use one in my office[playroom] to clear the room of gases/paint/thinner/smoke and old fart smell's...the thing suck's/clear's a room 18x12 in no time.

Striperhound
12-28-2005, 06:52 AM
Larry, I just picked up one off of ebay for short money. The unit I picked up was a Microlux 15'' x 20" standard spray booth. I found these on the web @ micro-mark.com Item # 82427. They list for the high 200 dollar range. I was able to pick one up on ebay with a Iwata BCS Eclipse airbrush and hobby compressor for $250 total. Micromark does have them available just check out ebay as well for deals. I am going to set mine up this weekend and will snap a picture for you.

Sudsy
12-28-2005, 10:56 AM
Double post

Sudsy
12-28-2005, 11:05 AM
Part 2

Out in the garage, cut a piece of plywood larger than the fan unit and cut another hole in the middle to match the metal pipe coming through the wall. Place a bead of caulk around the flanges of the metal tubing and screw the plywood in place being sure to hit the studs. The plywood should be tight against the flanges pinning the pipe in place

Screw the fan unit to the plywood and place a bead of caulk around the edge to seal.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/Sudsy1/spraybooth7.jpg

I used foamboard insulation to cover the fan unit and keep what little heat I have inside my office. Just cut to fit and put it together with duct tape. You can either remove it when the unit's running or cut flaps that you can open up.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/Sudsy1/spraybooth91.jpg

Put a strip of filter material over the holes in the Rubbermaid and bend the metal strips over to hold it in.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/Sudsy1/spraybooth4.jpg

To hold the plugs I used a variation of the epoxy drying system I used in the garage. One side has a slow turning motor with a sewing machine foot pedal to move the plugs as needed

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/Sudsy1/spraybooth92.jpg

The other side has a ball bearing swivel attached to a cup hook using a piece of rod with hooks bent onto each end. The plugs are just daisy chained together using the same hooked rods.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/Sudsy1/spraybooth93.jpg

Both end pieces are held onto the bench by clamps. The entire unit can come apart and be stored inside the Rubbermaid.

Sooner or later I'm going to get my hands on an old computer power supply and fan and will rig this thing to remove all the epoxy fumes as it's curing. The fan unit attached now draws much more air then is required and would suck all the heat out into the garage (which would not be a good thing).

The curing plugs are be protected from dust simply by putting the top on the Rubbermaid container.

THIS IS NOT FIREPROOF - it's only used for spraying water based acrylics.

The fan is 3' from the garage door. During warm weather the garage is left open to vent, in cold weather flexible pipe vents it under the garage door. Another way to do it would be to use a portable assembly that fits in a window. (wouldn't work for me as it would be blowing paint dust right on our tomato garden).

I've been using it for two years now and so far I'm very happy with it.

Sudsy
12-28-2005, 11:58 AM
Here it is in operation. An undercabinet kitchen flourecent light on top of the Rubbermaid gives a great diffused light to work by.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y111/Sudsy1/JapaneseColorPlugs.jpg

numbskull
12-28-2005, 12:45 PM
Looking for spray booth ideas...can anyone recommend any store bought spray booths or post pics of any home made jobs? Thanks for the help!:wavey:

This link is informative http://www.briansmodelcars.com/tutorials/tutorial.asp?TutorialID=23&CurPage=1

although the recommended blowers run @100-120 bucks.

Slipknot
12-28-2005, 01:01 PM
Excellant post Sudsy :btu:

Tagger
12-28-2005, 05:38 PM
Tagger...sudsy has the right idea,,plastic box, but you can use a bathroom ceiling fan that take's 4"flexable dryer hose and run it 20 plus feet to where you need to go without losing any power at the end of the pipe..it has the same fin's in the fan as do the dust collector's..motor is outside of the unit and so it never come's in touch with the paint particles......I use one in my office[playroom] to clear the room of gases/paint/thinner/smoke and old fart smell's...the thing suck's/clear's a room 18x12 in no time.

Once and for all ,,,"Can you use a bathroom cieling fan ?" or a "stove hood fan" .. Thats why I think about just buying a unit all made.. Usually in these discusions somebody chimes in ,,( You'll Blow Yourself Up !!!!) ,,,Explosion proof,, blah blah blah... what the skinny for real.. pretty impressive it sux up your farts though ..:uhuh:

Sudsy
12-28-2005, 07:12 PM
Simple, you spray water based materials they don't go boom - you spray solvent based materials they might go boom.
Boom is bad.

capesams
12-28-2005, 08:54 PM
Tagger.. I confess..I've done everything your told not to do ten fold then some and I'm still here...........lucky? I think not....you'd need such a HIGH volume of fumes or paint in the air with an open flame before you blow...what your spraying out of a can for a few squirks is well dry before it even hits the floor....we're talking basement builder's here not HAB's or Salty or beachmaster etc. who make clouds of dust when spraying gal's of finish in one sitting....the sky isn't falling.

Tagger
12-28-2005, 09:46 PM
thanks .. I like using rattle cans for base coat,, fumes make me dizzy,, I don't mind really but gotta think of the family. Oh and my furnace went out this winter and its only 1 1/2 years old,, had to replace a part .. said something about dust .

justplugit
12-28-2005, 10:02 PM
,,( You'll Blow Yourself Up !!!!) ,,,Explosion proof,, blah blah blah...:

`Ediie, isn't that what you told me when i came up with my lame brained shop vac scheme :huh: :D

Striperhound
12-30-2005, 01:09 PM
Larry, Here is mine I set up last night. Downdraft vented outside with 4 inch dryer hose. Have not sprayed with it yet, this weekend.

Charleston
12-30-2005, 03:47 PM
Simple, you spray water based materials they don't go boom - you spray solvent based materials they might go boom.
Boom is bad.

Now I have to go change my pants!! This is funny:rotfl:

ProfessorM
12-30-2005, 07:37 PM
Here is my spraybooth I finished today. I will only be doing acrylics. Very economical, cheap, and easy to make.

ProfessorM
12-30-2005, 07:39 PM
Few more

ProfessorM
12-30-2005, 07:42 PM
The bathroom fan I used. I put a furnace filter over it.

ProfessorM
12-30-2005, 07:44 PM
The exhaust from the fan to the out of doors. Works Pissa. Hope this helps. Very easy to construct.

Bernzy
12-30-2005, 08:34 PM
Here is my spraybooth I finished today. I will only be doing acrylics. Very economical, cheap, and easy to make.

Nice Paul, That's the ticket!!!!!

Bernzy

justplugit
12-30-2005, 10:40 PM
Awesome Paul.:kewl: Machinist perfect work as usual,:hihi:

Charleston
12-31-2005, 09:52 AM
Wrap that electric wire and plug with plastic wrap (food wrap) before you start painting. Should you need to work on it you can simply remove the plastic wrap and any over spray goes with it.

Canalman
12-31-2005, 11:59 AM
Jeeze... no more multi-colored snots for you guys.... one question, why do you have to vent it outside if the filter is collecting all the paint? Why not just send it down under the bench? No noxious or harmful fumes associated with acrylics seems like a futile extra step :huh: maybe not....

Pete F.
12-31-2005, 12:21 PM
Jeeze... no more multi-colored snots for you guys.... one question, why do you have to vent it outside if the filter is collecting all the paint? Why not just send it down under the bench? No noxious or harmful fumes associated with acrylics seems like a futile extra step :huh: maybe not....
My theory is that you might not want to breath it, It may not be proven bad yet but I don't trust any suspended solids. Besides which if the filter looks like that what do your lungs look like? But they are your lungs...

justplugit
12-31-2005, 12:45 PM
My theory is that you might not want to breath it, It may not be proven bad yet but I don't trust any suspended solids. Besides which if the filter looks like that what do your lungs look like? But they are your lungs...

That agrees with Fishingfreak's posts, saying the body is made up of alot of water, and water bound stuff might not be eliminated as other chemicals are via the liver etc. Better safe than sorry. :)

ProfessorM
12-31-2005, 12:56 PM
Dave my personal reason is I have worked in a machine shop for nearly 30 years and have probably breathed in way too much crap into my lungs. I look at the exhaust fans at work and think holy crap imagine what my lungs look like. I don't need or want any additional pollutants, no matter how safe they say they are. Like Dave above said better safe than sorry. Paul

Charleston
12-31-2005, 02:24 PM
Paul; Good for you! The machine tool trades are one of the most honorable trades out there,
You can work your entire life at it and never know it all. I worked as an apprentice and on into journeyman and loved it! KUDOS to you.

ProfessorM
12-31-2005, 06:14 PM
Yes, I learn something new every day. I just wish it was one of the better paying trades:doh: People don't realize that without machinist's they wouldn't have much as far as modern day things go. You wouldn't belive how many people think they repair cars. Not that there is anything wrong with mechanics. P.

Tagger
12-31-2005, 06:49 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/MEW-JC-Metal-Fabrication-Inc-Hobby-Spray-Paint-Booth_W0QQitemZ8246644685QQcategoryZ28111QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I ordered this one,,,$41.00 s&h,,,ouch,,, I'll let ya's know

Charleston
01-01-2006, 01:06 AM
Tagger! wow! a 350cfm blower in a booth that size. The paint will fly right by the plug :)

Raven
01-01-2006, 09:11 AM
Yes, I learn something new every day. I just wish it was one of the better paying trades:doh: People don't realize that without machinist's they wouldn't have much as far as modern day things go. You wouldn't belive how many people think they repair cars. Not that there is anything wrong with mechanics. P.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c66/ravenob1/breakdown.jpg

ProfessorM
01-01-2006, 11:52 AM
You crack me up. lol

Raven
01-01-2006, 11:57 AM
humour is my favorite food....:hihi:

Charleston
01-04-2006, 10:12 AM
I just finished up my spray booth! I hope all goes well:faga:

gldnbear93
01-04-2006, 05:04 PM
PM,

I was just looking into doing something very similar with a bathroom fan. Instead of a plastic bin, I was going to use a plywood box/booth that put together. Anything to look out for in the construction process?

What is the CFM on that fan (Broan 683?)? Working out pretty well?

Your plug holder is a nice looking tool.

My father in law was a machinist. He retired/was laid off when his company was sold and they took the cost cutting measures to compete with the Chinese labor market. The precision from his work really carries over into everything he does.

ProfessorM
01-06-2006, 11:19 AM
Am I really talking to Jack Nicklaus. I used the plastic tub because it was easier than sawing the wood and then putting it together. The fan works good. It is a 683. I have a short run to the window so that helps and quiet too. I changed the fan over to a 4 inch exhaust too. Made my own adapter out of thin alum. sheet.. Very simple set up. If you screw it up you just go buy another $10 tub and start again. Machinist's are too damn fussy, believe me I know:wave: . Paul

ThrowingTimber
01-06-2006, 11:59 AM
This guys got the right idea

http://www.airbrush.com/how-to-guide.aspx?content=how-to/howtoDetail&id=165


Its not like its ppg you're shooting.

gldnbear93
01-06-2006, 04:00 PM
Thanks PM.

It looks easy enough. The 80 CFM is enough?

No, I'm not Jack, but I am a transplanted CAL Golden Bear.


GO BEARS!!

ProfessorM
01-06-2006, 04:06 PM
The fan seems ok so far. I am only going maybe 4 feet to the window. Maybe a greater distance you would need more power. Something to consider though. Maybe someone else will chime in on the power of their exhaust fan to lengh of exhaust hose. P.

justplugit
01-06-2006, 06:18 PM
I just finished up my spray booth! I hope all goes well:faga:

Bill, can ya post some pics. :huh: Thanks.:)

Charleston
01-06-2006, 11:25 PM
I'll try to get a pic. I may not beble to upload it here?? we'll see!

Charleston
01-07-2006, 02:21 PM
How do you post a pic here?

Raven
01-07-2006, 02:34 PM
How do you post a pic here?

http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/showthread.php?t=22931&highlight=pics+posting

Charleston
01-07-2006, 03:36 PM
I'll give this a go.
I placed the spray booth on a Craftsman tool cabinet. This allows me to move it out of the way when it is not being used.
I put an 80 cfm exhaust fan in the back of a 4" plenum behind the filter. If it does not do the job I will put another fan right beside it.
All my paint and airbrush supplies can be stored in the cabinet.

Charleston
01-07-2006, 03:39 PM
Sorry!
The booth itself has a plexiglass visor across the top of the opening so I can see with no obstructions.

Charleston
01-07-2006, 03:43 PM
BTW; I did not build the booth itself. I traded plugs to a cabinet maker friend here on the boards.
While I am into this I will post a couple pics of my shop! Thanks for looking.

Charleston
01-07-2006, 03:49 PM
The secret to success is to buy the best tools and shop items. Thanks for helping me with the uploading of pictures.

Charleston
01-07-2006, 03:54 PM
The fan seems ok so far. I am only going maybe 4 feet to the window. Maybe a greater distance you would need more power. Something to consider though. Maybe someone else will chime in on the power of their exhaust fan to lengh of exhaust hose. P.


Exhaust fans are meant to pull not push. If the distance increases to where you are not getting a good "pull" move the fan to the outlet and just hook the hose up to the booth!

ProfessorM
01-07-2006, 03:57 PM
Good advise Bill. Booth looks great.