When heading out to fish many anglers refer to a log they have kept for years gone by. Such logs contain categories such as but not limited to; TIDE, WIND ( speed and direction), MOON PHASE, WATER TEMP, and CURRENT. My question is what category do you value the most or is it more just a case of having a spare moment to wet a line?

I have never kept a log but I am constantly monitoring currents as well as wind direction. It never seems to add up to a hill of beans and most of my memorable nights have been the result of a spare moment. The more I think I figure out feeding patterns of a Striped Bass the more I realize I know NOTHING about them. When I think I will hammer fish I don't and when I think it will suck I slam cows.

I do go to certain places depending on tides...and wind, not so much moon....but Ill have to say that since Ive tried to "figure it out" compared to just going "whenever"....it's not as fun or productive. I dont think you can turn back though...can you???

It never seems to add up to a hill of beans and most of my memorable nights have been the result of a spare moment.

Something about last minute trips or even trips where you forget gear or things initially go wrong always seem to have mojo.

Never , Ever bring a camera, it's the kiss of skunk. :hihi:

go when I can and the more often the better I seem to do

I just go when I can, or when a bud calls, and then just pick a spot and hang out until conditions get good. I dont usually try more than three spots.
Oh yeah Prof. M. sometimes I play a little FZ to the eels. It gives them a sense of mission - Baby Snakes.

I value the peace of mind of being free enough to "just go" fishing without being encumbered by a fishing log full of yesterdays. Today is a new day! I don't like to micro manage my fishing....it sucks all the fun out of it! Dave...I always, always have my camera with me!:bl:

The more I think I figure out feeding patterns of a Striped Bass the more I realize I know NOTHING about them.

That pretty much sums it up for me. ;) I do put more credence into a combo of wind/tide/bait more than other factors.

Where do you guys put your camera while surf fishing??? always scared its going to get destroyed

When I have my waders on...in a zip lock bag in the case strapped around my chest and stuck inside my waders at the top.......when I have my wetsuit on.....somewhere close by in a small cooler.

I use to keep a log ,,,watch prevailing winds for weeks ,moon phases all that ,,It doesn't matter I'm going anyway when I can .. I'm on the same page with you .. The more I learn, the less I know ..

I just go hi low light dark day heat cold it doesn't matter.I sometimes think way to hard and then get a headache.

The biggest thing I worry about it wind insomuch as how it will affect getting the boat out. I catch very few fish sitting at the mooring in 30 knt wind. I find I have my best fishing on full moon tides but you never know when a huge cow is going to hit.

i'd say darkness. i go when i can, but try to look ahead at the forecast, moon phase, moon rise and set times, etc. and try to focus my efforts on the darkest nights/times i can get out.

1. Tide
2. Wind
3. Moon

Past experiences , whether logged or not , give you a rough roadmap as to where to go and when. The fish were at this place on October 20 last year doesn't mean they will be there this October 20th. It does mean though that some time around then there is a chance so you know where to keep and eye on and where to focus further attention looking at bait , moons , currents etc.

So learn form the past but don't be a slave to it!

Oh yeah Prof. M. sometimes I play a little FZ to the eels. It gives them a sense of mission - Baby Snakes.

Late at night is when they come out, Baby Snaaaakes

When I think I will hammer fish I don't

You mean like this week? I was looking for a repeat of last fall too, but none to be had.
If I relied on a log I would have missed five weeks of blitzing large fish this fall from labor day through columbus day. Same time last year I did very poorly.
I mean we had it all this week, right? Heavy north wind, moon tides, etc....but it didn't pay off this year.

I do look for favorable tides/wind in the places I frequent, but that's where it ends. You just need to look at the forecast before you head out for a night and make the call then and there.

Tide, then wind and then moon( for me. Most times I try to pick places that have produced in similar conditions. But if my log says...24bass to 28# on a certain day at a certain place, I may re-visit that area, if only to reminisce.

OT: PS...Did someone say Fishing log?...09 is out! Look for it at your favorite shop or online, check it out. You derby winners should have gotten the first ones.

Oh yeah Prof. M. sometimes I play a little FZ to the eels. It gives them a sense of mission - Baby Snakes.

I prefer Frogs with dirty little lips:grins:

Don't be silly. No serious fisherman uses a fishing log.
All you need is a notched stick.
They take it and a big gobb of bait to the nearest body of water, throw the bait in and use the stick to beat off the sub 30lb fish, 'cause the resturants prefer the bigger fish.
The notches are important, though. They keep the stick from slipping when your hands are all covered with slime.

My log turned into a journal about how much fun I've had fishing with my kids this year. I used to track temp, tides, moon etc but now its just about having a good time with friends and family. I won't be around New England long enough to patern tides, temps and dates.....I will however be around long enough to remember how awesome it was to catch fish with my kids.

I fish whenever I get the chance but will make an extra effort to fish it what seem like ideal conditions. I use a log and memory of past trips to try to determine which areas might be productive based on the conditions on any given night. Generally I’m looking first at wind direction, then surf conditions and finally tide. Surf conditions are big for me for #1 safety and #2 where am I going to find white water.

In my area, tide charts are a must. I will fish regardless of the tide, but I will pick my spot based on it as some of my spots produce on the in and some on the out.

1. Tide
2. Wind
3. Moon

1. because it indicates water levels and ALL Spots are Tide Specific on one side or the other of the Change
2. still trying to figure that one out, but i KNOW that it makes a diff for current and bait, and is spot specific related to the spot's "facing direction" and which way she blows or gets blown ~into or outof~
3. because it effects the feeding patterns and #1, the New is most preferrable, and throw some clouds and pissing rain to either the Full or the New and you've got BITE Magic!!! moon rise/set is something that DZ spoke about at the Edge's '08 Show and is getting more of my attention these days,,,,,,,,,,,not much unlike the sunrise/sunset, eh DZ??

when ALL three are in alignment
you BESS be loaded fur bear,,,,,,,,,,,,,,



er, uh, uhhhm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,COW, that is!!
and the FUNNN, for me, is in the hunt, the fight, and the release.

there's STILL time, go get 'em LADS!!
for, in the Winter we shall sleeeeeeep.
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Darkness, wind, tide but I value just being able to go above all the aforementioned.

Since it is never, well almost never, a spur of the moment decision for me to go fishing. I do base it on a couple of factors. The moon, I'd just as soon it was hiding as much as possible. If it is a full moon I would rather the weather be cloudy and rainy than F and C. I have been known to bag it if there is a fullmoon and perfect vacation weather.

I fish when I can but first on the list has to be moving water for me. There are other times where slack is good like sunrise in the canal as it turns east, but for the most part I like moving water, bass are opportunistic and lazy and wait in the current for the food to come to them most of the time.

Can I go with you next time you think it will suck? ;)

Don't be silly. No serious fisherman uses a fishing log.
All you need is a notched stick.
They take it and a big gobb of bait to the nearest body of water, throw the bait in and use the stick to beat off the sub 30lb fish, 'cause the resturants prefer the bigger fish.
The notches are important, though. They keep the stick from slipping when your hands are all covered with slime.

I have heard that some restaurants will even pay $.50 more per lb. for fish over 40# due to the increased yield. If you look hard enough,you may be able to find a market for the schoolies you catch on wood. I may even notch some excess pluggage I have laying around as I have been trying to find a good use for them other than door stops.

Water level or tide. My high tide spots are dried out at low tide. From there, experience or historical perspective.
There are guys out there with "fish sense" who can tell where the fish will be, if you look close, you'd probably find a lateral line on them someplace. I'm not one of those guys. Iron Mike, Stevie, Tony Steztco - they feel the need to go to a certain place at a certain time.
Migration is tougher than residency, but being among the many, I'll take the percentages and fish the fall spots during the fall, under conditions that have produced before, over my hunches - because my hunches are not as good as other people's. There's a maturation process that we go through when we recognize who we are and who we are not.

I have heard that some restaurants will even pay $.50 more per lb. for fish over 40# due to the increased yield. If you look hard enough,you may be able to find a market for the schoolies you catch on wood. I may even notch some excess pluggage I have laying around as I have been trying to find a good use for them other than door stops.

OOOOOOOOOOHHH, I sense an early winter plugs versus eels debate in the making...Its been a while, but I'm feeling pretty sharp.
Numbskull's been dormant too long and he's gotta be ready to blow....:rumble: :laugha:

Night tides coupled with favorable winds and a small if not non existent moon.

I have heard that some restaurants will even pay $.50 more per lb. for fish over 40# due to the increased yield. If you look hard enough,you may be able to find a market for the schoolies you catch on wood. I may even notch some excess pluggage I have laying around as I have been trying to find a good use for them other than door stops.

Schoolies?!!! I wish. All I catch on my plugs these days is sea weed. But if you pm me the name of some of the restaurants your friends deal with, maybe there's a market for that as well. Thanks. :wave:

Schoolies?!!! I wish. All I catch on my plugs these days is sea weed.

Don't feel bad George, us lowly elver slingers aren't faring much better. But hey, I'm snagging a lot of mussels..they have to be worth something too.

I had to resort to poppers this weekend and fish days just to get a bend in my rod.

good to hear the mussel bite has been hot :hee:

Unfortuantely I live too far from the ocean to be picky....I go when I can and cherish every moment. If it happens to be a favorable tide, moon, wind etc than I consider that the icing on the cake!

granted tides,wind, and time mean allot but i think time on the water far out weighs anything else.

Schoolies?!!! I wish. All I catch on my plugs these days is sea weed. But if you pm me the name of some of the restaurants your friends deal with, maybe there's a market for that as well. Thanks. :wave:

Just yesterday I was able to drop off a rack from a nice fish to the local Asian Market. I was rewarded with pad thai, house fried rice,chicken wings and spring rolls. I chased it down with two different Thai beers to boot. On the house,although I was reluctant to accept but the owner said"you feed me,I feed you." There was a time when getting rid of the rack was the biggest hassle in keeping a fish, now I feed the family, the neighbors and then get Thai food to boot.Perhaps they would trade you in kind for your seaweed Georgie. Maybe use it for spring rolls.
Otherwise , as DZ said you would knock on some doors in RI. I would provide you the spots but I have heard you preach on several occasions that you enjoy the hunt more than the reward. I wouldn't try to deny you the fun Georgie.

To me ,, ,, , A VERY CLOSE tie to what matters most in where the fish will be, is where they were the night before, pending the weather variables haven't changed much. A small network of fishing friends goes a L-O-N-G way. Other than that, being FAR from rich, I go when I can, not when everything is PERFECT,,,, whatever that is. :as:

Just yesterday I was able to drop off a rack from a nice fish to the local Asian Market. I was rewarded with pad thai, house fried rice,chicken wings and spring rolls. I chased it down with two different Thai beers to boot. On the house,although I was reluctant to accept but the owner said"you feed me,I feed you." There was a time when getting rid of the rack was the biggest hassle in keeping a fish, now I feed the family, the neighbors and then get Thai food to boot.Perhaps they would trade you in kind for your seaweed Georgie. Maybe use it for spring rolls.
Otherwise , as DZ said you would knock on some doors in RI. I would provide you the spots but I have heard you preach on several occasions that you enjoy the hunt more than the reward. I wouldn't try to deny you the fun Georgie.

:rolleyes:
Watch out, Chris, your hubris is showing.
Bon Apetite ;)

current is all you gotta worry about

After giving up boat fishin 2 seasons ago and finally taking the time to fish locally hard on all tides, winds and moons, I have narrowed this year down to about 12 spots that I have learned and figured out with pretty good results.\. As The Apprentice will tell ya'll, I live and die by the tides and WIND. Where I fish changes each night based upon where the tide is gonna be right for which spot (incomin; out goin) and most importantly, which spot will be fishable with eels that nights particular WIND. The distant 3rd is the moon. If it is bright, I fish my 3 deeeeep water spots. darka and I fish shallow areas. The canal is another story. As Back Beach has taught me the ways of the Eldridge Tide Book, As It is all about how strong \big the tides are. The bigger the faster the current, the better the eelin.
All this and still I figure each night where I am goin, show up, conditions are PERFECT (by fisherman standards) and the fish ain't there...........Lady Luck is the most important factor........

I don't keep a log in the general sense, but I know, from the years of doing this thing we do, that some areas in the Fall will be more productive than say mid season. :)

freedom

from the beach...night,moon tides,wind

well said mike, especially the luck part

After giving up boat fishin 2 seasons ago and finally taking the time to fish locally hard on all tides, winds and moons, I have narrowed this year down to about 12 spots that I have learned and figured out with pretty good results.\. As The Apprentice will tell ya'll, I live and die by the tides and WIND. Where I fish changes each night based upon where the tide is gonna be right for which spot (incomin; out goin) and most importantly, which spot will be fishable with eels that nights particular WIND. The distant 3rd is the moon. If it is bright, I fish my 3 deeeeep water spots. darka and I fish shallow areas. The canal is another story. As Back Beach has taught me the ways of the Eldridge Tide Book, As It is all about how strong \big the tides are. The bigger the faster the current, the better the eelin.
All this and still I figure each night where I am goin, show up, conditions are PERFECT (by fisherman standards) and the fish ain't there...........Lady Luck is the most important factor........