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View Poll Results: problems with there Van Staal
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08-26-2007, 03:26 PM
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woody
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Port St Lucie Fla.
Posts: 1,062
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Van Stall users
how many owners have had the same problem if any with there reel's
need to know if is just mine !!
Last edited by vanstaal; 08-27-2007 at 06:34 AM..
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You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a
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08-26-2007, 03:32 PM
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Night Stalker
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: ............
Posts: 3,605
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happy user.
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08-26-2007, 03:35 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: In the water
Posts: 461
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The screw on the handle keeps coming loose during fishing on my 150 but fixed it with loctite. If you consider that a problem.
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08-26-2007, 03:54 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
Posts: 8,642
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got 3, no problems at all. did loctite my 150 before any loosening. they really stand up imho.....got slammed into a boulder this am reel first- just another character mark.....my elbow is another story- wish IT was a vs  |
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08-26-2007, 04:23 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: New Haven Ct
Posts: 957
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The seal on my 200 is shot getting oil on the shaft the reel is still fishable as of now but it does need to be fixed.I'am sure it won't be a problem as I have been very happy with there sevice.the only other problem I have had is I was geting water in my drag at one time sent it in and problem was fixed.I fish my reels hard and feel the vs to be the most reliable reel out there.I don't expect anything I own to be problem free.
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08-26-2007, 03:33 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Maine
Posts: 4,547
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About 3 years ago I had a problem with a 150. I mailed it back and it was fixed pronto. Customer service was exceptional.
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08-26-2007, 04:48 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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I am a very happy VS user
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey 
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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08-26-2007, 04:51 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,692
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my only problem is that its not a conventional reel  |
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08-26-2007, 05:25 PM
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end of the fence guy
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: tiverton ri
Posts: 749
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i love mine.you can fish them night after night and they dont let you down.
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boat fish dont count
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08-26-2007, 05:39 PM
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woody
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Port St Lucie Fla.
Posts: 1,062
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
my only problem is that its not a conventional reel |
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08-26-2007, 08:09 PM
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stripadan
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: wareham
Posts: 101
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vanstaal
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Been hearing that for at least five years. We'll see. |
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08-26-2007, 08:48 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stripadan
Been hearing that for at least five years. We'll see.
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I was hearing it when Rob Koelwyn still owned it.
Maybe the fact that people are actually paying $400 for a Daiwa Saltiga Surf conventional, which probably casts and fishes no better than a $100 Sealine SHA, is piquing Zebco's interest.
A $400-$600 conventional when you can buy a P-series Newell or an Avet for under $200---please  |
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-26-2007, 09:37 PM
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stuck in a desert :(
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Im a little lost right now
Posts: 243
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Back in Oct 06 my drag clicker broke off and stripped the threads....
a few weeks ago my eel snagged some seaweed and came out with no problem until i realized my reel was reeling backwards so my buddy says hit the lever to lock it, he didnt know VS has no such lever like a Penn, VS says they'll take care of it.....
also broke 2 more drag clickers in 1 week a few weeks ago also...
I still love my VS  |
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08-27-2007, 07:12 PM
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ditch boy
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: the sea
Posts: 664
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never had a problem with mine
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08-31-2007, 08:16 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: milford ct
Posts: 57
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THE SIX I HAVE ARE ALL PRODUCTS OF STRATFORD. TOOK THEM OVER FOR A CHECK UP. NO PROBLEMO.
HAS ANYONE NOTICED AN APPRECIABLE DIFFERENCE IN DURABILITY/QUALITY/ PERFORMANCE, IN THE STRATFORD MFG'D REELS VS. THE OK/ OTHER PLACES WHERE THEY ARE NOW MADE?
BUDDA  |
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08-27-2007, 07:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,692
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my suggestion about a conventional VS is about having all of the qualities that the spinner has- water proof drag and gears... how hard is it to do this on a conventional reel?? imagine- a conventional reel you can dunk night after night, hose it off and have it work well all season-
Id buy one.
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08-27-2007, 07:47 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
my suggestion about a conventional VS is about having all of the qualities that the spinner has- water proof drag and gears... how hard is it to do this on a conventional reel?? imagine- a conventional reel you can dunk night after night, hose it off and have it work well all season-
Id buy one.
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I can't see how you could ever design a waterproof conventional that would cast worth a damn--the spool needs some free play and you can't seal that. |
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-28-2007, 07:52 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,692
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike P
I can't see how you could ever design a waterproof conventional that would cast worth a damn--the spool needs some free play and you can't seal that.
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the way I envision it, the spool and the shaft are sealed. but the difference is the spool does not spin on the shaft. the shaft fits into a housing on each side plate that is not water tight, but has seals to hold in a lot of grease to protect the bearings- I wouldnt expect it to cast a million yards, but i think distance casting is over rated when your fishing in deep water or skishing.
Another thought is that only the main gears and drag are totally sealed and the spool/shaft are not- so you would still be able to dunk it nightly and the reel would only need a quick break down and minor washing every night to keep it tr#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g all season long. It would be nice if the design made it easy to break down with no tools too... not wing nuts, but knobs you could use with your fingers... |
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08-28-2007, 08:36 AM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: R.I.
Posts: 8,642
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..how long have the zbass been out on the market and how many are out there? vs' have withstood the test of time imo..i submerge mine almost daily and no problems...know a BUNCH of swimmers who swear by vs also. i'm sure if zb's prove to be the bomb i'll someday own one.
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08-28-2007, 08:40 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 842
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i've had a vs250 for 5+ years now and it gets fished hard in the spring and really hard in the fall. i bought a second 250 last year.
my vs250 has never let me down. i have never had a problem with it and i did send mine back each year for the servicing, which i do not mind in the least. my reel is under water the majority of the time i take it out fishing as i wade to my rocks and the rod is used as a cane for balancing myself as i wade out between rocks. how many times have i gone night to night w/o rinsing the reel and fished it again the following night w/o an issue. i used to love my penn z's, but they cannot do that night after night w/o servicing the drags and cleaning the gear case every other week. that alone is worth the money to me and the reason why i bought one in the first place. it's all in what and how you value your time and fishing experiences.
i cannot comment on a zee bass. it seems like it may be a nice alternative, but the model i had in my hands 2 years ago was too small for my taste. i also didnt like the 2 rollers. maybe the new larger model coming out will be a nice option. time will tell. as far as i am concerned, the reel is still new to the market. the diawa saltiga hit the surf w/ high hopes, but i have seen several fail, break, or have some issue. those 3 reels are the only true reels that i have seen that can handle the extremes of serious surf fishing - wetsuitting, skishing, and a pounding surf.
no, you do not need a vs for the boat, but it does serve the purpose just fine. i know of many large sb and school tuna handled by the reels. if you think this is a lot of money for a reel, go check out the high end freshwater baitcasters.
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08-27-2007, 07:49 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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08-27-2007, 09:08 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Seacoast NH
Posts: 108
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Had five failed VS's in one and a half seasons. Three from water intrusion, (seized bearings) one loose shaft that would rub, (and bind up) against the rotor while fighting a fish and one gear strip while fighting a fish. That is why I now use the bullet proof, totally serviceable, easy accessible seals and bearing, if needed, powerhouse of a reel, ZeeBaas!
All season long and not one glitch despite the fact that it is attached to my walking/wading stick and is always submerged with every step I take.
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I should be catching Z's, instead spending my nights, catching fish and letting them all go!
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08-27-2007, 09:40 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: 14000 / 44031.5
Posts: 932
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Casting Z's
Had five failed VS's in one and a half seasons. Three from water intrusion, (seized bearings) one loose shaft that would rub, (and bind up) against the rotor while fighting a fish and one gear strip while fighting a fish. That is why I now use the bullet proof, totally serviceable, easy accessible seals and bearing, if needed, powerhouse of a reel, ZeeBaas!
All season long and not one glitch despite the fact that it is attached to my walking/wading stick and is always submerged with every step I take.
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08-28-2007, 07:22 AM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by big jay
Sounds like somebody has an agenda...
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It's gotta be some kind of record for wrecking Van Staals, at least. I think he even beat out Toby and cowhunter.  |
Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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08-28-2007, 07:47 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Seacoast NH
Posts: 108
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Quote:
Originally Posted by big jay
Sounds like somebody has an agenda...
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This was between me and my fishing partner, MDM. Got to the point where we had to buy back up reels.
As far as an agenda! It wouldn't surprise me to know how proud you are of that spiffy boat photo your sporting at the bottom of your post.
When it came to buying it, I'm sure you didn't cheap out.
The Van Staal is a great boat reel as far as I'm concerned, but doesn't hold up to constant dunking like a ZeeBaas. I'm just offering my feed back here so buzz off! |
I should be catching Z's, instead spending my nights, catching fish and letting them all go!
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08-28-2007, 09:15 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: 14000 / 44031.5
Posts: 932
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Casting Z's
This was between me and my fishing partner, MDM. Got to the point where we had to buy back up reels.
As far as an agenda! It wouldn't surprise me to know how proud you are of that spiffy boat photo your sporting at the bottom of your post.
When it came to buying it, I'm sure you didn't cheap out.
The Van Staal is a great boat reel as far as I'm concerned, but doesn't hold up to constant dunking like a ZeeBaas. I'm just offering my feed back here so buzz off!
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Your "feeback" sounds like trashing one brand, and giving an infomercial for another. And your first post made it sound like you killed 5 reels yourself - you didn't mention that you were including someone elses experience in your stats.
As for my boat - Thank you. I am proud of her. |
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08-28-2007, 10:01 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Seacoast NH
Posts: 108
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Quote:
Originally Posted by big jay
Your "feeback" sounds like trashing one brand, and giving an infomercial for another. And your first post made it sound like you killed 5 reels yourself - you didn't mention that you were including someone elses experience in your stats.
As for my boat - Thank you. I am proud of her.
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And am proud to own the toughest SURF reel available period....
Don't forget, this is a poll!
I still own two 150VS's (soon to sell them off) and sold a 200. That's a lot of cash to put out just to have a backup surf reel. The 200 held up great, but I didn't use it as my nightly reel as it is too big and not necessary for big stripers. At best, in the open ocean, the cows will run 100 yds and turn to the left or right before tiring.
I now put all my eggs in one basket after seeing how well built and sealed these ZeeBaas are. I took one apart and put it back together in under 10 min. I posted pics on SOL under "inside the ZeeBaas" if anyone is interested. |
I should be catching Z's, instead spending my nights, catching fish and letting them all go!
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08-28-2007, 11:02 AM
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Permanently Disconnected
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 12,647
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wow I can't wait for this winter   |
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08-30-2007, 08:19 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,692
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I think you guys are over reacting to casting Z's excitement about the z-bass. God forbid that someone might have saved up a chunk of cash to buy the most ultimate reel in the universe only to discover that there might be a better one out there..
Fishing is much like religion and if there is one thing about religion i have learned in my life is that Pushing ones views upon another rarely works out for the best.
Some swear by Penn 704's or 6500's.. some swear by Nautil's.. in the end its what YOU feel comfortable with. Every reel is going to have an issue sooner or later if you repetitively dunk it under salt water.
i own a VS 2oo... I use it sometimes and sometimes I use my Abu's.... they are all just tools in the tool box for me.. not a status symbols, not toys... just well maintained tools for catching fish.
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09-01-2007, 01:58 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 4,716
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Had the drag clicker fall off the spool last night. $650+4 years of service+ A BIG WTF! So now if I wanna set the reel down for a few with the drag loose I can't. Still love the reel though.
Whats VS gonna do this winta for me,,,fixit or repair it or nada?
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