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Alright, first off. I used enough exclamation points that should replace the need for BigFish to use them for a while. Larry, you're aruably the nicest guy on here and definitely one of my favorites but your teenage girly use of the excamation point has you flirting with my ignore list.

What happened here anyway? Nobody asks fishing questions or offers help anymore? For the most part anyway. The only fishing related posts seem to be success stories and that just get ripped apart. Honestly that doesn't really bother me that much because it's the same way on every site but it's further magnified here because there is virtually no other content worth reading especially right now. The only type of stuff that has me coming back is the fact that I have good friends here and it's a good way to check to stay in touch. It's nice to have an extended support network and I was touched by the response to the response to the passing of RR's boxer but if your not an insider already I don't see why you would come back after your first visit to the site. It's too bad. When I started fishing for striped bass I was literally hanging on every post by people like tattoo, bassmaster, tlapinski and others because it was informative and entertaining.

I think we have turned into a bunch of "strangers" as Bloocrab said. At the moment at least I think I'd be better served to not even log in here. I will out of addiction and habit but I know it will probably be a waste of time.

Probably should have put this in the GOF forum.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What the crying / whining ? The slamming everyone left and right? Or increasingly rude behavior?

It is kinda worse than Winter Cabin Fever.

OK, so where do we go from here? Let's hear it folks?

For whatever reason my text didn't wrap and I have to scroll all the way over to read it. I edited my first post which hopefully will help though it carried over to yours John. Sorry to further the aggrevation.

I blame it on Krispy's lack of posts

For whatever reason my text didn't wrap and I have to scroll all the way over to read it. I edited my first post which hopefully will help though it carried over to yours John. Sorry to further the aggrevation.


Hehe. No aggravation. From you anyway :fury: .

This brings up some valid points. This site is about you all. The more WE as a group put in the more WE as a group can take out.

What do WE do to make it better?

relax, its brutal heat, we have passionate people, I actually think its been way to mellow out here. I miss #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, I miss long rants from people, I miss fish pics.
I look at this site as a bar room out with friends, we bust balls, we fight, we argue, and in the end sometimes I learn someting. Some bonds are made , some are broken.

Luds you fool.
You got this thing all f'ed up. I gotta scroll all over the place to read and post this to this thread.

As I was sittin on the can last nite, I came to the same exact conclusion, that there has been so little stuff on here worth readin it disappoints me. I have tried to do the same in our Team S-B striper cup forum to get people involved.

It does feel like the middle of the winter with shack nasties goin on. And I have wondered as well why there are so many people registered for this site, yet it is always the same people that post. Startin to seem Clicky. Some new blood is needed. I remember I lurked on here for a while before I became active, and was even "afraid" to post as I didn't want to be considered an "idiot" The only dumb question is one that is not asked. That's fine, most people are fortunate that they have other things and interests in their lives unlike me that they don't become more involved.

There are forum websites out there for everything, from computers, to guns, to video games, to antique collecting and even other fishing web site forums. The difference with this one is that it is more of a local feel so you are actually within meetin distance of folks.

I do look forward to readin peoples' sucesses and failures on here. Love hearin some of the crazy stories, and do miss the true talk about fishin. Too much bitchin. I actually post little on here as I don't come on here to get in bitch fests with strangers. I read people's posts and take em with a grain of salt.

Not sure what I am truly tryin to say without givin away all my secrets [ike soakin the inside of my eel bucket with eel potion[/COLOR] but I enjoy this site a lot and love catchin.

Great post Luds. Hope I didn't hurt anyone's feelings.
Bring Back #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& and FISH WEEWEE

....now get out and put one on the board.............and bring that slacker Clogston with you............

Nudie forum.
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Lose the Political Forum.......biggest waste of Bandwith on the internet. Bunch of Catty little Biatches that wouldn't budge either way, even with a stick of TNT rectally inserted.

What can we do, hmmm.

There is a inverse correlation between the lack of striped bass and nonsense threads.
The solution will be to get involved in preventing the forage from being decimated from coastal waters. This will entice the bass to move further north up the coast.
Attend the regulatory meetings as mentioned in earlier threads and make yours voices heard or if you have nothing to say then go for support.
Bottom line, Save forage will increase bass and thereby create interesting threads
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What happened here anyway? Nobody asks fishing questions or offers help anymore? For the most part anyway. The only fishing related posts seem to be success stories and that just get ripped apart. Honestly that doesn't really bother me that much because it's the same way on every site but it's further magnified here because there is virtually no other content worth reading especially right now. The only type of stuff that has me coming back is the fact that I have good friends here and it's a good way to check to stay in touch. It's nice to have an extended support network and I was touched by the response to the response to the passing of RR's boxer but if your not an insider already I don't see why you would come back after your first visit to the site. It's too bad. When I started fishing for striped bass I was literally hanging on every post by people like tattoo, bassmaster, tlapinski and others because it was informative and entertaining.

I think we have turned into a bunch of "queers" as Bloocrab said. At the moment at least I think I'd be better served to not even log in here. I will out of addiction and habit but I know it will probably be a waste of time.

Probably should have put this in the GOF forum.
Unfortunately, I agree with a lot of what Mike says here. I've met some awesome people through this site and folks here have been extremely helpful to me. In the past. Seems to me that the last couple years, if you're not an "insider" as luds puts it (which I am obviously not), it's very difficult to get responses, answers to questions, recommendations, or even taken seriously. This is why I essentially stopped posting as much. I still enjoy coming here and reading to fill my time and keep up and what everyone is doing. It just feels like without being an "insider" and short of being a post whore, some don't want to give you the time of day. It doesn't bother me much though.





For the record...................Larry's okay in my book. :uhuh:

Alright, first off. I used enough exclamation points that should replace the need for BigFish to use them for a while. Larry, you're aruably the nicest guy on here and definitely one of my favorites but your teenage girly use of the excamation point has you flirting with my ignore list.

What happened here anyway? Nobody asks fishing questions or offers help anymore? For the most part anyway. The only fishing related posts seem to be success stories and that just get ripped apart. Honestly that doesn't really bother me that much because it's the same way on every site but it's further magnified here because there is virtually no other content worth reading especially right now. The only type of stuff that has me coming back is the fact that I have good friends here and it's a good way to check to stay in touch. It's nice to have an extended support network and I was touched by the response to the response to the passing of RR's boxer but if your not an insider already I don't see why you would come back after your first visit to the site. It's too bad. When I started fishing for striped bass I was literally hanging on every post by people like tattoo, bassmaster, tlapinski and others because it was informative and entertaining.

I think we have turned into a bunch of "strangers" as Bloocrab said. At the moment at least I think I'd be better served to not even log in here. I will out of addiction and habit but I know it will probably be a waste of time.

Probably should have put this in the GOF forum.

Your bothered by my use of punctuation??? Wow!!!! Fishing must be slow!!!! Mike!!! Hit the ignore button if it bothers you!!!! It ain't gonna change!!!!!:rotf2:

relax, its brutal heat, we have passionate people, I actually think its been way to mellow out here. I miss #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, I miss long rants from people, I miss fish pics.
I look at this site as a bar room out with friends, we bust balls, we fight, we argue, and in the end sometimes I learn someting. Some bonds are made , some are broken.

RIJimmy uses too many commas!!! I am finding it intrusive so sorry Jimmy.....off to my ignore list you go!!!!!:jump1::jump1:

That was the reason I donated some pluggage...new members and new perspective.
http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/stripertalk/62961-plug-giveaway-rm-sebile.html

I think I should be voted "Off The Island"!!!! Start a new thread and if people want me off...then so be it!!!!:jump1::jump1::jump1:

I think Luds set this up just so you would have enough space to post a picture of your future personal best......so you can't go anywhere until you have posted a picture of a supa cow.

Gotta go back out to the shop now! Enjoy!

(I feel whooozy.....I only used 2 exclamation points in that post.):rolleyes:

this site is definitely harder to crack than the other.
I joined this one around the sametime as the other one.
This one seems real clicky,
the original poster reached out to me when i went to cutty for the first time with some guys on this site.
Luds was awesome, gave me tons of info on what to bring and what not to bring.
Ask Gilly(my cousin) i was freaking out a few days before the trip, thinking all the guys i was going over there with were gonna think i was a moron,
Gilly assured me to be myself and all would go well.
Nightfighter(Ross) made me feel very welcomed once i got on the ferry, and the Bombas, Ben, Zeno, Eddie, Tburg, dad fisherman were great.
As a matter of fact all the guys on that trip were super, couldn't of been nicer.
Definitely would do it again in a second.
I was/am like Redlite was, i'm timid to post on here, don't want anyone thinking i'm a retard, so i don't post much on here.
i'll check in from time to time, but that's it.
i will say without question, that every single event i've gone too from here has been top notch.
It's tuff to gauge a post on here, it's better in person, face to face.
I don't blame people not responding to certain questions.
It's the internet after all.

I've met a lot of guys on here that i consider friends, some of them really good freinds.
I have yet to meet anyone from here that hasn't been super. And i highly doubt i ever will.

Go away George! We have enough fishermen here!:love:

Quick weekend tourney. Start a thread reply in. Shore or boat, we'll pile up some plugs or something. I'm in and willing to donate to the pile of prize plugs. Southern Maine to napatree. That work?
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HI Larry
best egg in da bunch:smash:

Also maybe bringing in a whipping boy. I suggest rock hillbilly mike.. He can regale us of his success and impress us with pictures of others fish.

I'm guilty of not posting much lately but that's just a reflection in my catching in recent weeks. I'm giving up beer from today until I get in the leaderboard.
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This site Sucks???? Sucks is a pretty strong word, maybe its perspective. Just the other day I learned a swivel trick in the offshore forum that saves time and $$ on florocarbon.

that monster bass was great to see, those who b*tch about the guy keeping it are par for the course, you just have to hone your skimming skills to weed thru the junk, and ignoring a dumb post is the best way to let it die.

My participation in this site has been just above a troll, but Tuna fishing killed this striper fisherman,and I don't have much to add other than fish with live bait, I think you catch more.

The shack nasties are paired up with the heat, or is it the humidity :smash: either way, S-B.com is like the tide it ebbs and flows.

First thing everyone has to realize is this is the week of July 4th and many people are on vacation away from their computers, as they should be. I don't post here as much as I used to because I don't fish as much, too busy with work and my son. I also think that some people have finally realized that posting about success at the canal and other spots only comes back to haunt you. Spots are over crowded and parking spaces have become non-existent. I always liked this site the best because it is usually free of the highschool antics seen on other boards where someone tries to create controversy just for the sake of stirring the pot. I don't know the best way to increase participation from members but it is not by attacking someone for posting a photo of a trophy fish.

Jesus.... Obviously the fishing has been rough for some this year,,,,, Because when the fishing is good threads like this don't exist...

Jesus.... Obviously the fishing has been rough for some this year,,,,, Because when the fishing is good threads like this don't exist...


Sure they do - just not as much :wall: .

I don't think the fishing sucks.......I'm off to my best season ever

It's my fault....
I took Luds out livelining macks on the boat and now he's all screwed up....:grins:
This site has had its ups and downs. Clammer and I were talking about the formative years vs. now just the other day.
Can't bring back the old days.
On the other site, posts bashing Noto for keeping that fish were reported and deleted..... ie. not tolerated
Here, all views are allowed.
That's how it rolls here. JohnR is not a dictator. He wants the site to police itself ie. by the members, for the members.
I wouldn't mind losing the political forum.....
Can someone fix this thread's horizontal spacing?
There are a lot of fish up this way..... bait too!
I need some work... People are holding off on writing deposit checks. Sux.
But it does allow me to fish every morning at 0530...
There's an insider list here???

Hehe. No aggravation. From you anyway :fury: .

This brings up some valid points. This site is about you all. The more WE as a group put in the more WE as a group can take out.

What do WE do to make it better?

Maybe people like bloocrab, instead of calling someone a "@$#%$" for discussing the benefits of releasing breeders, could instead explain why removing some number of breeders won't hurt stocks. In other words, instead of immediately insulting those with whom you disagree, how about telling us why you think they're wrong?

Just my $0.02. I love this site...

Facebook....and deaths...

I don't think facebook has that much of an impact on this site,

I think it has alot to due with personalities, and if people get annoyed by someone they put up with it for a little while and then just stop coming back,

Maybe people like bloocrab, instead of calling someone a "@$#%$" for discussing the benefits of releasing breeders, ..........

Jim, ....I don't interpret ,,, "Looks good......for a dead fish" as "discussing the benefits of releasing breeders".....in my opinion, that was a "strange" remark, which obviously provoked me to reply with my own "strange" remark...however, IMO.. it should not have been posted on that thread. As stated before, he/she should have started their own thread on "discussing the benefits of releasing breeders", instead of negatively adding to an obvious accomplishment to some, perhaps not all though.

In my opinion, the TRUE conservative,,, shouldn't fish at ALL. There is No guarantee that a released fish will survive, no matter how careful you are. Sure, in the middle of the night you held it by the tail, pushing and pulling it back and forth, forcing the water through it's gills, it kicked...you released it and it swam away. You grab your rod and start casting again. This tired 27 pound fish, surfaces again, a little down from where you released it, it's dark, you don't see it...it rolls to it's side in exhaustion, fighting exhaustion along with an oversized swim bladder, it can't manage to roll back over...what happens after that? = Dead Fish/Breeder

Again, IMO...these overly conservative 'members' who quickly hop on people that do keep their legal limit,....play the side of the fence that suits them during that moment. For those that never keep fish and preach about the health of the stock....DON'T GAMBLE ON YOUR ABILITY TO REVIVE. Simply hang up your rod and rest easy knowing that you will never kill a fish. I'm not a "Gamer", but I believe they have video games that will ful-fill their need to feel a tug on the end of their line....???

Jim, I have never kept a fish that I haven't eaten myself, or given to a less fortunate family. I truly enjoy eating fish, but even more, supplying fish to those who don't have the ability to fish...and that includes fish of all flavors. Do I always keep fish, NO....I only keep fish when I KNOW they have a belly to fill. I could see if people kept fish, weighed them in for a tourney, then tossed em' off the dock....now that would PISS me off., but when people keep fish within the law, and put the fish to good use......????...where's the harm in that? So what, cry conservation now?? ooooooooh, you're killing all my breeders???.....:wall:

I know I'm not liked on here, I don't really G-A-F though, we all have opinions, and yeah...opinions are like A$sholes.......and yeah, sometimes they stink more than others. After a while, you get used to the smell. Jim, when you catch a 60, can you take me fishing with you? PLEEEEASE!!! :love:

aye could ALLways go back to

the old novel posting, rant rolling, outrageous PIRATEER

that i was <<<<<ova there!!! i mean if THAT'S waht we neeeed??


just joshin' ya, gents!!! this place is FINE~~~
it's just been a little brutal out there latley with tha heat and the lack
of sizeable landings. this TOO shall pass,,,,,,,,,still my favoritest of places to TalkStripers,
and it will always be. because of the surfnuttz that make us who, and what we ARE, the good and the bad included.

I luv ya Bloo!!:love:

I think I should be voted "Off The Island"!!!! Start a new thread and if people want me off...then so be it!!!!:jump1::jump1::jump1:

Sure, if you can choose which island.:biglaugh:

Or maybe be "bannsihed" TO an island, which you would also choose!:fishin:


This must be what the "dog-days" of summer feel like when you aren't out fishing.
I can't wait to get out anywhere on or near the water.

endeavor to persevere

It's my fault

bloocrab, I also kep the occasional fish, I just really enjoy the taste. Most of the fish I catch (and therefore most of the fish I keep) are barely keepers. I think the impact on fish stocks of keeping vs releasing trophies, is an interesting topic. I'm no expert, and I don't immediately sling mud at those with whom I disagree.

You do seem to take that approach, so I called you on it. For someone who really enjoys to dish it out putrid insults, you seem extremely thin-skinned about receiving some respectful criticism.

Sounds like you seem to think that catching a 60 is the mark of a man? I guess I fall short. My best was 59 poundas, on a 12 pound spinning rig in 4 feet of water. So if that fish was 8 ounces bigger, that makes me a better fisherman? If that fish was 8 ounces bigger, that gives my opinions more credibility?

And no, you can't come fishing with me, I suspect we wouldn't get along...call it a hunch.

I love this place, and havent missed loggin on for a day in many years. Yeah maybe we all could do a bit more posting and what not. If i need some info on something this is the place. I dont see a lot of "use the search" answers to questions. I choose not to post pics of fish for one reason, 99.9% get released and im not gunna burn a spot. That was an early lesson of the internet for me. Im down with the tourney idea, a weekender, pile of plugs to the winner, if the fish is over 40 lbs its kept for the cup, if not photo proof of large gets the pile of wood. We could have a canal leg, M&d's could be the meet up spot, a SOCo leg, Camp cronin as the meet up spot, etc... Another thing that would be kinda cool, if we could get say 10 people, or whatever number if its an even number we draw numbers and ya fish with a partner. Strangers or friends whatever they are your battle buddy for the night. A great way to meet some new folks, see some old faces, catch some fish and BS. Hell even a evening at spot would do the trick. A plug gets ya in. Im down for a beavertail battle.

man it was a battle getting through that first page...:rotf2:

It is easy to not give respect on the Internet...the Internet is it's own weird world...even in the real world a lot of people need some basic lessons on how to treat their fellow man...

treat people how you would like to be treated and respect that someone may have a different opinion than your own...

pretty simple...sometimes hard to do...

geez i don't log in for acouple days and the site is just like a normal disfunctional family at each others throats:smash::wall:

luds, in your honest opinion the site sucks? come on
let it out, tell us what's on ya mind you'll feel better

I don't know about insiders but I think there is a pretty wide diversity of folks who choose to post here.

everybody drink

i miss reading reports and fish porn. with all the talent on this site there's got to be a funny story a week that'd be worth sharing. i've been lazy about reports and pix myself so i'll get on it. it can be done w/o burning up spots. it's still a great site just could use some good energy.

Its all my fault?? Too many exclamation points!!!! Or so I am told!!! :uhuh:

bloocrab, I also kep the occasional fish, I just really enjoy the taste. Most of the fish I catch (and therefore most of the fish I keep) are barely keepers. I think the impact on fish stocks of keeping vs releasing trophies, is an interesting topic. I'm no expert, and I don't immediately sling mud at those with whom I disagree.

You do seem to take that approach, so I called you on it. For someone who really enjoys to dish it out putrid insults, you seem extremely thin-skinned about receiving some respectful criticism.

Sounds like you seem to think that catching a 60 is the mark of a man? I guess I fall short. My best was 59 poundas, on a 12 pound spinning rig in 4 feet of water. So if that fish was 8 ounces bigger, that makes me a better fisherman? If that fish was 8 ounces bigger, that gives my opinions more credibility?

And no, you can't come fishing with me, I suspect we wouldn't get along...call it a hunch.

I'm not exactly sure where in my reply to you, you found me thin-skinned?...I'm not really "thin" anything...I'm also not sure where I replied inappropriately to what you're calling "respective criticism"...???...I'm lost bud, please edu-macate me?

Jim, to me, the "mark of a man" will NEVER be based on his ability to catch fish. If that's how you measure people, kudos to you my friend....That's extremely LOW on my list of giving respect to others. Not sure how you interpreted that ??? Now someone making a snide remark at someone's fish who can't even defend himself...falls quite short of gaining my respect, and can at times,, ignite my spark.

...and Jim, the few people that I do fish with from this site only talk bad about me behind my back, so in my own little perfect world, I'm a good guy. :devil2:

shut up larry and go to the cape.:devil2:

You mean....Shut Up Larry and go to the Cape!!!!!!:devil2:

Gilly, you ARE a good guy

I think everyone on this site is a good person
so I don't know what my opinion is worth :hidin:


ya have to admit, the site is entertaining atleast

:buds: everybody drink

drinkin here boss

drinkin here boss

I wasn't but after reading this thread going for a beer boss.:cheers2:

Where do I put the !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i n this reply?

I'm a serial lurker...log on almost every day now for several years.

I'll try to keep to short sentences due to spacing issue.

One thing about this site is that there are a LOT of very, very good fishermen.

That is particularly true among the most frequent posters.

So, while everyone can always learn, there tends to be more "what I did" than "how to do it".

For me, that's great...I love hearing the fishing stories, reports, etc.

Part of fishing is the characters...there are lots here, and that's what I like.

I do miss the #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& days...combination of entertaining character and great fisherman.

And personally, I love the pics.

I keep less than a fish a year on average, just a personal choice.

But if/when I get my 50, you'll see the pic up here...bank on it.

Or, for that matter, over 40 lbs and the pic probably goes up (boat fish don't count).

In summary, everyone, have a thick skin. And if you don't, it generally makes good reading. :uhuh:

A lot more is right with this site than is wrong...IMHO.

Carry on, and thanks for everyone who throw up the entertaining posts.

Need a pool: When does BigFish hit 20K posts?

Although I must admit, most posters probably don't give a damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will agree on this site being..."clicky"...seems difficult to find people to fish with.....which I would have thought with so many "members" that it wouldn't have been tough at all....I understand people not wanting to give up there honey holes, but I doubt meeting up with a couple guys at the canal for example is giving up your honey hole.....I was on this site for a long time under another name...I got discouraged...and left......came back to give it another chance, with the understanding that I wasnt going to "care" as much if people ignored my posts....or didnt reply to me asking if anyone wanted to go fish a tide here or there....some guys can post anything...and get 300 replies....while others can ask a legit question, get 400 views, and 3 responses....so I understand some peoples views....I am not a sharpie by anymeans, I don't have a fish over 30lbs.....but I fish hard, I am not a moron...and I enjoy fishing.....I fish alone alot, not because I choose to, but because alot of my friends are not into fishing....
Would like nothing more than to hit the surf with someone and maybe learn something, or maybe I could show them something that I do that may help them...I would have thought that would happen more.........Meet you at Beach X.....both new to the area so there is no "spot burning"...lets see if we can catch some fish......I dont see a issue with that....and maybe that happens more than I know...just know it hasnt happened to me...
That being said....I like this site....dont go to any other fishing sites....and will do whatever I can to make it better, or more enjoyable for everyone....

Just gotta network Cableguy and you will hook up with someone! I am always going fishing with new people from S-B! Alot of approachable people on here...it does not happen overnight for sure! Maybe when I get back from my vacation we could get together!! Question though?? Do you mind excessive exclamation??:rotf2:

Best thing to do is to go to a couple of the fishing legs and meet a few of the people then go and fish with someone there, maybe go to a Cuttyhunk trip you'll meet about 15 hard core fishermen, I've been to about 5, the trips alone is a blast never mind the fishing part.

I thought this place was about ho'ing plugs

I've met a bunch of people on here and fished with many of them - Circlehook, OD Mike, PRBuzz and others. Hell, fishbones and I butt heads all the time in that wretched Political Forum, met up a few days ago to buy a cooler off of him and I look forward to getting out and fishing with him sometime.

In all, every single person I've met from this site in person has been a stand up guy. Shoot a private message off to a few people you'd want to fish with - I'd bet most people would be willing to meet up. The canal is a great place for it, because the place is no big secret.

This site is filled with great people and I look forward to getting out with more members on these boards in the future.

personally i think this site is top notch compared to any other out there and that is why i stick here. the wealth of info on this site from guys with some serious time on the water is unreal. the very few i have meet from this site have been real down to earth with a no drama no bitchin lets fish attitude type guys if that make sense. thoes are the type of people i want to fish with.

Hell, fishbones and I butt heads all the time in that wretched Political Forum, met up a few days ago to buy a cooler off of him and I look forward to getting out and fishing with him sometime.

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Dont! He'll just stand there and whine about the cold!
Seriously, once I give up on RI, Im in for a few fall canal trips with you and FB. Im much more charming in person than on the web.

I say we alll meet up and go fishing bar b que and drink once a month!

I agree with luds. The board was to help people find fish, share techniques, and help with tackle. The board has evolved, and the type of help I thought people wanted was where you fished, what you caught, what you used, and how you used it. The goal being making everyone a better fisherman.

It seems that spot burning has become an issue. Details no longer needed, just say the CCB, using jigs or topwaters. I was not in competition with anyone so I had no idea. Other boards have been better about allowing general locations, specific techniques and lures.

Mostly a lurker myself, just trying to soak up any info I can get here. I would love to meet up and fish with some of the guys here, but my schedule really doesn't allow it. Am FINALLY ready to hit the surf this weekend (I hope) and before long, should be at a couple of our favorite spots with chrisjoe13 and ANY LUCK.

I find this site an excellent resource for local knowledge (not talking spot burning), local techniques, as well as all around useful information and insight. When I feel that I can contribute something useful that might benefit others here on the site, I do so.

This site may suck but just wanted to post this picture collage of what I consider fishing is all about: 3 generations of my family (both grandfathers, me, & son) sharing an outing on the water. Best of all catching my PB on the trip. When the rod bent, I "politely" asked who wants it and no one jumped, so I did! Nice 48", 37lb'er. This is now many years ago but memories are still there.

Isn't this what this site should be about?

weather heat wave sucks and along with not catching from the surf it also sucks.need cooler weather and some shore fish then we can all smile.

sucks is a strong word, but i see what you're saying.

there used to be alot of guys (#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&, bassmaster, DZ, crafty angler, steve, to name a few) with tons of experience who were willing to take the time to answer questions in detail based on years of experience. When you got answers and opions from those guys, you knew you were getting something worth thinking about. It was great for guys like Luds and I who came along knowing nothing at a time when there was a ton of great information on here. I know that for me, #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& and bassmaster, via this website, were as influential and helpful to me as anything. And I actually enjoyed coming here to read their opinions and I liked that fact that they were a bit crazy and entertaining - despite the fact that I'm just a clown :hihi:.

i think the issue is that there are fewer of those guys around now, and more guys with alot less experience and know how. They mean well, but when you ask a question and get alot of answers from people who really don't have the experience to be answering the question (I know I've been guilty of this) it muddies the waters and starts to make it so that its not even worth asking.

unfortunately, you can't really go backwards. a site like this probably works better with fewer, more passionate members. as the number of members grows, it kind of gets watered down.

as far as having to be an insider and all that, i really don't see it. i think that most well thought out and presented questions get answered, regardless of who posts them. clicky maybe - but that's life. to expect to just sign up for a website and have people want to meet up with you to fish, chat, hangout, sodomize or whatever is asking alot in my opinion. if you hang out for a while and attend some events, maybe you'll find some people you become friends with.

i still like the site and will continue to visit and try to contribute when I can. it certainly beats the alternatives.

Best thing to do is to go to a couple of the fishing legs and meet a few of the people then go and fish with someone there, maybe go to a Cuttyhunk trip you'll meet about 15 hard core fishermen, I've been to about 5, the trips alone is a blast never mind the fishing part.

In the spirit of disproving the "insider" thoughts... There is a Cutty trip with beds for Oct 8-9. It is Columbus Day weekend. Historically trips are set up, and we have a period where past participants commit on a first come, first serve basis. We have ALWAYS had room so that first timers are included. That said, I'll set August 8 as the date where we'll open up the trip to those that haven't been before. Approx 20 beds, only about five commited at this time. It runs around 340.00 for food, ferry, and room. We bring all our food and drink, all do a share. Also, the Cutty forum is not meant to be exclusive, only to make planning easier for that particular trip, and to keep the search robots out... No deposits for this trip, but if you commit, you are responsible, weather not withstanding. It is a physically demanding island to fish, so be forewarned. Hope this helps. PMs OK, but I won't know numbers until Aug 8. Past participants, you are on the clock....

I'm not exactly sure where in my reply to you, you found me thin-skinned?...I'm not really "thin" anything...I'm also not sure where I replied inappropriately to what you're calling "respective criticism"...???...I'm lost bud, please edu-macate me?

Jim, to me, the "mark of a man" will NEVER be based on his ability to catch fish. If that's how you measure people, kudos to you my friend....That's extremely LOW on my list of giving respect to others. Not sure how you interpreted that ??? Now someone making a snide remark at someone's fish who can't even defend himself...falls quite short of gaining my respect, and can at times,, ignite my spark.

...and Jim, the few people that I do fish with from this site only talk bad about me behind my back, so in my own little perfect world, I'm a good guy. :devil2:

Bloocrab, do you even read your own posts?


"Jim, to me, the "mark of a man" will NEVER be based on his ability to catch fish"

Interesting, because several of your posts ended with a taunt about "if you catch a 60, can I go fishing with you, please", or something like that.

"If that's how you measure people, kudos to you my friend...."

Again, you are the one who kept mentioning whether or not one has caught a 60, not me. Don't put your inane opinions on me, OK?

Bloo, the funny thing is that I think I agree with you on this issue (I keep the occasional fish for the grill). But unlike you, I listen to those who disagree with me to see if I can learn something, I don't immediately insult them.

to expect to just sign up for a website and have people want to meet up with you to fish, chat, hangout, sodomize or whatever is asking alot in my opinion.


Are you saying if I am supposed to meet up with a Guy, with a nickname like The Shocker, InTheHole, or Stiff Tip......on a lonely stretch of beach at 2AM I should be worried.

If I drop my pliers I should kick them all the way back to the truck...:shocked:

QUOTE=tattoobob;779222]Best thing to do is to go to a couple of the fishing legs and meet a few of the people then go and fish with someone there, maybe go to a Cuttyhunk trip you'll meet about 15 hard core fishermen, I've been to about 5, the trips alone is a blast never mind the fishing part.[/QUOTE]

Hands down the best advice you can get on from this thread.....

When I first hit this site I was the consumate Goog....just ask nightfighter :hee:

I went and fished a cape leg at M&D's once awhile back....met a few guys, one of the guys there, who I never met, took me down to the canal to fish. I think most people appreciate the effort of a face to face encounter. your not just looking for the easy answers.

Since then I've been to a couple of other legs, 6 trips to Cutty, 3 Plugfests and a TFCTFN. I have met numerous people that I actually fish w/ now.

another great piece of advice I got off this board was to join a club and get involved. I've met people there that I fish with also, as well as get together w/ in the off season just for drinks and dinner.

Like Clogston said...you can't just expect to pop onto a board and say "Fish with Me" and expect everybody to just bring you along. Get involved, contribute, and make an effort and you'll enjoy the hell out of this place.

I hate politics... especialy when it involves fishing....and IMHO.. that's what this all boils down to.. everyone has an opinion, and they are entitiled to it..

fighting amongst one another solves nothing, if an individual dislikes the fact that an angler keeps a certain sized fish ( or legal limit) maybe their frustration ( for lack of a better term) should be vented at the law makers, not the individual ,that after all is within their legal right, the moral part is up to him (or her) to wrestle with, and if keeping an outsized fish or limit is what they want to do.. it's fine by me.. it wont effect my life, if I dont allow it to ... again it is the law makers that have decided that it is "OK" for this individual to excersice their right to keep a fish..

Normaly, this time of year, I'm too busy fishing to surf the web, I use my coffee and lunch breaks to see what every body else is "up to".... I like everyone I have met here, and to see friendships, weather ciber or physical get strained over beliefs, just doesnt make a whole lot of sense... instead of napping on my break ( I'm getting too old for this 2 hour sleep stuff) I spent the entire break typing this up... so guy's ( and gals) lets not argue over petty stuff, and this stuff IS petty.. fishing season and life itself is just to damned short...


My .02
Roc

P.S.... the site doesnt suck... bickering like school girls sucks...

Are you saying if I am supposed to meet up with a Guy, with a nickname like The Shocker, InTheHole, or Stiff Tip......on a lonely stretch of beach at 2AM I should be worried.

If I drop my pliers I should kick them all the way back to the truck...:shocked:

That depends, how much are the pliers worth? http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/images/smilies/new/scream.gif
:biglaugh:

Are you saying if I am supposed to meet up with a Guy, with a nickname like The Shocker, InTheHole, or Stiff Tip......on a lonely stretch of beach at 2AM I should be worried.

If I drop my pliers I should kick them all the way back to the truck...:shocked:

Holy crap that's funny.

[QUOTE=RIJIMMY;779253. Im much more charming in person than on the web.[/QUOTE]

yup he is:)

I've been out here 7 years. Way, way, way too much time out here. It breaks up the monotony of my day. I've made some good friends out here, I've experienced a TON of kindness from people I dont know. Really unbelievable stuff.
As far as the state of the site or any controversy out here, I think you may be forgetting or not out here long enough. In the past, threads were frequently closed, at least 2 a month. People got way out of line. People were also removed from the site for bad behavior. I havent see anythng like that in awhile. Whens the last time a thread has been closed?
Clogs - I dont agree on the experienced members - I think this place continues to be LOADED with some of the best guys out there. True ledgends. They just dont post about it.

I don't think the site sucks, but it would be nice if someone posted a fishing report once in a while. It seems that no one dares say anything about catching anything because, even if you don't name a spot, everybody knows where you fish so it's still spot burning. It's just really getting old.

For example, the first few responses to my recent thread about the north shore was "there are no fish there" I know some of that is in jest, but it's still kind of annoying. It's like, why the hell are you on here if you aren't willing to exchange experiences and stories? Everybody is just too damn paranoid of being accused of spot burning it's out of control.

The clickiness is was it is, but I've found that if you make an effort, maybe show up to some events or ask questions there are some poeple here that will help you out.

Several years back I used to post recaps of my trips to the cape.

Now rarely do as it seems to be frowned upon as spot burning if you were catching and post it.

yup he is:)

He's shorter than you expect too..
and balder... :love:

LOL, still taller than me but at least I got more hair, although grey, but I'll take hair over height.

still better lookin than both of you!

For example, the first few responses to my recent thread about the north shore was "there are no fish there" I know some of that is in jest, but it's still kind of annoying.

Matt it was just a joke, you and I have joked about that in the past. but seriously there is a lack of good fish up here. it's not like years past when fish were everywhere this year seems like it's right place right time. Sorry

probably, but I'm past my prime. The only thing I am good at now is being grumpy, especially after sitting by myself in a boat last nite for hours and having blufish rip my eels to nutin.

That's all right Paul. Listening to Zappa HAS to count for something.

But all joking aside, the reason I lurk and don't ask a lot of questions is because of some of the responses I've gotten in the past. Not naming names (Hell I can't remember names anyway). I enjoy fishing the surf, and there is a lot to try to figure out and be successful when you are starting out. Read books, observed places at different times/tides etc. and I am still at the noob stage.

Speaking for myself, I don't want specific spots at specific times. While getting skunked time after time is frustrating, I am learning and probably don't even realize it. Just looking for some "Cliff Notes" :biglaugh:

i think there's a new instigator in our midst :uhuh:

Ive been on this site since 2000 and have seen alot of people come and go.... Unfortunately this site had lost a wealth of knowledge from both boat and surfcasters over the years because frankly its not worth it. Those guys are done and wont post ever again... You go back a few years and there was alot more comrodity, guys helped eachother out.... Now its the opposite with alot more people getting into striped bass over the last few years . Most want it easy and its the same old whining, plug fishing is tougher than eel fishing, surfcasting is tougher than boat fishing, coms vs recs, Killing vs Releasing, same old crap to be honest so why bother... This was the last site that I enjoyed, I stopped posting on many of the other sites and some I havent posted in years... Im not to far from stopping here either, all I hear is "Why do you even go on there" from buddies of me...

I don't think the site sucks, but it would be nice if someone posted a fishing report once in a while. It seems that no one dares say anything about catching anything because, even if you don't name a spot, everybody knows where you fish so it's still spot burning. It's just really getting old.

For example, the first few responses to my recent thread about the north shore was "there are no fish there" I know some of that is in jest, but it's still kind of annoying. It's like, why the hell are you on here if you aren't willing to exchange experiences and stories? Everybody is just too damn paranoid of being accused of spot burning it's out of control.

The clickiness is was it is, but I've found that if you make an effort, maybe show up to some events or ask questions there are some poeple here that will help you out.

Shssssssssssssssssh!!!!!!! There are no fish here on the north shore, Cape Ann is dead, fish all gone. The pictures that I post are actually balloons with screened printed pictures of striped bass, the longer the balloon the bigger the fish, and if you want one that looks like you caught a 25 pounder cost $25.00 per balloon.

Just to clarify, I know there are exceptions, people like you Fly Rod are helping!

Bob - no hard feelings at all and it wasn't directed at you. You have always been one fo the great guys around here. I know I've joked like that as well, it's just that we feel like we need to joke like that because of the culture that has developed ya know?

But you are right about the fishing this year IMO

It's THOSE conversastions I'd like to see more of.

I think a lot of it is also just the nature of fisherman, it's all about who'd D&&k is bigger and no one wants to give up their spots, I hear that, but some of it is just taken too far.

Geez, one negative thread because someone kept a fish and now the site sucks????

Since I've been coming here I have been both educated and entertained, which is why I come. Some good times shared with many of the guys here too. I love this site, goddammit.

I never came here looking for the holy grail of striped bass fishing, and thus, have never been disappointed. This site is like many others in that its a social networking site with fishing as the centerpiece. If you come for fishing related stuff only its still great, but there's much more to it than that.

This site is definitely a little more tight knit and friendship based.
With that said even though I'm not apart of it, its still my first choice among the few sites I cruise.

I don't know how it use to be so I can't compare but I still think there's plenty of good stuff flying around here. I rather read five threads with six post of anything fishing, boat, life, plug, tool related then filter through 70 threads and countless post for nothing more then wasted time.

I think fish reports are fine. good or bad. When others aren't on fish it gives you some company in misery and when they are on fish it gives you some motivation and when you are on fish chances are you are not here.

after all its not like we have to subscribe and it pay to use the site.

All this because of a few too many exclamation points???:rotf2:

I like the site too.I might bitch and cause trouble in the eyes of some but I log on quite often.I can't say I have met many fishing partners,nor have I attended any legs for a while but I still look to see what's up.I have met some folks whose company I enjoyTT,Animal,5/0,BB,Piemma,ProffessorM,TO,Slip,Afterhours,Bigfish , etc....
I have also met plenty of folks from the Striper Cup who I'd like to fish with,team affiliation notwithstanding;the entire Linesider team is full of real gentlemen,and they like beer.Even Cowhunter sent me a pm saying if I had any questions about my new motor to just ask. Nice gesture IMO. Guys who I would like to wet a line with someday just from reading their posts, whether they seem funny like TDF or insanely driven to fish like Numby or Cowhunter.Manzi used to be in the same mold too. It is a good mix but does seem stale recently.This site really jumped the shark when #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& left,he won't be back for family reasons but he spoke from the heart and that is difficult to replace.Some of his threads were like watching a trainwreck where you couldn't turn away. Those were the days of censorship here at S-B and I fell victim to the mods as well. Others resented the Ledge,which was in essence an invitation only forum for those in the clique.Very bad move from a bandwidth perspective I would think but as the man with tired feet will remind you;it is his site and if you don't like it, you are welcome to leave or be banned.

Bloocrab, do you even read your own posts?


"Jim, to me, the "mark of a man" will NEVER be based on his ability to catch fish"

Interesting, because several of your posts ended with a taunt about "if you catch a 60, can I go fishing with you, please", or something like that.

"If that's how you measure people, kudos to you my friend...."

Again, you are the one who kept mentioning whether or not one has caught a 60, not me. Don't put your inane opinions on me, OK?

Bloo, the funny thing is that I think I agree with you on this issue (I keep the occasional fish for the grill). But unlike you, I listen to those who disagree with me to see if I can learn something, I don't immediately insult them.

Jim, you'd think with as many times as I typed that, you'd finally figure out that it was a smart a$$ remark. The last person I asked to take me fishing was my father. Since then, I've either been the invitee, or the invitor. I don't need anyone to take me fishing. You're reading too far into nothing. I am a joker, ...and no, sometimes I'm not funny. To sum this up, Sweetwater's remark had nothing to do with me, should I have kept my "insult" to myself?...don't know, don't care...I replied on instinct. :P
..and in regards to respecting other's catches or "the mark of a man" as you poetically put it, let me just say, I don't respect the guy that's out there day in - day out, could have dozens of 50's, and a handful of 60's.....a few 70's and an unbelievable surf caught 100# bass. If he neglects his family, his children, his head of household responsibilities because of his obsession, ....he gets no respect from me. Sorry, that's where my priorities lie.
Fishing is,,, for the most part, still fun for me. Sure at times the challenge I place on myself overcomes the fun, but it doesn't take long before I realize I'm driving outside the lines again.

Jim, I hope you get that 60 this year. I hope you start a thread and direct it at me. I will congratulate you while at the same time, bust your ballz. Sorry...that's me. I think you'd enjoy fishing with me, but hey...that's just me. :jester:

Best site ever.
Of course when your new to any of the forums you hang on everyword, then thru time and experience you may need less info and post less, unless you can help someone else.

I have met none but the best people here, and have made some very close and lasting friendships.

With this heat, the summer doldrums are early.

WTF ;

IT SAYS 5 PAGES /BUT ALL I SEE IS 2/3 A PAGE ???????????


NOTHING TO SAY ..JUST WANTED READ //


COME ON RIJIM .. I,VE TRIED TO HELP :fishin:

All kidding aside.

What I have found over the years is that fishermen or fisherpersons want to become instant fishing experts and they want the big one on their first outing. That is what I do not like. Pay your dues. You are not back in school paying another to do your briefs or taking your test.

Spend a couple of bucks, buy a chart of the area you want to fish, study it. Where I live & fish it is very rocky along the shore, find where the drop offs are that drop to 30-40 feet and come up on to the shoal in about 15 feet of water, sight fish on a calm day in the shallows when you see fish coming in to feed, look where they are coming from if it is possible lock it into your brain and where they are leaving the area, throw a piece or two of chum 3 or 4 feet from the boat, study the fish patent. Then start fishing when you see bigger fish come into the area.

Some days, not all days, even the best get skunked.

Discipline: Fishing along the shore from a boat you need to discipline yourself. Do Not! Do Not! fish any longer then fifteen minutes at any one spot if you are not catching fish. Do not let the devil on your left shoulder tell you to stay they will come if you wait to hell freezes over.

Finally: What works for me may not work for you. Leave the booze at home, keep the cob webs out of your head and pay attention to fishing and what the guy next to you is doing right when you are not.

Dangler, it's the communities site to much of an extent and I don't rule with an iron fist. don't believe in it. But I do need to make some calls that some don't like. Damned if I do, damned if i don't. But I have discovered that no matter what I do it will probably be opposite of what you would want ;)

The people that stoke the most coals tend to complain most about the heat. Still like tipping a beer with you though.

Clammer - had I know you would be there for dinner I'd have changed my plans ;)

:buds:

All kidding aside.

What I have found over the years is that fishermen or fisherpersons want to become instant fishing experts and they want the big one on their first outing. That is what I do not like. Pay your dues. You are not back in school paying another to do your briefs or taking your test.

Spend a couple of bucks, buy a chart of the area you want to fish, study it. Where I live & fish it is very rocky along the shore, find where the drop offs are that drop to 30-40 feet and come up on to the shoal in about 15 feet of water, sight fish on a calm day in the shallows when you see fish coming in to feed, look where they are coming from if it is possible lock it into your brain and where they are leaving the area, throw a piece or two of chum 3 or 4 feet from the boat, study the fish patent. Then start fishing when you see bigger fish come into the area.

Some days, not all days, even the best get skunked.

Discipline: Fishing along the shore from a boat you need to discipline yourself. Do Not! Do Not! fish any longer then fifteen minutes at any one spot if you are not catching fish. Do not let the devil on your left shoulder tell you to stay they will come if you wait to hell freezes over.

Finally: What works for me may not work for you. Leave the booze at home, keep the cob webs out of your head and pay attention to fishing and what the guy next to you is doing right when you are not.


this is an awesome post and so f'n true. I have a friend from work that started getting into the surf game this year, he's been out maybe 10 times and he says "I can't catch a keeper to save my life" oh paleeezzzeeee!

this is an awesome post and so f'n true. I have a friend from work that started getting into the surf game this year, he's been out maybe 10 times and he says "I can't catch a keeper to save my life" oh paleeezzzeeee!

if it wasnt true, guides would go out of business.
do people walk into casinos and say, I really want to win the jackpot but I have to put in tons of time and money to do it? No, they all want to win.
Its been said here a million times, if you go fishing only to catch fish, you wont to stick to it for very long.
With the web, some guys make it look easy so the inexperinced look for a quick answer. Its our obligation to tell them there is no easy answer, not fault them for wanting one.

Geez, one negative thread because someone kept a fish and now the site sucks????

Since I've been coming here I have been both educated and entertained, which is why I come. Some good times shared with many of the guys here too. I love this site, goddammit.

I never came here looking for the holy grail of striped bass fishing, and thus, have never been disappointed. This site is like many others in that its a social networking site with fishing as the centerpiece. If you come for fishing related stuff only its still great, but there's much more to it than that.

couldn't of said it better mike:uhuh: exactly how I feel. Great entertainment value for me, i am a simpleton, also luv the friendships I have developed here and as far as fishing goes I like what I like and most likely at this point no one is changing that with their opinions, but I will still listen.

if you go fishing only to catch fish, you wont to stick to it for very long.
.

good post! and that is just what I said to him! He'll quit and go back to drinking on weekends....

Its cyclical. Its good for long periods and then boom, its goes south fast. Their is nothing wrong here, nada, zip, goose egg. Actually some of the posts were rather funny. Its all good. We could all be living god knows where, but we are here. In America for christ sakes. So the fish are thin. Except on the north shore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!:fishin:

I haven't caught a fish yet this year.Thanks for all the help guys!If I posted reports I'd be scared it would lead a few to suicide due to boredom.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.I suck.The end.

I posted this on the whatever happened to Wild Bill Hickock thread (ChrisL) so I might as well copy it here as its relavent


The whole WMI thing would be hard to repeat.

I thought we got off to a great start here. We would have 100 menbers on the board and 40 would attend the barbecue before the 4 legs.

I think growth is hard but also the way this sight grew was unusual. It started growing as individuals joined and moved from other sites here. Then suddenly its growth was by groups. The MSBA crowd came in mostly all at once , then the CT sirfcasters and their seperate forum , then the wave of "Pros" and all the associated issues.

Its hard when the original group suddenly doubles with the influx of people who know eachother but not the existing core. If this happens 3 or 4 times , soon its like 4 or 5 seperate groups rather than the tightly knit initial group. It went from really knowing people to knowing about people as the rapid growth spirts in groups just became too hard to keep track of everybody.

Now I'm not being negative here. just recounting how I see things went that changed the nature of the original site and members to what we have now.

I don't think there's any way to redo things or rpeat history. I do think the key to moving back to the direction where we started would be to have more live events. No way the good relationships can get tight by just internet contact. Its a great way to break the ice and exchange info etc but to build a tight group of friends like in the beginning there needs to be face to face in person interactions.

couldn't of said it better mike:uhuh: exactly how I feel. Great entertainment value for me, i am a simpleton, also luv the friendships I have developed here and as far as fishing goes I like what I like and most likely at this point no one is changing that with their opinions, but I will still listen.
I am going to need a thorough list of what you like so I can work my opinion on it :devil2:
Not posted from an iPhone/Mobile device cause I aint got one

I don't think there's any way to redo things or rpeat history. I do think the key to moving back to the direction where we started would be to have more live events. No way the good relationships can get tight by just internet contact. Its a great way to break the ice and exchange info etc but to build a tight group of friends like in the beginning there needs to be face to face in person interactions.

BRING BACK HOOTERS NIGHT:devil2::devil2::devil2:

Fly fishing for stripers is another thing.

I am the worlds worst fly fisherman. Gone around the country and Canda fly fishing. And am the worst fly tyer you will ever meet. They had a fly tyer swap here one year and probably still do and I presented a fly and I would bet that no one would think of using it. The bottom line is that I would catch fish. Charteuse is the key to catching stripers. I do the opposit of what the pros tell ya to do, I slap the water, poor presentation and I use only a Orvis depth charge full sinking line regardless if I'm in 3 feet of water or 40 feet of water. And where do you get most of your strikes? if you pay attention to where your line is most of your strikes come in the white water crashing on the rocks. So why do shore fisherpersons try to cast to the open ocean. You should cast diagnally to the shore.

BRING BACK HOOTERS NIGHT:devil2::devil2::devil2:

Where the heck you been fishmonger???

;)Fly fishing for stripers is another thing.

I am the worlds worst fly fisherman. Gone around the country and Canda fly fishing. And am the worst fly tyer you will ever meet. They had a fly tyer swap here one year and probably still do and I presented a fly and I would bet that no one would think of using it. The bottom line is that I would catch fish. Charteuse is the key to catching stripers. I do the opposit of what the pros tell ya to do, I slap the water, poor presentation and I use only a Orvis depth charge full sinking line regardless if I'm in 3 feet of water or 40 feet of water. And where do you get most of your strikes? if you pay attention to where your line is most of your strikes come in the white water crashing on the rocks. So why do shore fisherpersons try to cast to the open ocean. You should cast diagnally to the shore.

Technique burner















;):jester:

Its cyclical. Its good for long periods and then boom, its goes south fast. Their is nothing wrong here, nada, zip, goose egg. Actually some of the posts were rather funny. Its all good. We could all be living god knows where, but we are here. In America for christ sakes. So the fish are thin. Except on the north shore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!:fishin:

most excellent post Swimmer

reminds me of one of the herbs the three wise men brought.

Adam, I am no angling expert, but I have had a great May and June from shore, maybe my best ever, including many day hits. One sunset 2 weeks ago, while I was in class, my brother scored 13 Stripers in less than 2 hours from shore. That is great fishing! Seen 'em hauled in from shore from the South Coast, all over the bay, and even up in the marshes of the most northern estuaries from the Bay. Try fishing with different people. I met an old friend from high-school and he showed me a freshwater lure that was slaying stripers from shore. Pay attention to what bait is in the water and grab a lure that resembles it. Funny thing is, everyone I have seen and know, who have used live eels or clams from shore, have been skunked. Know your white-water, tides, colors, action, and use both topwater and submersibles. Two nights ago, they were feeding and flopping all around me and I only caught one, but the excitement and challenge of enticing those bad-boys is almost as big a rush as hauling in "the big one."

I haven't caught a fish yet this year.Thanks for all the help guys!If I posted reports I'd be scared it would lead a few to suicide due to boredom.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.Went out fishing caught nothing.I suck.The end.

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Also maybe bringing in a whipping boy. I suggest rock hillbilly mike.. He can regale us of his success and impress us with pictures of others fish.

I'm guilty of not posting much lately but that's just a reflection in my catching in recent weeks. I'm giving up beer from today until I get in the leaderboard.
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Yo vic.... I don't think your funny!
this is why this site is what it is...you guy have no class!
there are some talented guys here like yourself vic....

I feel better now. It was good to see some confirming my feelings but even better to read all the positive comments about this place. Nice reminder of why it's a good place to be. Maybe it's not so sucky after all. :) Got sick of fishing alone because my buds have other commitments. PM'd TDF and BassDawg and we went out together last night. Wouldn't have had that opportunity if this place didn't exist either.

I still hate those f:fury::fury::fury:ing exclamation points though!!!!!!!!!! While I'm at it Larry should also use the edit button once and a while rather posting 3-4 times in a row without a response from anyone. :uhuh: Can I just have edit rights for BigFish?

I feel better now. It was good to see some confirming my feelings but even better to read all the positive comments about this place. Nice reminder of why it's a good place to be. Maybe it's not so sucky after all. :) Got sick of fishing alone because my buds have other commitments. PM'd TDF and BassDawg and we went out together last night. Wouldn't have had that opportunity if this place didn't exist either.

and a good time was had by ALL!

thanks for including me luds and TDF, hope to do it agin
sooner rather than later. only next time we go LAHHHHHGE!!
and i doan mean lge weed ballllz ~~big enuff to pull drag~~
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Some of my best friends and closest fishing buddies have come via this site. Every site gos through its ups and downs. The ups have far outweighed the downs here.

I'm not wearing any pants.

YouTube - Police Brutality: Can't We Get Along? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29jDI9flryU)

Mike if you don't like it....don't let the ignore button hit you in the ass!!!!!:rotf2:

LOL

I've always enjoyed this site (even when I was banned). I really don't think it's helped me catch any more or bigger fish. I think its funny when all the "experts" get there panties in a bunch about spot burning, technique, keeping and showing fish..It's a fishing web site, wtf do you expect ? pictures of your old grandma's tea party ?:smash:

This site is great! Like reading the paper for me:uhuh:

Sorry I haven't been here to stir things up. Went back to work and have been real busy with travel to the "left Coast" and meetings. I' ll try to be more diligent in pissing everyone off.

Years ago Sea Dangles and I use to fight all the time. Now that Chris and I are friends we don't fight so much :chased:
And finally #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& isn't coming back. He's very happy on the "other" site and since he is a commercial fisherman supporting his family, he doesn't have time for the trivial nonsense we participate in here. I talk to Bill all the time and he is doing fine.

OK, carry on.

he's a light weight ........with the manners of a goat

I don’t post as much anywhere anymore. You kind of go trough these stages in life as others have said more eloquently. I must say that sb.com is the only site I look at every day and I am grateful that I met so many people though it. The NE flavor of the site is right up my alley and yes, although sometimes it can be a bit "same old" like any other place its still my favorite site. I feel like I know you guys for years yet many I've never meet. Maybe because the few that I did meet turned out to become good friends.

This site does not suck.
Goats eat poison ivy.
Here's a picture of my grandma and her sisters in the late 30's (for striperman). She's third from the right.

I suggest the following new rule in order to improve the atmosphere in the forum:

If one should post a picture of a caught fish, there should only be praise and commendation bestowed upon that post. No exceptions.

Those who break this rule would go to a temporary 'jealousy hole' for having a dissenting opinion of the original post. Other members would be able to flame the dissenter w/o the possibility of any responses from the guilty party in this 'q bin'. When the guilty is released and allowed to post again, he would be labeled 'tree hugging douche' or something similar under his user name for a probationary period of time.

Keep in mind that if you don't like my idea, you are in fact most likely a douche yourself - or at least a facsimile thereof.

TREE HUGGING DOUCHE :rotf2:

WERTYUIO

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F u ck It 1st pitch :wall:

I troll more often now to see whats happening out of curiosity. Only time I log in is to see fish porn or post something.

Overall StriperTalk just doesnt seem the same anymore. I remember a few years ago I was learning a lot from the people on this site, not so much anymore. I find myself skimming the threads now, like someone said earlier the boards have gotten watered down. Every once in a while I find something new and I appreciate the site for that. Just a few weeks ago I think Raider Ronnie had a post about the slim beauty knot. I tried it out and found it works nice. thanks!!!!!!! (lol bigfish)

Spence and I typically don't agree on political topics but I do enjoy posting things I find to stir the pot there and get a big kick out of Spence's extensive knowledge and quick wit.

My favorite section used to be plug building. I stopped going because well, I stopped building. (mainly because I no longer have access to the proper equipment) That's something would like to get back into it in the future. (Moses I haven't forgotten about you, still owe ya a plug) I liked how in there everyone helped each other out no matter if it was a noob starting or a more experience builder learning a new trick. If there was more of that in the Stripertalk I think things would improve.

I agree with Zacs a Hooters meeting is good idea.
"its to Fn Hot to fish"

Clammer the pic of #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& cuddling the fish on your couch is the best, reminds me of the good old days here.... LOL remember when they hyjacked your boat! hahaha

Oh yeah...this fn drives me insane/

vBulletin Message Your submission could not be processed because you were not logged in..(after I log in, is there a session abandon. timeout feature? )

usually i ctrl copy my posts before hitting submit because this always happens to me and I end up losing my post. why???? sometimes I forget and its not good :bsod:

Hey Moto check off the 'remember me' box when you log in and that way unless you clean your cookies you'll always be ready to go. Makes it easier to just come here and hit 'new post' and see whats been added since my last visit.

We are the site ,, so if the site sux .. we suc .. no way ,, .. jsut a lull .. :smash:

Isn't there a saying.....out of site out of your mind?

Those who break this rule would go to a temporary XXXXXXXXXXXfor having a dissenting opinion of the original post.

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Brilliant. 2-3% of the population are homosexual and not one of them chose to be that way. 2-3% of our children will be homosexual, and none of them or us will chose for them to be that way. I'm sure there are men in this forum who are deeply hurt by this sort of discrimination and lack of moderator input to correct it. Life for these people and their families is already plenty painful enough. Allowing posts like the above to stand unchallenged does indeed suggest this site can suck. Pathetic!

i think that the key word to luds' opening post is "right now"

this site is a living, breathing, entity that evolves as members leave, members change, members stay, and new blood gets pumped into it to keep it growing. and we seem to have ALL of that. sooooo, it is going to have its seasons of S#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&ESS tendered with its times of GREATNESS. and "now" is as fleeting as it gets,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,kinda like our NE weather. if ya don't like it, just wait a minute or so and it will change.

but what we ALSO enjoy is, imho, one of the most informative, hilarious, good natured, thick-skinned, sharing, caring, high hooking, collection of surfcasters known to the Striper Coast. we are quite unique in that respect~~~ some LOVE it, some don't, and there are those some ones that are inbetween. but, in the end it is a place that i choose to call "home". simply meaning that i feel welcomed, there is a sense of belonging, and the fraternal aspect of this obsession we share is real and as tangible as i choose to make it.

and that is what i've learned most in my time here, in that, as is true in Life you WILL get back what you put into SB.com. however in my case, i have gotten tons more. there are times when i feel like a sponge, soaking up more than i will ever be able to repay. other times i do not know how/why ya'll continue to tolerate my brand of "crazy". most times i know that when i do invest the time, either cyberally or in reality, i am crushing my surfcaster learning curve, meeting some true gentlemen of kindred spirit, and genuinely having a BLAST along the weigh.

THANKS TO YOU ALL for making SB.com what it is "right now", what it is becoming, and what it will be as we move forward. Bossman, you know how much i appreciate ALL that you do to keep the lights turned on and the bells and whistles in tune. and here's a shout-out to the mods for keeping it reel from their thankless positions.

Keep it clean folks, please.

My bad for getting all sanctimonious yet again. :yak4: Carry on.

My bad for getting all sanctimonious yet again. :yak4: Carry on.

good call George .. missed it .

no surprize you missed it TAGGER:gh:

Obviously I was using the Q word in reference to the other 4 times it was previously used in this thread (some have since been edited) and in the other locked thread this spawned from. You and the others that are actually paying attention know that, however. :rollem: Even though a few of them still remain in quotes.

Brilliant. 2-3% of the population are homosexual and not one of them chose to be that way. 2-3% of our children will be homosexual, and none of them or us will chose for them to be that way. I'm sure there are men in this forum who are deeply hurt by this sort of discrimination and lack of moderator input to correct it. Life for these people and their families is already plenty painful enough. Allowing posts like the above to stand unchallenged does indeed suggest this site can suck. Pathetic!

My bad for getting all sanctimonious yet again. :yak4: Carry on.

:gf::rocketem:

good call George .. missed it .

You missed a couple of the bad Q words - I can help you with one but at least one or two others remain.

Maybe if people would take more time to think about what they post, the site would suck a lot less.

I guess I had to "censor" some stuff in the thread, I sure have better things to do, like read the 5 pages of new posts since i been online last.
I need a vacation from my vacation


CLAMMER :grins::grins: :btu:
I love you posting pictures , thanks
I never seen that one of me and Danny heading out in some tough wind in the cold to find the schoolies, that was a good time.

what was the locked thread that spawned all this?
fill me in, then maybe I should lock this :( I'd rather not though


I guess this thread is growing pains

If they guy put the fish back like he should have this wouldn't even be an issue right now. It's his fault. :hee:

http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/stripertalk/64839-60-85-lber-wieghed-cup.html

what was the locked thread that spawned all this?
fill me in, then maybe I should lock this :( I'd rather not though


I guess this thread is growing pains

Obviously I was using the Q word in reference to the other 4 times it was previously used in this thread (some have since been edited) and in the other locked thread this spawned from. You and the others that are actually paying attention know that, however. :rollem: Even though a few of them still remain in quotes.





:gf::rocketem:



You missed a couple of the bad Q words - I can help you with one but at least one or two others remain.



ok

it's done and over

if we need another vaccum cleaner
then we'll get one
sorry I had to edit your post, nobody is perfect and we left the comment there in the 2nd post of the thread so we are to blame for another train wreck, excuse us. move on now



It's a fishing website people

If they guy put the fish back like he should have this wouldn't even be an issue right now. It's his fault. :hee:

http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/stripertalk/64839-60-85-lber-wieghed-cup.html


ok we get it

enough sarcasm, you made your point:)

let's start some more threads about what we'd do if we catch a trophy :wall:

I didn't even realized that thread was closed
:(
what a shame:(

I'll never understand those threads how they happen, I am not a psychologist

HEY JOHN
can I have some more PM space? :hidin: it's overflowed:wall:

This one's run its course......lock it down.

With the weather being so hot perhaps it's time for another hygene thread:devil2:

Everyone in the pool

:D

Slip - all set.

Are we done folks? I see a lot of criticism going around, much worthy, I'll take my lumps too.

Can we dial back on the rudeness a little?

Scott - if that is who I think it is, please remove that.

I think we're done. This thread is ready to go bye bye. Blow it away.

This

site

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awsome

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OK - think it is time to close the thread

WEEEEEE need to be more respectful of each other - I think that will help.

We can and should still debate our different perspectives, just use a little more tact when doing so.

If there are additional concerns that need to be a dresses, a new thread specific to the topic can be used or a PM to the needed people.

Thanks,

John