how many owners have had the same problem if any with there reel's
need to know if is just mine !!

happy user.

About 3 years ago I had a problem with a 150. I mailed it back and it was fixed pronto. Customer service was exceptional.

The screw on the handle keeps coming loose during fishing on my 150 but fixed it with loctite. If you consider that a problem.

got 3, no problems at all. did loctite my 150 before any loosening. they really stand up imho.....got slammed into a boulder this am reel first- just another character mark.....my elbow is another story- wish IT was a vs:bl:

The seal on my 200 is shot getting oil on the shaft the reel is still fishable as of now but it does need to be fixed.I'am sure it won't be a problem as I have been very happy with there sevice.the only other problem I have had is I was geting water in my drag at one time sent it in and problem was fixed.I fish my reels hard and feel the vs to be the most reliable reel out there.I don't expect anything I own to be problem free.

I am a very happy VS user

my only problem is that its not a conventional reel :hihi:

i love mine.you can fish them night after night and they dont let you down.

my only problem is that its not a conventional reel :hihi:
coming soon :bl:

coming soon :bl:

Been hearing that for at least five years. We'll see.

Been hearing that for at least five years. We'll see.

I was hearing it when Rob Koelwyn still owned it. :bl:

Maybe the fact that people are actually paying $400 for a Daiwa Saltiga Surf conventional, which probably casts and fishes no better than a $100 Sealine SHA, is piquing Zebco's interest.

A $400-$600 conventional when you can buy a P-series Newell or an Avet for under $200---please :rollem:

Back in Oct 06 my drag clicker broke off and stripped the threads....
a few weeks ago my eel snagged some seaweed and came out with no problem until i realized my reel was reeling backwards so my buddy says hit the lever to lock it, he didnt know VS has no such lever like a Penn, VS says they'll take care of it.....
also broke 2 more drag clickers in 1 week a few weeks ago also...
I still love my VS :)

Why do you want a drag clicker--the only useful purpose it has is to alert other people that you have a fish on. I cut mine off the second I took my VS reels out o the box ;)

Satisfied Owner

Drag clicker? What's that?

Every year when I send mine back they put them back on. I have about a dozen in my parts box.

Absolutely love my VS200. The thing is a work horse.

My 200 never had a problem for 4 years until I sent it in for cleaning and then the next two years it froze solid near the end of each season. My 150 old style had the shaft sleeve wear until it was loose, they fixed that for free. It happened again and they replaced the entire shaft with the titanium (gold) one again for free, no problems since.

I'm with Mike on the drag clicker, took mine off day one. Now everytime I send it in they replace it, I must have six of them in my odd parts box :wiggle:

I agree with the drag clicker and how it attracts others over when they hear it scream. usually fishing in the spots i do fish in I havent seen others out there but there are times when the clicker does come in handy.

bump

No problems yet, this is my second season, vs 200. So far have no complaints. 1000x better then penn 6500 which i had to clean about every 10-14 days! My reel is constantly submerged and abused.

Why do you want a drag clicker--the only useful purpose it has is to alert other people that you have a fish on. I cut mine off the second I took my VS reels out o the box ;)the nice thing w/ the vs is the clicker can be bent out of the way no need to cut it off this way they don't replace it and you can always bend it back in place if you want to .

I have had it for the season so far, so not sure I can really comment on it, but so far it's been flawless ... even slipped on the rocks the weekend (up on a jetty) slammed my backside real hard and the reels as well ... doesn't seem to have impacted it, so I am happy. Heard my headlamp go scuttling down into the abyss though.

the nice thing w/ the vs is the clicker can be bent out of the way no need to cut it off this way they don't replace it and you can always bend it back in place if you want to .


They also don't replace it if you never send it back ;)

I'm :devil: , but at this point, I'm just going to run them into the ground and not replace them when they die. I have no more need for a waterproof reel now that 95% of my fishing is in the Canal. I know there's still oil inside, and at this point I think it'll do more harm than good to open one. As long as the handle turns, I'm good with them. I've received good value for my investment (they were both bought in the $400 days and are 8 and 9 years old, respectively) and at this point, dropping $100 a year for service on the pair is just stupid IMO.

VanZebco, hahahahaha, you are all brainwashed!!!!!!!!!!! It might be built well (except for the fact they are not at all smooth) but it is in no way shape or form on God's green earth what you pay for them. That reel should go 250.00 tops and even then there are alternatives.

As for a VanZebco conventional, I just bought a Tekota yesterday that is as fine as any out there. Stripers are not very good fighters and many many many have been hauled out of Elizabeth Island rocks with $55.00 Shimano Trident 100 and 200s. One of my 100s is 18 years old and except for one ball bearing change and drag washers each year, it's still hauling them. Some people give bass way to much credit. I love them but I except the reality.

not brainwashed.

Its a purpose built tool, if youre dunking it, thats what theyre made for. Theyre purpose is not to be used on open beaches to look like a yuppy in the know, if its all scratched beat to hell submersed, theyre being used right. Theyre not a boat or open beach reel by any stretch of the imagination to me. The casting distance with that spool design is just not there.

Bet if they sent you one free we'd finally hear the end of your ph#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g whining.

The idiot running gibbs now builds display fixtures, no clue on quality. The dude hires temp folks builds enough bodies to fill their orders for a year and then lays everyone off. How gibbs expects ANY type of quality out of that is beyond me.

No issues with vs300b 4th or 5th season:kewl: self service and I treat it like its disposible ;)

When Im not planning on dunking the reel I stay with 7000 abu's and a avets. when I plan on going swimming like Im about to in about an hour I bring the vs.

flap why do you insult people because you dont like VS?

because they wont send him one free :rotflmao:

TT where your wading up to chest level, flaptail's wading level would just about reach his knees. :rotflmao: that is why he doesn't have a need for a VS.

never had a problem with mine

my suggestion about a conventional VS is about having all of the qualities that the spinner has- water proof drag and gears... how hard is it to do this on a conventional reel?? imagine- a conventional reel you can dunk night after night, hose it off and have it work well all season-
Id buy one.

my suggestion about a conventional VS is about having all of the qualities that the spinner has- water proof drag and gears... how hard is it to do this on a conventional reel?? imagine- a conventional reel you can dunk night after night, hose it off and have it work well all season-
Id buy one.


I can't see how you could ever design a waterproof conventional that would cast worth a damn--the spool needs some free play and you can't seal that.

Rinse it, your kidding right? you can't wash the Mojo off :pop: :pop: :pop:

Nonbelievers need not post :wave:

Had five failed VS's in one and a half seasons. Three from water intrusion, (seized bearings) one loose shaft that would rub, (and bind up) against the rotor while fighting a fish and one gear strip while fighting a fish. That is why I now use the bullet proof, totally serviceable, easy accessible seals and bearing, if needed, powerhouse of a reel, ZeeBaas!
All season long and not one glitch despite the fact that it is attached to my walking/wading stick and is always submerged with every step I take.

Had five failed VS's in one and a half seasons. Three from water intrusion, (seized bearings) one loose shaft that would rub, (and bind up) against the rotor while fighting a fish and one gear strip while fighting a fish. That is why I now use the bullet proof, totally serviceable, easy accessible seals and bearing, if needed, powerhouse of a reel, ZeeBaas!
All season long and not one glitch despite the fact that it is attached to my walking/wading stick and is always submerged with every step I take.


Sounds like somebody has an agenda...

Sounds like somebody has an agenda...

It's gotta be some kind of record for wrecking Van Staals, at least. I think he even beat out Toby and cowhunter. ;)

Sounds like somebody has an agenda...

This was between me and my fishing partner, MDM. Got to the point where we had to buy back up reels.
As far as an agenda! It wouldn't surprise me to know how proud you are of that spiffy boat photo your sporting at the bottom of your post.
When it came to buying it, I'm sure you didn't cheap out.
The Van Staal is a great boat reel as far as I'm concerned, but doesn't hold up to constant dunking like a ZeeBaas. I'm just offering my feed back here so buzz off!

I can't see how you could ever design a waterproof conventional that would cast worth a damn--the spool needs some free play and you can't seal that.

the way I envision it, the spool and the shaft are sealed. but the difference is the spool does not spin on the shaft. the shaft fits into a housing on each side plate that is not water tight, but has seals to hold in a lot of grease to protect the bearings- I wouldnt expect it to cast a million yards, but i think distance casting is over rated when your fishing in deep water or skishing.

Another thought is that only the main gears and drag are totally sealed and the spool/shaft are not- so you would still be able to dunk it nightly and the reel would only need a quick break down and minor washing every night to keep it tr#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g all season long. It would be nice if the design made it easy to break down with no tools too... not wing nuts, but knobs you could use with your fingers...

..how long have the zbass been out on the market and how many are out there? vs' have withstood the test of time imo..i submerge mine almost daily and no problems...know a BUNCH of swimmers who swear by vs also. i'm sure if zb's prove to be the bomb i'll someday own one.

i've had a vs250 for 5+ years now and it gets fished hard in the spring and really hard in the fall. i bought a second 250 last year.

my vs250 has never let me down. i have never had a problem with it and i did send mine back each year for the servicing, which i do not mind in the least. my reel is under water the majority of the time i take it out fishing as i wade to my rocks and the rod is used as a cane for balancing myself as i wade out between rocks. how many times have i gone night to night w/o rinsing the reel and fished it again the following night w/o an issue. i used to love my penn z's, but they cannot do that night after night w/o servicing the drags and cleaning the gear case every other week. that alone is worth the money to me and the reason why i bought one in the first place. it's all in what and how you value your time and fishing experiences.

i cannot comment on a zee bass. it seems like it may be a nice alternative, but the model i had in my hands 2 years ago was too small for my taste. i also didnt like the 2 rollers. maybe the new larger model coming out will be a nice option. time will tell. as far as i am concerned, the reel is still new to the market. the diawa saltiga hit the surf w/ high hopes, but i have seen several fail, break, or have some issue. those 3 reels are the only true reels that i have seen that can handle the extremes of serious surf fishing - wetsuitting, skishing, and a pounding surf.

no, you do not need a vs for the boat, but it does serve the purpose just fine. i know of many large sb and school tuna handled by the reels. if you think this is a lot of money for a reel, go check out the high end freshwater baitcasters.

This was between me and my fishing partner, MDM. Got to the point where we had to buy back up reels.
As far as an agenda! It wouldn't surprise me to know how proud you are of that spiffy boat photo your sporting at the bottom of your post.
When it came to buying it, I'm sure you didn't cheap out.
The Van Staal is a great boat reel as far as I'm concerned, but doesn't hold up to constant dunking like a ZeeBaas. I'm just offering my feed back here so buzz off!

Your "feeback" sounds like trashing one brand, and giving an infomercial for another. And your first post made it sound like you killed 5 reels yourself - you didn't mention that you were including someone elses experience in your stats.

As for my boat - Thank you. I am proud of her.

Your "feeback" sounds like trashing one brand, and giving an infomercial for another. And your first post made it sound like you killed 5 reels yourself - you didn't mention that you were including someone elses experience in your stats.

As for my boat - Thank you. I am proud of her.

And am proud to own the toughest SURF reel available period....

Don't forget, this is a poll!
I still own two 150VS's (soon to sell them off) and sold a 200. That's a lot of cash to put out just to have a backup surf reel. The 200 held up great, but I didn't use it as my nightly reel as it is too big and not necessary for big stripers. At best, in the open ocean, the cows will run 100 yds and turn to the left or right before tiring.
I now put all my eggs in one basket after seeing how well built and sealed these ZeeBaas are. I took one apart and put it back together in under 10 min. I posted pics on SOL under "inside the ZeeBaas" if anyone is interested.

And am proud to own the toughest SURF reel available period....

Don't forget, this is a poll!
I still own two 150VS's (soon to sell them off) and sold a 200. That's a lot of cash to put out just to have a backup surf reel. The 200 held up great, but I didn't use it as my nightly reel as it is too big and not necessary for big stripers. At best, in the open ocean, the cows will run 100 yds and turn to the left or right before tiring.
I now put all my eggs in one basket after seeing how well built and sealed these ZeeBaas are. I took one apart and put it back together in under 10 min. I posted pics on SOL under "inside the ZeeBaas" if anyone is interested.

What is your actual affiliation with ZEE-BAAS? I mean come on now do you think we are really all that stupid or do you really just love the reel that much which is really disturbing given what it does as opposed to what it cost as opposed to what your fishing for.

And lastly can you get me a free one?

I could easily go online and say I wrecked 900 van staals. I need proof to believe stuff... hear say and speculation isnt tangible for me :rotflmao:

call me grumpy, non-social or whatever but I believe none of what I read or hear and half of what I see first hand. :D

Casting Zs - You may have had the worst luck with VS of anyone I have ever met. I know guys that have been fishing VS for so long that they have had them now allocated in their wills... I don't think I have met someone that has had as many problems with the VS as you have. Guys who fish really hard and abuse the crap out of reels and catch a lot of fish.

I think the ZB is a great reel (other than too small currently) and time will tell how it holds up. Biggest fish I've landed on mine so far is 24# so we'll still need to see how it stacks up on large fish.

It is hard at times reading your post on the ZeeBaas because you sound like you treat it with higher regard than your children (assuming you have some). You've sworn us up & down that you have no affiliation whatsoever with ZB, or any tackle shop or fishing entitiy, right? So why the hard sell? Why the VS Trash Talk? The ZeeBaas may be better than the Van Staal, time will tell, but we need to see the time - this reel has been on the market for about a year, it will take time....

When people say you sound like you have an agenda, it's because - about ZB - it sounds like you have an agenda... So in the words of John Winger, "Lighten Up Francis" :bl: - at least a little....

Thanks

wow I can't wait for this winter :lurk: :rotflmao:

I love this little private club you guys have here! A few individuals seem to run the roost. DARE NOT CONTRADICT ANY OF US HERE OR ELSE!
WE'LL :hang:EM HIGH!
I don't really see the need to prove myself to any of you. It wouldn't matter any way!
Here's my affiliation with ZeeBaas!

http://www.davidryng.com/flash.htm

I love this little private club you guys have here! A few individuals seem to run the roost. DARE NOT CONTRADICT ANY OF US HERE OR ELSE!

Hehehe, no club, just a bunch of people that see a lot of snake oil salespeople come along. I don't think you are selling snake oil because you repeatedly state you have no fishing interests business-wise. BUT, you do come across as thick about pro ZB (you are now the standard barer :hihi: ) and as anti-VS as Flaptail (the current standard barer :hihi: ). Take an out of body experience for a little bit and look in your threads on how you ballwash for ZeeBaas. There is no question on how you like them and it is understandable, they are sweet reels - for some people. But you come across as a zealot, perhaps more so than even you think. I've been on this board for a while and was on web/BBS for longer and I say this with all sincereness, the tone you take Pro ZB is like that of a fanatical salesman, no soft sell at all.




WE'LL :hang:EM HIGH!
I don't really see the need to prove myself to any of you. It wouldn't matter any way!

That's just it, there is nothing to prove. Show your love for fishing, you r enjoyment. The ZeeBaas will take care of itself. You don't need to prove it's mettle by trashing it's principle competitor. Honestly, it does not do the ZeeBaas much good - as a sales tool - to be so fanatically for ZB and so flamatory against VS...


Here's my affiliation with ZeeBaas!

http://www.davidryng.com/flash.htm

Very nice work remodeling (I don't think remodeling is the right word here), way out of my league for "Home Improvements", but very nice work :btu:

Here's my affiliation with ZeeBaas!

http://www.davidryng.com/flash.htm

since this thread has already gone offcourse...
wow.. its nice to see a craftsman in the house- i love your website- did you do it yourself?? I am just about to re-do mine.. If any of your clients need custom glass pendant lights let me know :D
As for defending yourself, dont let these guys get to you.. they are very proud of their gear and get grumpy when they are told it isnt the best.

I love this little private club you guys have here! A few individuals seem to run the roost. DARE NOT CONTRADICT ANY OF US HERE OR ELSE!
WE'LL :hang:EM HIGH!
I don't really see the need to prove myself to any of you. It wouldn't matter any way!
Here's my affiliation with ZeeBaas!

http://www.davidryng.com/flash.htm

Does this mean I don't get a free one? :(

Hehehe, no club, just a bunch of people that see a lot of snake oil salespeople come along. I don't think you are selling snake oil because you repeatedly state you have no fishing interests business-wise. BUT, you do come across as thick about pro ZB (you are now the standard barer :hihi: ) and as anti-VS as Flaptail (the current standard barer :hihi: ). Take an out of body experience for a little bit and look in your threads on how you ballwash for ZeeBaas. There is no question on how you like them and it is understandable, they are sweet reels - for some people. But you come across as a zealot, perhaps more so than even you think. I've been on this board for a while and was on web/BBS for longer and I say this with all sincereness, the tone you take Pro ZB is like that of a fanatical salesman, no soft sell at all.





That's just it, there is nothing to prove. Show your love for fishing, you r enjoyment. The ZeeBaas will take care of itself. You don't need to prove it's mettle by trashing it's principle competitor. Honestly, it does not do the ZeeBaas much good - as a sales tool - to be so fanatically for ZB and so flamatory against VS...



Very nice work, way out of my league, but very nice work :btu:

Bossman, shouldn't it be standard "bearer" not "barer"? Although baring the hype about VanZebco is accurate in my case and works for me!!!!!

BTW they are still in discussion about what we talked about last week at Plugfest here at work. If something breaks I will let you know, I did mention I had a guy in mind who could possibly fit the bill.

Bossman, shouldn't it be standard "bearer" not "barer"? Although baring the hype about VanZebco is accurate in my case and works for me!!!!! - Yeh, yeh, yeh - well, my editing skills (and spell check apparently) need a little bit of work :hihi:

BTW they are still in discussion about what we talked about last week at Plugfest here at work. If something breaks I will let you know, I did mention I had a guy in mind who could possibly fit the bill.

Uhhh, yep.... Like I said, I would be happy to assist in a part time complimentary role :hee:

flap why do you insult people because you dont like VS?

Good question?? Here's another one - why does he care what others fish??

Where and how I fish - there is no other reel that can handle the conditions. I have a scrap heap of Shimanos. What's left are boat only reels.

This is funny, I think everyone needs to get a life :gorez:

raise the bridge we've got another troll :rotflmao:

were haveing all this fun and #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&'s not in on it

I like to thank the people who voted in the poll this z bass thing if u got issues start a thread and the people who r interested in your crap will enter and reply if the seem fit to. I started this thread to find information and you hijacked it NO ONE CARES ABOUT Z BASS ITS A VS THREAD the best reel in the world as I see it :wid:

ITS A VS THREAD the best reel in the world as I see it :wid:

Curious. A 30% failure rate in a reel you need to send back to be fixed hardly seems to be a great testament to the reel's value. Of course they are sometimes fished in conditions where everything else would have a 100% failure rate, and clearly people who use them like them anyways (which is probably the best testament to a product's value). Still, the poll results seem to suggest there is plenty of room for improvement in the product. Obviously what ZB is trying to do, though building something better AT GREATER COST is not exactly brilliant engineering.

Your right John! It's the craftsman in me. When I do or see something so well done, I want everyone to know that it's was created with a no compromise mentality. Only from a pure love of what someone is doing can produce the quality that is unmatched. I only push products I know are as good as the work I do. As for ZeeBaas, I'm trying to help out one of the last true 100% american built products from a man who really cares about what he offers to us. Hehehe, no club, just a bunch of people that see a lot of snake oil salespeople come along. I don't think you are selling snake oil because you repeatedly state you have no fishing interests business-wise. BUT, you do come across as thick about pro ZB (you are now the standard barer :hihi: ) and as anti-VS as Flaptail (the current standard barer :hihi: ). Take an out of body experience for a little bit and look in your threads on how you ballwash for ZeeBaas. There is no question on how you like them and it is understandable, they are sweet reels - for some people. But you come across as a zealot, perhaps more so than even you think. I've been on this board for a while and was on web/BBS for longer and I say this with all sincereness, the tone you take Pro ZB is like that of a fanatical salesman, no soft sell at all.





That's just it, there is nothing to prove. Show your love for fishing, you r enjoyment. The ZeeBaas will take care of itself. You don't need to prove it's mettle by trashing it's principle competitor. Honestly, it does not do the ZeeBaas much good - as a sales tool - to be so fanatically for ZB and so flamatory against VS...



Very nice work remodeling (I don't think remodeling is the right word here), way out of my league for "Home Improvements", but very nice work :btu:

I've learned you're the glass blower. You should see the four custom light fixtures one of my clients had made. They are between 24- 30" tall and shaped like olives, with different colors. 3.5" openings at the top and bottom. I rigged the wires with woven braided SS. sheath, ( the stuff like a chinese finger traps) and custom built hardware to retain the weight of 20# from twenty five feet above the floor. I'll try to send you some pics if I can find any displaying them. since this thread has already gone offcourse...
wow.. its nice to see a craftsman in the house- i love your website- did you do it yourself?? I am just about to re-do mine.. If any of your clients need custom glass pendant lights let me know :D
As for defending yourself, dont let these guys get to you.. they are very proud of their gear and get grumpy when they are told it isnt the best.

I'd love to see them- heres one of mine....

That is slick NeBe! Beautiful work.

I had 2 van staals fail on me while fishing. One while pencil popping and the other anti reverse bearing gave out w/fish on. They were repaired at no cost and the van staal customer service is top notch. No problems with my 7" vs pliers though. To me I still would not use anything else.

VS pliers are super top notch! I had 2 van staals fail on me while fishing. One while pencil popping and the other anti reverse bearing gave out w/fish on. They were repaired at no cost and the van staal customer service is top notch. No problems with my 7" vs pliers though. To me I still would not use anything else.

Editorial note on the Pol, it does look like there is a tie at this time between:

the same problem more than once with three votes

and

the same problem more than once with three votes

:smash: :jump1: :rotf2: :buds:

Here's my affiliation with ZeeBaas!

http://www.davidryng.com/flash.htm

Exactly what does plugging your biz have to do with fishing?

There are quite few of us here who've been in the trades who don't plug what we do here.Matter of fact many including myself have been at it longer, been doing it harder and simply put are better at it but we ain't promoting it on a fishing site unless we're a sponsor.

To be honest it almost comes across as a slap in the face.Think about how you come across..."screw you,this is what I do.Look at my work."

And before you respond notice in my response I mentioned no fishing reels or an opinion thereof.I simply take offense to the notion that somehow your sh!t don't stink and possibly some of ours does.

I think you guys are over reacting to casting Z's excitement about the z-bass. God forbid that someone might have saved up a chunk of cash to buy the most ultimate reel in the universe only to discover that there might be a better one out there..

Fishing is much like religion and if there is one thing about religion i have learned in my life is that Pushing ones views upon another rarely works out for the best.

Some swear by Penn 704's or 6500's.. some swear by Nautil's.. in the end its what YOU feel comfortable with. Every reel is going to have an issue sooner or later if you repetitively dunk it under salt water.


i own a VS 2oo... I use it sometimes and sometimes I use my Abu's.... they are all just tools in the tool box for me.. not a status symbols, not toys... just well maintained tools for catching fish.

You missed the point! My affiliation with ZeeBaas is no affiliation at all. Just chill Basswipe!
Exactly what does plugging your biz have to do with fishing?

There are quite few of us here who've been in the trades who don't plug what we do here.Matter of fact many including myself have been at it longer, been doing it harder and simply put are better at it but we ain't promoting it on a fishing site unless we're a sponsor.

To be honest it almost comes across as a slap in the face.Think about how you come across..."screw you,this is what I do.Look at my work."

And before you respond notice in my response I mentioned no fishing reels or an opinion thereof.I simply take offense to the notion that somehow your sh!t don't stink and possibly some of ours does.

Had a few problems from hard use and Dan took great care of me. Top notch customer service from him.
David has replaced bearings and seals for me as well.
Still a great reel.

Yeh, I think we are going over as over top on this thread as CZ is GooGaa over the ZB :hihi: (wink wink nudge nudge - lest anyone think this was being overly critical ;) )

Basswipe - no relation to plugging his biz and the ZB... It was a "This is what I do for work" kinda thing....

I think everything breaks if you use it alot. Some things less than others. I'm on my second set of waders this year!
My Pliers have never failed me nor have any of my Lamiglas rods.
It all depends on how hard you use it.

THE SIX I HAVE ARE ALL PRODUCTS OF STRATFORD. TOOK THEM OVER FOR A CHECK UP. NO PROBLEMO.
HAS ANYONE NOTICED AN APPRECIABLE DIFFERENCE IN DURABILITY/QUALITY/ PERFORMANCE, IN THE STRATFORD MFG'D REELS VS. THE OK/ OTHER PLACES WHERE THEY ARE NOW MADE?

BUDDA:thanks:

Had the drag clicker fall off the spool last night. $650+4 years of service+ A BIG WTF! So now if I wanna set the reel down for a few with the drag loose I can't. Still love the reel though.


Whats VS gonna do this winta for me,,,fixit or repair it or nada?

I have been using V. S.'s since the beginning and have had zero problems. Actually, I'm still using my black 200's from the original company and like them the best.

from my understanding is that the Main gear isn't made by VS it's tooled by toro I think he said ? but it's only the 300's with the problem the tolerance was wrong for the reverse leg 20 thousandths had some that were in the 50's mine being one of them, all fixed now I thought they all had something wrong with them:cheers: thanks to all for your input


ps sent it out on Tuesday pm received it back on Fri @900 am

I have had several different problems, several times. But the reels always fished, or at last 99% of the time. I beat the snot out of them all the time and they dont get any respect at all, I dont even wash them off. They are in the water 99 % of the time banging on rocks ,falling with them,use my stcks for walking poles. and other reels would be trash! Might I add they never charged me a cent over the maintenance cost. Not for bearings ,shafts, or bent handles! luv em!