LOL so true so damn true LOL

Smart a-- LOL

What I find interesting is that the guy listing his 50s is proving the point that a 50" fish can't weigh 80+ lbs., WHILE ARGUING THE OPPOSITE.

Not one of his 50"+/- bass went 75, or 65, or even 60 pounds, but we are being asked to believe that the CT fish went 82.
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What I find interesting is that the guy listing his 50s is proving the point that a 50" fish can't weigh 80+ lbs., WHILE ARGUING THE OPPOSITE.

Not one of his 50"+/- bass went 75, or 65, or even 60 pounds, but we are being asked to believe that the CT fish went 82.
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Jon--it's the girth that gives weight to a fish, not the length. That's why you square the girth, not the length, when you use the weight calculator. There are 50" fish that don't make it to 40 pounds, too. They're racers that are all head with no girth.

I can give you absolute proof that a low 50" fish can weigh over 75 lbs---Al McReynolds. That fish is well documented and it went 53-1/2", but with a massive girth at 35". At that length, it was a pound and a half short of 80 pounds. A 54" fish can easily go 80 lbs if it has the girth to go with it. Don't judge a fish's size by a bad picture. I've done it in the past and had to eat crow later. ;)

You know whats stupidly priceless? Not a single person runnin their gums saw the fish ist hand. LOL.My 56lber was51 in. my 54 was 49 in my 53 was 52 in my 51 was 53 in. I've got a couple more in there too. LOL. I saw a 58 in that was 38lb.I also saw a 96 lb net fish that was 63 in long.The guy is credible. The jealousy isn't.Stupidly sad.My hats off to the guy. I've lost some really nice hogs an saw one over 60 in lost by a buddy on the Vineyard . big fish are out there. Thats a big fish. I have a 54 on the wall that that fish makes look like a Guppy.


Common bud, U can tell wieght / length proportions... Broadness of tail, body, girth etc.. Not one correct lenght/ girth measurement? Ive seen VA fish that were 48-49 inches long and well over 50lbs. that fish aint it and that and what everybody else I know says.. I have seen fish 53"-54" long in the 60's, Yeah never a 70 or 80 and probably never will. I spoke with my buddy that personally saw mcreynolds fish and is laughing his but off in comparison... I nor anybody I know could hold em out like this guy... I got a 59 on the wall and it looks bigger, the 53.10 mouth that I have is bigger than that fish.. There are alot of variables... I predict it will not be accepted as a WR By IGFA...
Look at the mouth where he is putting a tape measure too. You can get an idea of the girth and how the belly is sunken in... I cant tell u how many guys predicted this when Vican caught his fish.

Jon--it's the girth that gives weight to a fish, not the length. That's why you square the girth, not the length, when you use the weight calculator. There are 50" fish that don't make it to 40 pounds, too. They're racers that are all head with no girth.

I can give you absolute proof that a low 50" fish can weigh over 75 lbs---Al McReynolds. That fish is well documented and it went 53-1/2", but with a massive girth at 35". At that length, it was a pound and a half short of 80 pounds. A 54" fish can easily go 80 lbs if it has the girth to go with it. Don't judge a fish's size by a bad picture. I've done it in the past and had to eat crow later. ;)

If that fish was 54" and it had the girth of some of the fish Ive seen agreed.. I never said a 54" fish cant be 80.. A 49-50" fish, it would look like a footbal, 1 " Is a huge amount on a fish.. That fish doesnt have the broadness... No way. And yeah., I personally measured a 52" fish that was 35LBS on the Cape, thin as could be... Common Guys, This is supposed to be a world Record striped Bass, big news, bigger that OTW or FS, why the quietness and been nearly 48 Hours????

You guys all did read, weve been out of recession since 2009!

[QUOTE: stripermaineiac: "You know whats stupidly priceless? Not a single person runnin their gums saw the fish ist hand".


To Stripermaniac: Your assumption that no one saw it first hand is stupidly priceless... You remember the crowd that was reportedly gathered at the shop for the weigh in??? Some of those people were actually fishermen... from this board... And it didnt look a pound over 65.

If the fish LOOKS like its 80+ youre fine... when it looks like its a 60, you get a video camera and you dissect the thing in front of Geraldo Rivera to dispel all doubt. I would do it to shut everybody the hell up preemptively.

If you fish just for fun and dont want cash, prizes, and fame, dont bring it to a shop to get weighed... weigh it at home on a deer scale... but if you want the lime light, prepare to have it shined up your Asss for a card-pulling colonoscopy.

And I just fell off the turnip truck. Sorry but that tape is NOT on the ground it's about 2" above it...but it IS in a direct straight line under the fish. We could sit here arguing about this all day. Not me. I still don't believe this picture. There's another shot of the mouth of the fish with a tape. 5" across the mouth. That also don't say 81lb. I've caught 30lbers with bigger mouths than that.
Off to work enjoy the conspiracy theories. :rotf2:

No way that tape in the picture is flat to the ground. It was shot either as he was putting it down or lifting it up.

Jon--it's the girth that gives weight to a fish, not the length. That's why you square the girth, not the length, when you use the weight calculator. There are 50" fish that don't make it to 40 pounds, too. They're racers that are all head with no girth.

I can give you absolute proof that a low 50" fish can weigh over 75 lbs---Al McReynolds. That fish is well documented and it went 53-1/2", but with a massive girth at 35". At that length, it was a pound and a half short of 80 pounds. A 54" fish can easily go 80 lbs if it has the girth to go with it. Don't judge a fish's size by a bad picture. I've done it in the past and had to eat crow later. ;)

I understand that Mike, but has the girth of this fish been made public?

And do we have an accurate length yet?

Hypothetical weight calculations hold little water, just as a 'certified weight' is meaningless without opening the fish up.
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That pic just posted looks legit to me! Especially when compared to Vican's fish . Look at the guys track record and reputation ....

Some of you guys are ridiculous with your comments . :jump1::jump1:

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And I thought women were catty.....

:rotf3:And I thought women were catty.....:hidin:

And I thought women were catty.....Thank You Jenn....:uhuh:

Is this still going on???? Pa-leeeez already!!!:smash:

Is this still going on???? Pa-leeeez already!!!:smash:

This fellow is playing the Internet crowd as well as he played the fish.
The more controversy, the more publicity.....better for his bottom line.

He'll be laughing all the way to the bank. Jealousy is a powerful thing.

Huge fish and it may be a record but I have to agree,it's not 54". Blame the photographer if you like. Now my biggest was 46# so I really only have the pictures to judge.

All this talk about the fishes length is meaningless, we are talking about a weight record here. The IGFA will have the last word, leave it at that before questioning someones character.

If someone posted a picture of a 50lb. fish that the majority of the people found hard to believe based on several pictures along with some odd story-details, that person would get similar results in this silly virtual world of ours....this being a possilbe WR, it's just that much higher on the totem pole in and outside the inter-fishnet, in either case...no websitez is going to make someone cut a fish open for our own credibility approval. Like others have said, time will decide how this pans out. Hopefully, the powers that be, if and when it receives a WR title recognition, will clear up any possibility of discrepency.....otherwise....it will always have... :no2:

In seeing some of the pics, they do raise my eye-brows too,,, but I'm no visual expert to actually call it BS. It's a Super-Cow for sure, but the actual Holy Grail? Time will tell. My jury is still out for now.

Nice fish either way Mr. Meyerson.

Come on is spelled come on not common:smash:


Jenn, good one



a 25 lb bass has a mouth 5" across so I don't know what is up with that picture.:confused:


I guess if you are going to submit a fish for a record, you better be prepared for all kinds of possibilities to remove all doubt. I know I would have gone to several weigh stations and after driving around with it mounted to my front grille :buds:, I'd allow it to be cut open if questioned. And I would not allow anyone but my professional photographer brother to shoot pics of me and the fish, any pics would then be copyrighted.

And I thought women were catty.....
:rotf2:

The point about the fish I stated is that Charlie Churches fish 73lb was 53 in and Charlie cintos fish-73 lb was in there too along with Al's fish 78 lb.You can't just go by length. I've taken 7 bunker over 2lbs each out of a fish along with a lobster an some crabs.MMMMM they have a huge ability to gorge themselves balooning their weight over 20 plus pounds when the food is available and not getting an inch longer.

The point about the fish I stated is that Charlie Churches fish 73lb was 53 in and Charlie cintos fish-73 lb was in there too along with Al's fish 78 lb.You can't just go by length. I've taken 7 bunker over 2lbs each out of a fish along with a lobster an some crabs.MMMMM they have a huge ability to gorge themselves balooning their weight over 20 plus pounds when the food is available and not getting an inch longer.

Well, Charlie's about 5'6", so the fish looked a lot longer when he was holding it. ;)

In any event--Ken, don't take this as directed at you, because it's not. But this thread, in general, re-enforces my thinking that getting out of the Striper Cup, and tournaments in geneal besides my local "bragging rights only" one, was the right thing to do. There's more to life than fishing, and this stuff really isn't worth getting worked up over. If this isn't legit, then Mr. Myerson has to live with himself knowing he lived a lie. If it is legit, we kind of look like petty little children.

Part of me also wonders whether the reason for Al McReynolds to have so many demons chasing him over the years, to the point where he says his fish ruined his life, had to do with something amiss about the circumstances of the catch, and him having to live with knowing all those naysayers were right after all. I want to believe that Al really did catch the fish from the rocks on a legal terminal rig. I do believe it, but they'll always be a part of me that wonders, just based on what I know about human nature and the way he's acted over the years. I know that Charlie Cinto never lost a second of sleep over the fact that his fish wasn't eligible for the official record because the lure and line weren't legal. Charlie always enjoyed, and still enjoys, that fish for what it was. As does Tony Stetzlo, even though his 73 was never a record.

Take my advice--trust the woman's perspective here. They have this stuff prioritized better than those of us who carry more testosterone in our systems. ;)

The belly has depth, but she doesn't look like she's stuffed with bunker.

If she is 54" long, then her girth would need to be 35" to be 82lbs..

If she is 50", then her girth would need to be 36".
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The belly has depth, but she doesn't look like she's stuffed with bunker.

If she is 54" long, then her girth would need to be 35" to be 82lbs..

If she is 50", then her girth would need to be 36".
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Kierran saw the fish. None of the rest of us have. We're operating off pictures, and a lot of them aren't so good. Kierran has the best pictures, IMO.

If Crafty Angler still posted here, he could tell you the saga of me and Big #^&#^&#^&#^& Tremblay, when I questioned the size of Big #^&#^&#^&#^&'s fish based on a bad picture. Fish often look smaller, and thinner, when the guy holding them is a big dude, and Big #^&#^&#^&#^& Tremblay was even bigger than Myerson. Uncle Crafty gave me the needle for months afterwards. :D

Like I said above--my father knew Charlie Cinto, and Charlie gave him a picture of himself with his 73 pounder. Charlie's a little guy, and his fish looks like it's easily over 5' long when Charlie's holding it up. In reality, it was only 54-55 inches long. Al McReynolds is short and stocky, which also exaggerated the size of his fish, which was "only" 53-1/2" long.

Thankfully, I'm a skinny dude nowaday, so even though I'm on the tall side, a racer would look like it had the girth of an oil drum in my WR pictures. :rotf2:

Dont forget the pics of Iron Mike and his 60 lber.. small dude.. HUGE FISH

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Good Post:huh:

Note to self: When I catch the new world record striper......let it go as fast as I can and tell no one.:uhuh:

:rotf2:

Kierran's pics are the best ones in my opinion Mike. They definitely show the fish is BIG.

I hope it all works out for the angler.

And I hope all the big fish chasers learn that with a little forethought they can save themselves a load of grief when going public with a big, big bass.1) Measure the length and girth as accurately and precisely as possible, and document with good photos, 2) Never show pictures that could be misleading or misinterpretted, 3) Open the fish up, with multiple, reliable, impartial witnesses present if the measured weight and calculated weight don't seem to jive... In short, dot the "I's", cross the "T's", and be as transparent as possible when seeking glory via a big bass.

Good luck Greg!
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If I were ever to catch big fish, I would let him go. Larrys a good guy and wouldn't look good on my wall..
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The belly has depth, but she doesn't look like she's stuffed with bunker.

If she is 54" long, then her girth would need to be 35" to be 82lbs..

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I can see that . My 42lb had a 28" girth ,and it looks like a minnow compared to that fish !

Why does woody keep talking about CT fish?Nowhere else has consistent fishing like CT besides the Block,August included.
Cowhunter obviously has a boner for Myerson because of the fact he beat him out last year for Angler of the Year. This is petty jealousy and nothing more and regardless of the outcome, it makes Kenny seem like nothing less than a sore loser.He hasn't posted for a while but he is burning the phones and internet trying to discredit this accomplishment.I hope he gets the record just so Ken can eat crow.This way he and all his sycophants will have have whined in vain.If the shoe were on the other foot,and someday it could be,he would recruit more help to surround him.Go cry to On The Water,but they have to play by their own rules and not make exceptions to appease the masses.
I agree with MikeP,this cheaters tournament was tarnished a long time ago and I am glad I got out when I did.

I can see that . My 42lb had a 28" girth ,and it looks like a minnow compared to that fish !

Got that by reworking the length-girth formula....

(Girth x Girth x Length) / 800 = Weight

SO ...

Girth = Square Root of (Weight x 800) / Length

Please check me on this!!!


PS I keep mentioning CT fish??? So CT is a striper hot bed like BI?? I want some of what you smoke Chris!


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[QUOTE=Sea Dangles;877908]Why does woody keep talking about CT fish?Nowhere else has consistent fishing like CT besides the Block,August included.

Cowhunter obviously has a boner for Myerson because of the fact he beat him out last year for Angler of the Year. This is petty jealousy and nothing more and regardless of the outcome, it makes Kenny seem like nothing less than a sore loser.He hasn't posted for a while but he is burning the phones and internet trying to discredit this accomplishment.I hope he gets the record just so Ken can eat crow.This way he and all his sycophants will have have whined in vain.If the shoe were on the other foot,and someday it could be,he would recruit more help to surround him.Go cry to On The Water,but they have to play by their own rules and not make exceptions to appease the masses.

Wasnt even close to Angler of the year, not even in top 5... There were more deserving anglers putting more time in than I was...

I guess when some 60% of the people on the other sites poll see it as BS they are stupid? Monicas fluke was a world record too, everybody that was disputing that was stupid too... This is way above OTW and F&S, this is a World record striped bass we are talking about and the behavior that went along with this fish was extremely suspicious! The pictures do even more to discredit the fish, but I completely understand just how normal all his other fish looked along with this one and just how normal his behavior was. I know youve seen your share and wieghed your share of 40's, 50's and 60's. You can honestly say from all the Photos, interviews from freelance writers who want a story, you are 100% convinced with no doubt that something is a miss? Have you even spoke with anybody thats seen the fish? Its not about jealousy at all, I know I have a better chances of winning a lottery than catching a world record! What injustice would be done to the current World and state records if in fact something was not right here???

Here Chris, You and Greg Meyerson can learn from a much more intelligent person on the proper proceedure of filing for a world record. No Panic Attacks, ER Visits, Games, leader stories, Red mushy or disapearing fish, running from the tackle shops or the press, and no DRAMA, a truly appreciating and deserving angler. Shes only 14, knows how to use a camera, measuring tape and understanding length to fork, length to tip, and girth. followed simple, yet extremely complicated instructions for some. I am confident in saying that probably 100% of striped bass anglers couldnt be happier for a more deserving Angler!

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/breaking/it-s-official-vineland-girl-s-striped-bass-catch-is/article_2e82f39e-614c-11e0-be6b-001cc4c03286.html

All the Best to You Chris! I hope that you may catch an 80 one day! My days of Com fishing and charters in New England are over bud...

[QUOTE=Sea Dangles;877908]Why does woody keep talking about CT fish?Nowhere else has consistent fishing like CT besides the Block,August included.

Cowhunter obviously has a boner for Myerson because of the fact he beat him out last year for Angler of the Year. This is petty jealousy and nothing more and regardless of the outcome, it makes Kenny seem like nothing less than a sore loser.He hasn't posted for a while but he is burning the phones and internet trying to discredit this accomplishment.I hope he gets the record just so Ken can eat crow.This way he and all his sycophants will have have whined in vain.If the shoe were on the other foot,and someday it could be,he would recruit more help to surround him.Go cry to On The Water,but they have to play by their own rules and not make exceptions to appease the masses.

Wasnt even close to Angler of the year, not even in top 5... There were more deserving anglers putting more time in than I was...

I guess when some 60% of the people on the other sites poll see it as BS they are stupid? Monicas fluke was a world record too, everybody that was disputing that was stupid too... This is way above OTW and F&S, this is a World record striped bass we are talking about and the behavior that went along with this fish was extremely suspicious! The pictures do even more to discredit the fish, but I completely understand just how normal all his other fish looked along with this one and just how normal his behavior was. I know youve seen your share and wieghed your share of 40's, 50's and 60's. You can honestly say from all the Photos, interviews from freelance writers who want a story, you are 100% convinced with no doubt that something is a miss? Have you even spoke with anybody thats seen the fish? Its not about jealousy at all, I know I have a better chances of winning a lottery than catching a world record! What injustice would be done to the current World and state records if in fact something was not right here???

Here Chris, You and Greg Meyerson can learn from a much more intelligent person on the proper proceedure of filing for a world record. No Panic Attacks, ER Visits, Games, leader stories, Red mushy or disapearing fish, running from the tackle shops or the press, and no DRAMA, a truly appreciating and deserving angler. Shes only 14 and I, and probably 100% of striped bass anglers couldnt be happier for a more deserving Angler!

It's official: Vineland girl's 58.29-pound striped bass is a world record - pressofAtlanticCity.com: Breaking News (http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/breaking/it-s-official-vineland-girl-s-striped-bass-catch-is/article_2e82f39e-614c-11e0-be6b-001cc4c03286.html)

All the Best to You Chris! I hope that you may catch an 80 one day!

"Once they did, the true measure of the monster became apparent - it was 54 inches long and had a girth of 32 inches. "

That fish was 58 lbs.. Does anyone know the girth on the 81 lb fish??

The worst thing about these threads is the effin holier than thou asshats just lurking along so they can pounce on whoever doesn't share their opinion. One in particular... Swear to God I've never seen him post anything positive about anything or anyone but himself and his inflated sense of the worth of his opinion... Stfu already..
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ok I will :hee:

:gh::soon:

ok I will :hee:

lol... not u boog...:love:

I know I was kidding LOL

lol... not u boog...:love:
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lol... not u boog...:love:

Not you - but while you're at it :devil2:

It's what we do, most of us anyhow. We go fishing with the hopes of getting a personal best, or just a decent time out. To me, it would be a BLAST getting a fish that size. I would feel very good, for sure! I would say, thank you Lord, and call it a day!:)

I know I was kidding LOL


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ok good... Feeling off kilter... Little break from SD.com may be in order...
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There's a 1/2 hour of my life I'll never get back....:rolleyes:

There's a 1/2 hour of my life I'll never get back.... I'm with you K-
I just read all 10 pages of this for the first time-
Wow

It's what we do, most of us anyhow. We go fishing with the hopes of getting a personal best, or just a decent time out. To me, it would be a BLAST getting a fish that size. I would feel very good, for sure! I would say, thank you Lord, and call it a day!:)


BEST POST YET!!!
:uhuh: - :uhuh:

Wow, quite the range of posts in this thread, but only time will tell if it gets certified, etc... Unfortunately the chatter will never end. Hell, McReynold's fish comes up at least once a year in disucssion as to what happened on that September night. There will always be speculation, theories and chatter around the eel tank, but only Greg knows for sure what really happened Thursday night. I for one hope it is all legit as I would love to see the record come home to Connecticut.

If history is going to repeat itself, we should all be hitting the surf between now and the night of 10/8/2012. Rocchetta's boat caught record only stood for 431 days before it was bested by a real (shore caught) fish... :uhuh: :rotf2: :fishin:

It's what we do, most of us anyhow. We go fishing with the hopes of getting a personal best, or just a decent time out. To me, it would be a BLAST getting a fish that size. I would feel very good, for sure! I would say, thank you Lord, and call it a day!:)
:)

I dont meant to stir the pot here, but i just read that this guy caught a 60 lber a few days before the 81 lber..

hmmmmmmmmm Makes you wonder. :angel:

I dont meant to stir the pot here, but i just read that this guy caught a 60 lber a few days before the 81 lber..

hmmmmmmmmm Makes you wonder. :angel:

Makes me wonder where he was fishing, and why was I not there.

I think the person who posted what i read is mistaken.. he did land a 60 in early july.. not in the same week.

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Striped Bass All-Tackle Record Challenged

News has spread quickly of Greg Myerson’s recent striped bass catch in Connecticut, USA as a potential contender for the All-Tackle title. As one would expect, this application is causing quite a buzz; if approved, Myerson’s catch would break a 29 year old record for one of North America’s most popular inshore saltwater species. Myerson’s application arrived at IGFA late last and the review process is now underway. Several IGFA staff, including the President,will review all materials and testimonies before making a decision; in the meantime, here’s a look at the record Myerson’s catch is challenging:

Current All Tackle Striped Bass Record

Angler: Albert McReynolds
Catch Date: September 21, 1982
Catch Place: Atlantic City, New Jersey, USA
Weight: 35.6 kg (78 lb 8 oz)

The application for the record has been filed. The process is underway. The fish will be judged. Congrats MR Meyerson...I think you did it right.

Eff Jerz!:smash:

Word is the fish,scale,tackle shop and angler have all been maligned by the OTW staff.The scale was recently certified by CT weights and measures and the fish is at NE taxidermy.

I stand by what I first posted the day it was caught...I believe he broke the record. He has caught too many big fish to fabricate a story, stuff a fish or do anything dishonest.

But all this stuff still means nothing if the fish isnt opened up and reweighed. The taxidermist will probably find nothing in the fish, but what does the fish weigh if theres nothing in it?

The fish has already been weighed on a scale that has been certified.Why would it have to be reweighed?People have to stop assuming wrongdoing here and let things unfold as they would in any other scenario.

The fish has already been weighed on a scale that has been certified.Why would it have to be reweighed?People have to stop assuming wrongdoing here and let things unfold as they would in any other scenario.

well said.

Too much jealousy for that. those that can't will always try to discredit those that do.

I'm glad the fish has been submitted... this should put it to bed for good.. as i said in my original ost.. helluva fish.. I'd like to shake his hand.

I will forever doubt it, unless the fish is gutted and checked. I dont know the angler, scale operator and most people on this board, so why would I trust random peoples judgment on it? So what if it was weighed on a certified scale, it could have been stuffed? Gut it at the taxidermist, see whats in there. Reweigh the entire fish and contents on a certified scale and see what you get. If the fish is around 80 pounds still, the record can solidly be confirmed. If the fish comes in at 50, it was a cheat as 30 pounds are missing from the equation.

This has nothing to do with jealousy, discredit or whatever. Its just common sense from my point of view, and I will never believe its true until its is actually proven true. So what if IGFA certifies it based on "the story" or looking at the outside of the fish? The fishing world is full of BS stories, exageration, blah blah - you really have to prove it true. If they can prove it true, yeah I couldnt be happier for the guy. Its cool to see the record go to someone who fishes all the time and can appreciate the accomplishment.

My opinion is that you gotta fish for yourself. If you try to "keep up with the Jones" you'll always be left miserable and empty.

LOL Well I've never seen China so I guess it isn't there LOL Oh thats right my oppinion really doesn't count as those in the appointed positions do have an oppinion that counts. If I don't like it then i guess that I need to get a job in one of those positions so my oppinion does count. LOL Sweet fish wish it were mine but I seem to loose the giants like that LOL

I hope that fish still has all it's scales, if not, that could raise more questions than it answers.

-spence

I am happy for the fellow and glad to see the previous record eclipsed(Which IMO was highly dubious!!! from everything I read, including "his own words")
That said I still think Tony S has the real bass record...boat bass don't (or should not) count.

One thing that bothers me though...there seems to be a lot of parallels the big fish caught now and the big fish caught in '81-82....a few big ones (records) in both cases with an extreme drop off in young populations...this is not looking good in my view for the future and I hope I am not the only one who is noticing this.

I will forever doubt it, unless the fish is gutted and checked. I dont know the angler, scale operator and most people on this board, so why would I trust random peoples judgment on it? So what if it was weighed on a certified scale, it could have been stuffed? Gut it at the taxidermist, see whats in there. Reweigh the entire fish and contents on a certified scale and see what you get. If the fish is around 80 pounds still, the record can solidly be confirmed. If the fish comes in at 50, it was a cheat as 30 pounds are missing from the equation.

This has nothing to do with jealousy, discredit or whatever. Its just common sense from my point of view, and I will never believe its true until its is actually proven true. So what if IGFA certifies it based on "the story" or looking at the outside of the fish? The fishing world is full of BS stories, exageration, blah blah - you really have to prove it true. If they can prove it true, yeah I couldnt be happier for the guy. Its cool to see the record go to someone who fishes all the time and can appreciate the accomplishment.

My opinion is that you gotta fish for yourself. If you try to "keep up with the Jones" you'll always be left miserable and empty.

it's called faith... faith in man kind that the majority of people have pure hearts and intentions... I'm glad I grew up in a time when a mans word was the gold standard... for better or for worse, I still believe in it... innocent until proven guilty.

I do agree with one thing.. and I preach it at seminars and to green horns as well as vetrans... be only concerned with what you can accomplish.. dont get caught up in with what others are doing or may have done...yesterday is the past.. tomorrow is a brand new day.

it's called faith...
It's also called process. The IFGA has a process they believe is trustworthy enough to warrant their accreditation. It's like a scientific fact, perhaps never 100% but close enough...

Don't be a doubter without reason, it will kill your fish karma :uhuh:

-spence

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it's called faith... faith in man kind that the majority of people have pure hearts and intentions... I'm glad I grew up in a time when a mans word was the gold standard... for better or for worse, I still believe in it... innocent until proven guilty.

I do agree with one thing.. and I preach it at seminars and to green horns as well as vetrans... be only concerned with what you can accomplish.. dont get caught up in with what others are doing or may have done...yesterday is the past.. tomorrow is a brand new day.

Great way to look at things.

I can't imagine what it's like to go through life with such a negative attitude that you have to doubt others and diminish their accomplishments. People who do that must be real fun to be around.:smash:

Don't be a doubter without reason, it will kill your fish karma :uhuh:

-spence

Reasonable doubt - that is what I have. I've yet to see a reason to completely prove it true, so until then I don't believe it given all the things that have happened on this one. More facts pointing toward its false than true.

The IGFA process isn't fact if they don't examine the fish. Its based on someone's claim and it may be true, may not be true. I put my 2 cents in on this one and have nothing more to add. I will not believe it until it goes through the gutting!

For better or worse gutting isn't part of the process for IGFA or OTW striper cup fish.Although I have been told OTW,like Rizzo,wanted to change the rules midstream. If you have ever seen the IGFA record book then you know they take things seriously. There are numerous line class records for every species. The IGFA is in possession of the leader allegedly used to catch this whopper and the decision will not come in haste. For guys like Rizzo there will never be the proof he hopes for. I would hope that any record,be it all tackle or line class would be submitted with honesty. Beyond that anything negative seems like sour grapes.There are enough cynics in the world to poison the well;they make the impression of a turd in the punch bowl.When you question a mans word it cant be taken lightly.

Reasonable doubt - that is what I have. I've yet to see a reason to completely prove it true, so until then I don't believe it given all the things that have happened on this one. More facts pointing toward its false than true.

what reasons have you seen that prove it to be false?

Don't take this the wrong way....But If I was the Angler, or IGFA for that matter.....I really wouldn't give a rats ass what somebody, who I've never met or is out on the internet, cares about the validity of the fish.

Would not lose one minutes sleep over it....:huh:

I would know....and thats good enough for me....

Yeah TDF, what would you do with sposorships and appearance fees,speaking engagements,etc. that go with IGFA validity?He should have put it back I guess.Skip the potential new boat and stay locked on S-B with all of your internet buddies debating how a flag should be displayed.Anonymity is good.

I think the person who posted what i read is mistaken.. he did land a 60 in early july.. not in the same week.

He caught a 61 in June, and then wieghed in a 61 a few days ago, on Aug 12.

I hope hes at striperfest so i can buy him a beer. :buds::tm:

For better or worse gutting isn't part of the process for IGFA or OTW striper cup fish.Although I have been told OTW,like Rizzo,wanted to change the rules midstream. If you have ever seen the IGFA record book then you know they take things seriously. There are numerous line class records for every species. The IGFA is in possession of the leader allegedly used to catch this whopper and the decision will not come in haste. For guys like Rizzo there will never be the proof he hopes for. I would hope that any record,be it all tackle or line class would be submitted with honesty. Beyond that anything negative seems like sour grapes.There are enough cynics in the world to poison the well;they make the impression of a turd in the punch bowl.When you question a mans word it cant be taken lightly.

Chris, any idea what difference the leader material will make???? Its gonna be an all tackle record once approved so I dont think it will matter. Its like the OTW Writer took a scale, well that will show the age of the fish, maybe 24 years or so, but in no way that determines the wieght. We all know that the wieght of any fish of the same length can vary greatly. The length to fork, length to tail and girth measurements they will use and am sure to a certain tolerance they will determine if there is anything way off. I am sure with all the controversey they will give a polygraph and if should pass will certify the fish. GM made a bold predictment on his facebook page a few months ago that the world record bass would fall this summer, boy was he right! (The Entire FB Page has been recently removed). I have seen and heard some very valid points made by some experienced anglers regarding this fish and previous fish, and I really dont think there is anything wrong with being a skeptic if there are discrepencies that raise questions. I know you may think otherwise but I did not make a single complaint to OTW prior to this WR Fish, I know there were quite a few complaints by others.

I ask some on the board, out of curiosity, Just by the natural scale of things, how many 40's do you have to catch before you catch a 50? Then how many 50's before you catch a 60? OF course anyone can get lucky and catch a wr, its a big ocean, but the probabilites of catching more 60's than 50's or 40's?

And not that it matters, but the fish is definately not at NE Taxedermy.

Yeah TDF, what would you do with sposorships and appearance fees,speaking engagements,etc. that go with IGFA validity?He should have put it back I guess.Skip the potential new boat and stay locked on S-B with all of your internet buddies debating how a flag should be displayed.Anonymity is good.

TDFs comments were aimed at Rizzo who was saying he wont believe it unless its cut open. I believe (and shouldnt speak for him) that DadF is agreeing with you. Its Myerson and the IFGAs thing to work out and they will not be concerned with what some people on the web may say.
Now relax and have a cupcake.

But all this stuff still means nothing if the fish isnt opened up and reweighed. The taxidermist will probably find nothing in the fish, but what does the fish weigh if theres nothing in it?

All this talk about reweighing a fish that probably has lost more weight already, question does anyone know if McReynolds had to or did have his fish opened up?

I will forever doubt it, unless the fish is gutted and checked. I dont know the angler, scale operator and most people on this board, so why would I trust random peoples judgment on it? So what if it was weighed on a certified scale, it could have been stuffed? Gut it at the taxidermist, see whats in there. Reweigh the entire fish and contents on a certified scale and see what you get. If the fish is around 80 pounds still, the record can solidly be confirmed. If the fish comes in at 50, it was a cheat as 30 pounds are missing from the equation.

This has nothing to do with jealousy, discredit or whatever. Its just common sense from my point of view, and I will never believe its true until its is actually proven true. So what if IGFA certifies it based on "the story" or looking at the outside of the fish? The fishing world is full of BS stories, exageration, blah blah - you really have to prove it true. If they can prove it true, yeah I couldnt be happier for the guy. Its cool to see the record go to someone who fishes all the time and can appreciate the accomplishment.

My opinion is that you gotta fish for yourself. If you try to "keep up with the Jones" you'll always be left miserable and empty.


In that case let's throw out the whole IGFA record book, hire some people you do know and start over.... :stir:

Yeah TDF, what would you do with sposorships and appearance fees,speaking engagements,etc. that go with IGFA validity?He should have put it back I guess.Skip the potential new boat and stay locked on S-B with all of your internet buddies debating how a flag should be displayed.Anonymity is good.

WOW....talk about totally mis-understanding what I wrote...unless you just want to argue for some reason. (that is so unlike you :rolleyes:)

My Point was.... If it were me I really wouldn't care that someone, that I don't know or never met, didn't believe me.....what does that matter to me.....I'd go for the record from IGFA and If I know what I did was right.....and they say I did it right....I'm not going to lose any skleep over some anonymous person doubting me.

You don't know me.....and I think you are an ass....do you care.....I'm thinking no.

now if a bunch of my flag-waving internet buddies also think you're an ass....well then that might be different.....then again probably not.

TDFs comments were aimed at Rizzo who was saying he wont believe it unless its cut open. I believe (and shouldnt speak for him) that DadF is agreeing with you. Its Myerson and the IFGAs thing to work out and they will not be concerned with what some people on the web may say.
Now relax and have a cupcake.


pretty much....although I wasn't really aiming it at Rizzo....I was really just trying to generalize it.

what reasons have you seen that prove it to be false?

The one thing that is definitely not proving it true is that the fish was not gutted and opened up. I can't understand why everyone is arguing that this isnt a big deal. Its the key to the whole story. I can't be any more clear about it. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Thats mine and I feel very strongly about it.

The certification and recertification of the scale, witnesses, pictures, ect. are all meaningless in that none can prove or verfiy the fish wasn't stuffed. How can you argue that?

All this talk about reweighing a fish that probably has lost more weight already, question does anyone know if McReynolds had to or did have his fish opened up?

Thats the beauty of this whole situation. Too late to prove anything now... unless it was gutted on the spot.

I read on SOL that it had a starfish in its gut

No, but its ifga's process and ifga's record. You have problem with their process. I can understsnd that but all their records have been consistently verified and on your view, all flawed
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He caught a 61 in June, and then wieghed in a 61 a few days ago, on Aug 12.

When is enough enough?

Please leave some for future generations Mr. Heman Fishkiller.

:-((
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All this talk about reweighing a fish that probably has lost more weight already, question does anyone know if McReynolds had to or did have his fish opened up?

Als fish was on display all day at a tackle shop for all to see, I Have a very good friend that saw the fish. The fish was cut and inspected but that is because berkely or some other manufacturer required that for $$$.

Here are a few photo's of the fish, You may have already seen them

Exclusive Photos: New Pending World Record Striped Bass! | Field & Stream (http://www.fieldandstream.com/photos/gallery/fishing/bass-fishing/where-fish-bass/2011/08/new-pending-world-record-striped-bass?photo=0#node-1001451179)

No, but its ifga's process and ifga's record. You have problem with their process. I can understsnd that but all their records have been consistently verified and on your view, all flawed
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Yeah - nothing against IGFA, they're recognized as the record authority, have a lot of experience handling situations like these. Thats just a flaw I see, especially when you're talking heaviest fish on record. The bigger tourneys that have to deal with big $$$ your subject to a lie detector test. I guess that if someone even provided a fish that hasn't been tampered with, its supposed to determine if you netted the fish or caught it before the tourney started. But lie detectors arent perfect...

I'd like to see the gutting be added to catches like this - but its not easy to make this change happen. I know many guys on this board are fine with the credibility of the catch, but i know just as many who do not believe it. It would really help someone gain credibility in this case.

As far as IGFA line class records go, thats a different discussion... :conf:

Als fish was on display all day at a tackle shop for all to see, I Have a very good friend that saw the fish. The fish was cut and inspected but that is because berkely or some other manufacturer required that for $$$.

Actually, it was x-rayed so that Al could collect prize money from Ande... acording to our wise silverback Mike P...

Actually, it was x-rayed so that Al could collect prize money from Ande... acording to our wise silverback Mike P...

Uh, no, I corrected the guy who said it was Ande. It was actually the old Garcia company, the one from Fairfield, NJ that imported Mitchell reels. ;) He's the one who started the X-ray argument. He implied that Al's fish had to be X-rayed to be accepted as the record--when I pressed him on it, he said it was to collect the reward.

If Ande offered rewards for world records caught on Ande line, we'd have all been fishing Stren--Ande would have gone bankrupt.

hahaha.. well there you go then. :)

WOW....talk about totally mis-understanding what I wrote...unless you just want to argue for some reason. (that is so unlike you :rolleyes:)

My Point was.... If it were me I really wouldn't care that someone, that I don't know or never met, didn't believe me.....what does that matter to me.....I'd go for the record from IGFA and If I know what I did was right.....and they say I did it right....I'm not going to lose any skleep over some anonymous person doubting me.

You don't know me.....and I think you are an ass....do you care.....I'm thinking no.

now if a bunch of my flag-waving internet buddies also think you're an ass....well then that might be different.....then again probably not.

Proof that people usually will resort to name calling when their debate has no merit.Well done wordsmith!

I wish you 2 would kiss and make up

I know you may think otherwise but I did not make a single complaint to OTW prior to this WR Fish, I know there were quite a few complaints by others.




I take your word for it , but you certainly did stir the pot :stir:
http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/stripertalk/65673-trophy-striped-bass.html

I also do see your point but it seems to come from your perspective. ya have to weigh everything, not just the negatives.

this thread = :deadhorse:

Dangles- Please elaborate on how OTW 'maligned' Myerson.
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I take your word for it , but you certainly did stir the pot :stir:
http://www.striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/stripertalk/65673-trophy-striped-bass.html

I also do see your point but it seems to come from your perspective. ya have to weigh everything, not just the negatives.

this thread = :deadhorse:

everyone should look at that link... :rtfm:

Dangles- Please elaborate on how OTW 'maligned' Myerson.
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It was on his Word-a-Day calendar......

Proof that people usually will resort to name calling when their debate has no merit.Well done wordsmith!

Did I miss something.....what were we debating?

I thought a debate was when two people take opposing sides of an argument.:huh:

I was on the same side as you.......but in the Magic mind of Dangles you just saw it as another opportunity to start some Internet Chit......You are a piece of work sometimes....you really are.

I guess that since the usual cast of characters that you like to "Internet Box" with aren't arguing with you these days...its my turn.

Hey, Guess what...just proves my point...

I don't Know You, Never met you.....and I really don't give a rats ass what you think.....I won't lose any sleep over it

Ironic......

I'll pay for the room if you take the bottom sweetie.

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Whats up with the DRAMA
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I'll pay for the room if you take the bottom sweetie.

No Thanx....I try and avoid Crazy Chicks at all costs...they are usually needy and nothing but trouble.

I'm thinking you got a little "Snookie" in you....

Then stop leading with your chin, you never know what might get on it.
But you would probably enjoy that.

Gave up Baby food a long time ago....

I read on SOL that it had a starfish in its gut

:rotf2::rotf2:

I LOVE IT!!!!
Flame Wars!! keep going. Come on, keep it up!:jump1::jump1::jump1:

Oh Boy~~! This looks like fun.

Back to the topic please, thank you...

:rotf2::rotf2:

i didn't see it on SOL, but i did see it here:

Angler Tells Story Of Catching Potential World-Record Bass - Greenwich, CT Patch (http://greenwich.patch.com/articles/angler-tells-story-of-catching-potential-world-record-bass-25)

good article by the way. i am not a doubter. congrats to the new WR holder...

oh, and this dangles vs. tdf 'tit for tat' stuff is great! LOVE IT! you guys are hilarious

Im so pumped to see fish like this taken. I was just speaking to a friend yesterday about it. Another die hard guy. Never even a mention about it being a hoax or weighted or this or that. Just 2 guys talking about a giant bass. Thats why I enjoy the friends I have...... High caliber. Just fish, never show pictures, never speak of spots, never travel in daylight hours and have class ..... People will always try to discredit someone who does better than them. I consider the source. Milk comes from a cow, fish come from the surf and Bullsh1t always comes from some ass. I say congrats.

IJust fish, never show pictures, never speak of spots,

Just have a TV show on the pursuit network instead, right :love:

penguins is practically chickenz. Anybody know where that quote comes from??

I just want a cupcake.

I Like Turtles

I Like Turtles:rotf2:

So Chris,

How did OTW "Make evil, harmful, and often untrue statements about; speak evil of" young Myerson?

Do tell
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isnt it turlltulls?

Ha ha .... Easy ! Thats my hunting! I think if I showed up with a camera to fish id be beaten beyond recognition.;)
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Cracks me up!!!!

penguins is practically chickenz. Anybody know where that quote comes from??

Chilly Willy The Hoboken Penguin - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maXBBQe1928)

You guys still talking / arguing about this fish, pathetic ..........

Will this be the never ending story, the last one was a source of controversy for close to 30 years. The only way it ended was someone caught a larger fish. I think:grins:

U all suck..................

TDF. How long did it take you to find that???

about 30 seconds.....:hee:

Every time I see a Penguin anywhere....that line pops into my head.

Pengooins Is Pracatically Chickens

THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST STUPIED /#^&#^&#^&#^&ED UP THREADS I,VE EVER SEEN ON SB.COM ;:smash:

IMO .....JR SHOULD JUST MAFE IT VANISH:wall:

Clammer, if you gotta problem with bugs, youz gotta problem with me. Now back to the nonsense.

From BD Outdoors Website:

And as far as his character goes, let me just relay a quick story about Greg and his love for fishing. As a high-school All-American linebacker, Greg was offered a full ride to play ball at a number of Division One colleges, including the famed football program at the University of Tennessee. He turned them all down and decided to attend the University of Rhode Island. The reason? He wanted to fish. He spent his free time chasing striped bass on every stretch of water from Point Judith to Little Narragansett Bay.

“If I told you how many hours I've spent fishing in that two-foot by two-foot space on my boat, you wouldn't believe me,” he says. “I'm not worried about money or anything coming from this fish, but I guess I'm not opposed to someone handing me some either,” he joked.

Hope everything goes well for this guy. Seems as though hes put in his time and deserves this fish. I can guarantee of some tourist caught on a Charter, he/she wouldnt be as "scrutinized" as this guy has been. If I caught the fish I would disappear to Cabo for 1-2 months, and nobody would hear from me either. Media can be brutal, not as bad as jealous fishermen though.

I just think its cool to know fish like that can be just a few feet from you in the darkness and we never know they are there. Thats why I fish. Never know what that bump in the night will bring.

I heard he had a banana on board too...

I heard he had a banana on board too...

Wow, word travels fast and far.:rotf2:

Read some of Cowhunters predictions on this thread to find out just how informed he is.