View Full Version : Anyone heard of the penetrator?


plugger
04-15-2003, 10:16 PM
I was up at goose hummock and bought some penetrators, I heard they work very well with the bass and weakfish. Has anybody tried these? If so, is there anyplace else where I can buy them other than goose. Thanks! By the way I only saw one color (silver) do they have any other colors?:rolleyes:

capesams
04-16-2003, 05:24 AM
next time your in goose ask mark , he runs the fish dept./ other colors.

mikecc
04-16-2003, 05:41 AM
this is how it started on the other boards. Every time a guy asked about this lure it was the owner or his friend and it was their first posts.:smash: Lets see where this goes.
sorry if it is not them this time I just thought it funny:D

GBOUTDOORS
04-16-2003, 06:58 AM
Anyone try the new Wonder rod? I hear if it works it's a wonder. :eek: I think it was made just for throwing the Penetratore:rolleyes:

JohnR
04-16-2003, 07:24 AM
Ahhhwww Jeeez... Nah. We only have one custom soft plastic bait around here. LEDGERUNNERs! Got Rubba?


"I'm really stoked to try them"

Sadly I was hoping this would not happen but it does appear as though we have another "Plugging" for "Penetrators" on another site. Now if I had just shut up here, sometime tomorrow we would have someone from Penetrator saying in a JP Waterman voice - "Why yes, I have your Penetrator right here, err, I mean at Goose Hummock" "And try the Ugly Mug down in..."

Listen - I'm not going to knock the baits - I haven't used them before so I can't say one way or the other. But I'm not a fan of people plugging a product or bringing up a product on their first post in what appears to be a sales pitch. This REEKS of deceptive advertising & spam. This REEKS the same way it did over on SS & SOL.

Hey "Plugger" - I may be wrong and if so I appologize but I seriously doubt it. But this smells just like the start of previous threads at other sites. new member #1 "Have you heard about..." new member #2 "Gee, no tell me about this wonderfull profuct..." new member #1 "Well 77, you see it's like this..."...

I also find it interesting that I just had an e-mail from MarineTropical the other day, the owners / distributors of this product and I told him I would check them out. That's when I heard it was these guys...

Again, I'm not gonna knock your product - I have nothing of value to say about it, but I really truly believe that this reeks of setting up free advertising...

plugger
04-16-2003, 07:36 AM
Thanks cape sam for the info I will give mark a call at goose. Sorry guys you have the wrong guy. I know this was my first post, but I had asked a friend about these penetrators and he recommended to ask someone at this site because it deals with new england fishing and the cape.:p So since I bought the damn things at goose i figured you guys would have something good or bad to say about them as I have yet to use them. Bought them late last year. Anyway, Has anyone used it yet and if so whats the scoop? :rolleyes:

JohnR
04-16-2003, 07:50 AM
Plugger - I do hope I'm wrong but this has happened at at least 3 sites in the last month or so...

Anyway - where are you from?

fishweewee
04-16-2003, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by plugger
I was up at goose hummock and bought some penetrators, I heard they work very well with the bass and weakfish. Has anybody tried these? If so, is there anyplace else where I can buy them other than goose. Thanks! By the way I only saw one color (silver) do they have any other colors?:rolleyes:

Okay, the weakfish reference is a dead Mid-Atlantic/Noo Yawk giveaway to me.

:hang:

Big Vern
04-16-2003, 08:39 AM
You're right WeeWee. No Goose Hummock employee is going to tell someone that it works great on weakies.

Plugger, you're suspect.

Saltheart
04-16-2003, 08:40 AM
"The Penetrator"!?! Hmmm :)

JohnR
04-16-2003, 08:44 AM
Remember - "Family Friendly" site :rtfm: :wall: :cheers:

WeeWee - good point. Anyone ever catch a Squet north of Buzzards Bay? Not in the Tarpon in LI Sound, OJ being innocent "It COULD happen" sort of way, but anyone regularly fingding weaks off the Back Beaches? Or into Boston? I heard of one that was caught a few YEARS ago but the fartest north and east I've heard them targeted is in Mt Hope Bay...

fishweewee
04-16-2003, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by Don Corleone
You're right WeeWee. No Goose Hummock employee is going to tell someone that it works great on weakies.

Plugger, you're suspect.

Let's ask the folks at the Goose if any weakies are caught East of Bass River, or North of Buzzard's Bay for that matter.

And...correct me if I'm wrong, but "weakfish" ain't the local term for that fish. ;)

-WW

Got Stripers
04-16-2003, 10:04 AM
I have so enjoyed the "subtle" approach the owner and his friends have taken on the other boards. Subtle only if your not old enough to walk yet, to most it's blatent spam, no doubt about it.

No skin off my nose, I'll post my link in my signature on other boards or answer direct questions if board rules allow. I might have posted a picture or two on a larger board south of hear just to tweak his nose, ironically I'm about to ship him 100 big and mega jerks in black over red.

Nice to be a sponsor and have some posting privledges, especially on a friendly board I consider home. Tight lines and always carry rubber, you never know when the opportunity might present itself:).

chris L
04-16-2003, 10:20 AM
ya want to know how good it is send me a few for free and Ill tyr them and give you an honest opinion . otherwise I wont be using that peneTRATOR anytime soon .

mikecc
04-16-2003, 05:39 PM
Nice to be a sponsor and have some posting privledges, especially on a friendly board I consider home.

Remember me MarineT :D

Oh Ya
I still wont carry your "P"Baits. I felt it was a scam then and I proved it on SS and looks the same here.

Hay GS

When is the MY shipment of LEDGERUNNERS coming in:happy:

Got Stripers
04-16-2003, 06:53 PM
Hey Mike your orders up next, been a little busy and now I'm fighting off another bout of pnuemonia. On the plus side, I now have a 16 year old laid up to trim baits for me:). I'll have it to you by next week, as soon as I can stand some fumes, I'll be back at it.

mikecc
04-16-2003, 07:12 PM
:btu:

plugger
04-16-2003, 07:30 PM
JohnR, What is it with this board? I am out on the island in new york. Where are you from?:p I fish alot at montauk and robert moses and jones beach. I went into the other message board to find out about ledgerunnerbaits and it seems that they think I am marineT.:confused: I am not marineT and it seems that some of the guys on here are kinda nasty. Who cares Penetrators, ledge runners, whatever works.:cool: I'm just a friendly fisherman, Last time I ask anything on this board. Geezzzzzzz:rolleyes:

fishweewee
04-16-2003, 07:33 PM
Yep, dem ledge runners work pretty well at the Sore Thumb and Demo. Heck, even dredged up a keeper fluke @ the Captree docks on one.

JohnR
04-16-2003, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by plugger
JohnR, What is it with this board? I am out on the island in new york. Where are you from?:p I fish alot at montauk and robert moses and jones beach. I went into the other message board to find out about ledgerunnerbaits and it seems that they think I am marineT.:confused: I am not marineT and it seems that some of the guys on here are kinda nasty. Who cares Penetrators, ledge runners, whatever works.:cool: I'm just a friendly fisherman, Last time I ask anything on this board. Geezzzzzzz:rolleyes:

Plugger I'm from Mass but I'm now in Rhody - the best little fishing state in the country :D ... It just seems a lot like the start of the thread on SS that sounded like a "Plug" for a product. Made worse by the fact that you registered as "Plugger" and your first post was a plug for another product. We've seen stuff start off like that for years now - long before SS, SOL, or S-B ever got their starts... When you say you went to the other board to ask about ledgerunners - now I'm confused. Who did you register on the other site as? Can you see how easy it is to believe that your intention is to pitch for the Penetratsors?

In a nut shell, yes, they all do work. I know I speak for many when I say that we know that the LRs work great up here and that's based on experience. the Penetrators? We'll see.

Anyway - I hope you see where people are coming from...

Thanks,

John

plugger
04-17-2003, 11:20 AM
JohnR, Yeah I understand where you are coming from. Kind of ridiculous but i guess it makes sense. Sorry, I am a plugger, as in I like to fish with plugs and lures:p . So, hence my name. Also i know there are no weakfish way up north there. But they are here in long, Island and jersey.:D I know the penetrator works great on bass, I figured i would get more input. Thanks to you guys i saw there advertisement on another bass site. Nobody complaining about them there. :cool: They are saying that the pink color works great for the weaks. Hey, sorry you guys don't get the weaks up there (speckled trout, sea trout) or what ever you want to call them, But I fish for alot more than just bass. Come on down and fish with us. Good luck fishing this year, God bless our troops! Come home safe!!!

Mike P
04-17-2003, 11:44 PM
Ever get any speckled trout at West End 2? I've heard of a few taken here and there ;)

I hear you can buy Penetrators from Ron at SOL.

fishweewee
04-18-2003, 06:43 AM
Mike, I caught all sorts of critters on many a W.E II jetty death march.

Yeah, I caught a tarpon and a redfish and a cobia there once. ;)

But I was too skeered to catch those specks - I heer those snaggle teeth can do a number on ya.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

:rolleyes: :laughs:

I wonder if I could catch a JFK Boeing 737 with one of dem penetrators... :D

bassmaster
04-19-2003, 08:08 AM
the rubber sucks overpriced crap with rusting hooks

fishweewee
04-19-2003, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by BM
the rubber sucks overpriced crap with rusting hooks

Nah, tell us how you REALLY feel about them Dave. :smash: :eek:

plugger
04-21-2003, 05:32 PM
I don't know what product you are talking about fishingweewee. But the Penetrators I have, the hooks don't rust. They are VMC hooks. What do you have against this thing anyway?:D I just picked up some stripers this past weekend on the silver in jersey. :p Nice fish nothing big around 12 to 14 lbs. I guess you guys up there need a few more weeks for them to make their way up to you. I love the cape!!! Beautiful up there. Keep in touch! Tight lines:cool:

bobber
04-21-2003, 06:24 PM
it seems that every few weeks these guy(s) get their balls together to start a trolling blitz on the bas fishin sites. They were found to have the exact same IP address on SOL- (did you check this guy John?) and were summarily executed (so to speak). so I will respond here as I did there-
go away(!)

Skitterpop
04-21-2003, 07:32 PM
I like to freeze my penetrator baits so when the bass are busting on top with a quick snap cast my sizzling frozen projectile will penetrate the bass thus turning them into weakfish.

I like the Deep Purple color!

JohnR
04-22-2003, 08:37 AM
Bobber - I haven't had time to follow up more on it but I can't go into more detail o it right now :) ... Hey, is Tim going to sell these things on SOL?

bobber
04-22-2003, 08:54 AM
John- I certainly DO NOT speak for TimS, but I would highly doubt that he's gonna sell these things after the antics that these guys are trying to pull. their MO is the same each time- an obvious troll, followed by a good-natured "aw geez" explanation from MarineTropical trying to be all up-front about it... yada yada yada....:o

JohnR
04-22-2003, 09:30 AM
Didn't think you were speaking for him but I was wondering if there had been a thread on that. I thought that I heard something along those lines but it was just in passing.

I have so little time to follow the threads here at times that I rarely get over there....

Just too many coinkydinks :eek5: ....

fishweewee
04-22-2003, 09:34 AM
It' a moot point as far as I'm concerned. I have so many yummy ledgerunners right now - there ain't no room for any more rubbah. :smash: :laughs:

STEVE IN MASS
04-22-2003, 11:35 AM
John - I certainly can't speak for Tim, but from what I understand, MarineTropic is more than willing to have (pay for) a banner at SOL, and Tim seems willing to have him do so....however, with all the software upgrades and the server change Tim is doing, the Banners have been unavailable for quite some time, and will be until his upgrade is done.

As far as whether he will sell them, not sure on that....

Of course, there are some folks over there that are sour on the whole thing because of the shinaniganes that have taken place, here, there and elsewhere. And whether MT just had some exhuberant friends trying to help him out, without his blessing, or not, is still up for debate....;)

Mike P
04-22-2003, 02:49 PM
Here's the short version---I caught one guy registering multiple handles for the apparent (and only he knows his motives for sure) purpose of adding "weight of numbers" so to speak, in support of the effectiveness of Penetrators. I arranged for that one guy to be unable to register and post without going thru some hurdles in the future. Tim supported me in that. MarineTropical, who was NOT the person I caught, offered to let Tim and I try out the lures. And he and Tim (this is confirmed by Tim in the threads) have spoken about a banner sponsorship. But as Steve said, with all the server problems Tim has had, that's on hold until Tim tweaks things out.

And since none of us can read minds, Tim is giving him every benefit of the doubt on whether he's encouraging people to do what's been going on here, SOL and SS. Just as an aside, I've fished with gonefishing, and he seems like a straight shooter. He knows MT too, and says the lures are very effective. And that MT is a good guy and a straight shooter, too

What really turned me off was the way the Penetrator choir there trashed Ledgerunners, one of them saying they look like something you'd apply shoe polish with :rolleyes: And some of the idiotic claims about how their "unique" jighead, nothing more than a garden variety 1-1/2 oz bullet jighead, was the key to getting it down underneath blues.

None of these attacks and/or claims was made by marinetropical. It looks like a case of well-meaning friends trying to help out in a way that turned a lot of people off.

Got Stripers
04-23-2003, 06:20 PM
Shoe polish hmmmm, well back to the drawing board. I'll need to make some design changes. Maybe Bloo can come up with a master sketch for me, 13 inch Mega Polisher, scoope tail, buffing mid section and a soft brush head to buff out between coats. Just how to pour it up:) out of plastic.