Stonington - State Environmental Conservation Police Officers have arrested two men Tuesday in Stonington on violations of marine fisheries laws, the state Department of Energy and Environmental Protection announced today.
Arrested were David J. Hochman, 45, of Orange, and John J. Warnock, 65, of Pawtucket, R.I. They were found in possession of 12 striped bass, which is eight fish (four per man) over the daily limit of two per person.
The officers, acting on a complaint, arrested the two men as they were attempting to offload the fish to a vehicle on Boulder Avenue. They had begun their fishing trip at the state-owned Barn Island Boat Launch, also in Stonington. They are scheduled to appear in New London Superior Court on Oct. 19.

Also has anybody seen the October RISSA newsletter? If u look under the RI dem arrests looks like they have been quite busy! I couldn't help but notice that there was a Rob Taylor arrested back in August for being well over his limit of SB? I recognize the name but is this the same Rob Taylor that used to fish the striper cup on team Striper?

Hochman is the S-B WR holder for spearfishing. Neeldess to say, the spearos aren't too happy right now about the negative press he is giving them. :smash:

RISSA
RT // AGE & LOCATION ARE ABOUT RIGHT :devil2:

season to taste and simmer for.......

http://www.risaa.org/newsletter/1011/1011_10.pdf
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25 no saltwater license citations!

Good for them. I wonder how many thier counterparts in Mass. have issued. I see nothing EPO's

From the names on that list of arrests, it looks like the RI DEM has been profiling.:devil2:

theres more than a few spots that i park at were the scuppers are taking everything in site, 5 gallon white buckets filled with scup the size of your hand.

ive called DEM a few times, these people have no respect for the sport or the areas they fish, trash everywhere, line, cigarette butts, etc.

these are the people who are going to cause us to lose access to great fishing spots. nevermind the damage theyre doing to the future of the sport.

From the names on that list of arrests, it looks like the RI DEM has been profiling.:devil2:

Picking on the Brockton people?
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theres more than a few spots that i park at were the scuppers are taking everything in site, 5 gallon white buckets filled with scup the size of your hand.

ive called DEM a few times, these people have no respect for the sport

Neither do the heavy hitters who poach bass...

Neither do the heavy hitters who poach bass...
Word.... respect level drops to zero.

Picking on the Brockton people?
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Are you saying that there are a lot of people from Brockton who may not understand the laws because they don't speak English so well?

That reminds me. I need to call your friend Arthur back today.

Is there any connection between the no-salt license citations and the beach/park/mgmt area citations?
Seems that they would go hand in hand, or at least influence each others' resulting citations, since most bucket-brigaders are known to drink and litter based on the complaints we hear on this site.

I hope it isnt the Rob Taylor from the striper cup. Its a pretty common name. I cant see anyone keeping over their limit of striper unless you are going hungry or profiting on them. Those are the two rationale i can see, not condoning by any means. I hope all that are caught receive more than a rosy welt mark on their wrists.

I know there are quite a few guys that fished with Rob Taylor on this board, curious to know if he falls under the new poaching laws in RI??? I believe the law was passed in July and he got arrested in August. From what I hear it was a substantial amount of bass, enough to make Big Al Blush!!!! I wonder why it was kept so quiet? I mean this was OTW's golden boy, sponsered by Quantum Reels. Will OTW step up and and strip him of any awards??? We are not talking Buckets of Scup here... I think first offense fine is in the thousands and possible jail time??????

I think first offense fine is in the thousands and possible jail time??????

Sounds good to me. Not sure if that applies to all or only the people that don't have lawyers. This sounds like a perfect place for mandatory minimums.

Let's not plan the blanket party until we find out it's THAT Rob Taylor.
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Let's not plan the blanket party until we find out it's THAT Rob Taylor.
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I assure you it is, lets not be nieve or ignorant here.....I believe Seadangles would of jumped on me within minutes of posting if it wasnt true, I hope that I am wrong, but my sources havent been wrong yet. I was shocked when I heard the news back in august and wouldnt of dared to post it until it was in black and white.. Besides, the average Bucket Brigade guy couldnt possibly catch what RT caught and come up with the genius scheme. This guy had Skillz! I mean the poundage, Undercutting dealers, any truth, were talking big $$$ not rock bottom prices... RISSA should fight to get "Their Law" enforced, yes? They fought hard to pass it... Did they backdate slips like they did with Burback, Big Alor was he special? The buds on here are quiet, not crying foul like with Big Al, burback, and team Striper member Sean... Maybe since they are cutting this guy so much slack they drop the charges on the others???

I read that as well. I do not know him personally nor do I know what happened regardless the legislation passed for a reason and I can not imagine a situation where there would be a grace period.

Whomever he is I sincerely hope he is punished to the fullest extent of the law. The dem botched the case on the dirtbag with the hydraulic table on his boat I hope they have learned to dot their I's and cross their T's
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I assure you it is!!!!!!!!!!! I believe Seadangles would of jumped on me within minutes of posting if it wasnt true, I hope that I am wrong, but my sources havent been wrong yet. I was shocked when I heard the news back in august and wouldnt of dared to post it until it was in black and white.. Besides, the average Bucket Brigade guy couldnt possibly catch what RT caught and come up with the genius scheme. This guy had Skillz! I mean the poundage, Undercutting dealers, any truth, were talking big $$$ not rock bottom prices... RISSA should fight to get "Their Law" enforced, yes? They fought hard to pass it... Did they backdate slips like they did with Burback, Big Alor was he special? The buds on here are quiet, not crying foul like with Big Al, burback, and team Striper member Sean... Maybe since they are cutting this guy so much slack they drop the charges on the others???


that's a lot of smack
I don't get half of the gossip you are speaking of but I guess that's the direction the site is going in these days ? :huh:
:hs:

I wonder why your sources bring this stuff up to you:devil2:

what does this accomplish

That is indeed 'the' Rob Taylor.

I wasn't there so I don't know the full story, but this is how it was explained to me:

According to RT himself he was bagged at the dock with four fish. He claims that he dropped off his bud earlier, but still had the fish when he was checked. That is all I know and won't pass judgement just yet. Now, If RT was actually caught with a whole mess of fish as implied above - well then that changes things.

How do I know this? I asked him.

that's a lot of smack
I don't get half of the gossip you are speaking of but I guess that's the direction the site is going in these days ? :huh:
:hs:

I wonder why your sources bring this stuff up to you:devil2:

what does this accomplish

Slip, its a small world, the guy got busted poaching, plain and simple, I assure u it was more than four fish... Yes, unfortunately I get alot of Gossip, I know alot of people up and down the coast. I got alot of heat with the meyerson thing but if people knew what I know they wouldnt be defending him... Anyway, back on topic, why everybody protecting this surf god? Where those fish caught off the surf to begin with in the OTW Striper Cup inquiring minds want to know... Guys were questioning that back then, sometimes putting the pieces of a puzzle arent that hard....4, 8, 10, 18 bass was it? End of season? back date slips sold in mass and man, we are at a level well above big all and his secret compartments, this guy actually made big $$$

That is indeed 'the' Rob Taylor.

I wasn't there so I don't know the full story, but this is how it was explained to me:

According to RT himself he was bagged at the dock with four fish. He claims that he dropped off his bud earlier, but still had the fish when he was checked. That is all I know and won't pass judgement just yet. Now, If RT was actually caught with a whole mess of fish as implied above - well then that changes things.

How do I know this? I asked him.


Even if it was just four fish, which it wasnt, guys cried on this forum about billy Major for being over limit prior to midnight on a comm night, band from all tourneys, think that was 2 fish... Why is nobody crying about a pro poacher? Braggining to tackle shops about how he was catchin 6-700 lbs a day in chatham when it was in newport???? date the slips, go by the new anti poaching law, or do they protect their own??????

u guys can keep 4 per man?

u guys can keep 4 per man?

Think it was 18 per man more or less if you are OTW surf angler of the year sponsored by Quantum....

I love this thread. Keep slinging the mud! I'll be checking in often. Very interesting stuff.
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The Rob Taylor who was cited by the DEM paid a fine of $193.50. He actually paid $360 more when he was arrested for not controlling his vicious dogs.

The Rob Taylor who was cited by the DEM paid a fine of $193.50. He actually paid $360 more when he was arrested for not controlling his vicious dogs.

Who let the dogs out? Who? Who?
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Who let the dogs out? Who? Who?
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That's what happens when you sneek beers into Lion Kings 3D.
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Rob Taylor hasn't fished the Striper Cup for years.
I heard he was caught with hand in the jar.
He used to work for Quantum....Sponsor? Ken is dumb.
Believes everything he hears.
I hope I am there if he ever gets the courage to confront Myerson in person.
Which he won't,trust me.
Loudmouth Jersey beyotch.
Snooki with a badge.

And let DEM punish / fine him as needed. Maybe a little extra exposure of high profile people will make a few others to stop poaching.

Ken, you are like a soap opera with this stuff. Every controversy and rumor, you are at the forefront. Dude - take your foot off the gas.

Rob Taylor hasn't fished the Striper Cup for years.
I heard he was caught with hand in the jar.
He used to work for Quantum....Sponsor? Ken is dumb.
Believes everything he hears.
I hope I am there if he ever gets the courage to confront Myerson in person.
Which he won't,trust me.
Loudmouth Jersey beyotch.
Snooki with a badge.

Is that what its called? "Caught with hand in the jar?" thanks for clearing it up, that explains everything, guess there is no truth to what I posted, I have to apologize for being dumb and with lack of courage, because I dont know what that is... Where is Al Stromski???? Got Pillz????

And let DEM punish / fine him as needed. Maybe a little extra exposure of high profile people will make a few others to stop poaching.

Ken, you are like a soap opera with this stuff. Every controversy and rumor, you are at the forefront. Dude - take your foot off the gas.

Yes, but is this rumor or controversy John??? It is in the RISSA Newsletter that I recieved the other day...... And John, I have been quiet for a while there!

No apology necesaary Ken.
It's not your fault.
Merely genetics...
Whiny beyotch

stay classy sea dangles

:rollem:

Yes, but is this rumor or controversy John??? It is in the RISSA Newsletter that I recieved the other day...... And John, I have been quiet for a while there!

THIS time was merely controversy Ken, Myerson was controversy and rumor.

I couldn't help but notice that there was a Rob Taylor arrested back in August for being well over his limit of SB? I recognize the name but is this the same Rob Taylor that used to fish the striper cup on team Striper?

I know there are quite a few guys that fished with Rob Taylor on this board, curious to know if he falls under the new poaching laws in RI??? I believe the law was passed in July and he got arrested in August. From what I hear it was a substantial amount of bass, enough to make Big Al Blush!!!! I wonder why it was kept so quiet? I mean this was OTW's golden boy, sponsered by Quantum Reels. Will OTW step up and and strip him of any awards??? We are not talking Buckets of Scup here... I think first offense fine is in the thousands and possible jail time??????

I assure you it is, lets not be nieve or ignorant here.....I believe Seadangles would of jumped on me within minutes of posting if it wasnt true, I hope that I am wrong, but my sources havent been wrong yet. I was shocked when I heard the news back in august and wouldnt of dared to post it until it was in black and white.. Besides, the average Bucket Brigade guy couldnt possibly catch what RT caught and come up with the genius scheme. This guy had Skillz! I mean the poundage, Undercutting dealers, any truth, were talking big $$$ not rock bottom prices... RISSA should fight to get "Their Law" enforced, yes? They fought hard to pass it... Did they backdate slips like they did with Burback, Big Alor was he special? The buds on here are quiet, not crying foul like with Big Al, burback, and team Striper member Sean... Maybe since they are cutting this guy so much slack they drop the charges on the others???

Slip, its a small world, the guy got busted poaching, plain and simple, I assure u it was more than four fish... Yes, unfortunately I get alot of Gossip, I know alot of people up and down the coast. I got alot of heat with the meyerson thing but if people knew what I know they wouldnt be defending him... Anyway, back on topic, why everybody protecting this surf god? Where those fish caught off the surf to begin with in the OTW Striper Cup inquiring minds want to know... Guys were questioning that back then, sometimes putting the pieces of a puzzle arent that hard....4, 8, 10, 18 bass was it? End of season? back date slips sold in mass and man, we are at a level well above big all and his secret compartments, this guy actually made big $$$

Even if it was just four fish, which it wasnt, guys cried on this forum about billy Major for being over limit prior to midnight on a comm night, band from all tourneys, think that was 2 fish... Why is nobody crying about a pro poacher? Braggining to tackle shops about how he was catchin 6-700 lbs a day in chatham when it was in newport???? date the slips, go by the new anti poaching law, or do they protect their own??????

Think it was 18 per man more or less if you are OTW surf angler of the year sponsored by Quantum....

Cowhunter clearly has an agenda and reeks of jealously. Yes, poachers should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, but my god you are like a little girl in high school. And no I do not know Robbie nor am I friends with him. Stick to filling your boat and taking pictures.

Cowhunter clearly has an agenda and reeks of jealously. Yes, poachers should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, but my god you are like a little girl in high school. And no I do not know Robbie nor am I friends with him. Stick to filling your boat and taking pictures.

Well, well organized and documented thought for a Hyde Park guy (I'm more or less from East Dedham :rotf2: - by DNA I'm supposed to hate you )

Unreal.., "Pro Poacher", "Vicious Dogs", "Genius Scheme" Nothing else to do on a friday night boys, but to schmere someones name on the internet. If you have something to say im sure he would welcome the call, or a home visit. Or at least get your facts straight, or at least know what your talking about.

Unreal.., "Pro Poacher", "Vicious Dogs", "Genius Scheme" Nothing else to do on a friday night boys, but to schmere someones name on the internet. If you have something to say im sure he would welcome the call, or a home visit. Or at least get your facts straight, or know what your talking about.

Please let me know if I am mistaken, maybe there is some sort of error on the RISSA newsletter? Did RIDEM go to far, I mean arrest somebody for 4 fish, maybe it is a bit overkill...
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Well, well organized and documented thought for a Hyde Park guy (I'm more or less from East Dedham :rotf2: - by DNA I'm supposed to hate you )

Impressive I know, but thankfully I am from Aquidneck Island just stuck in Hyde Park. Snooty Dedhamn folk with their fancy square and legacy place...pff. Never woulda pegged you for one of the them...:biglaugh:

Impressive I know, but thankfully I am from Aquidneck Island just stuck in Hyde Park. Snooty Dedhamn folk with their fancy square and legacy place...pff. Never woulda pegged you for one of the them...:biglaugh:

Hehehe - the only "Legacy Place" in East Dedham was the Old Mill Cafe or Bussey St Market - both closed :smash:

Please let me know if I am mistaken, maybe there is some sort of error on the RISSA newsletter? Did RIDEM go to far, I mean arrest somebody for 4 fish, maybe it is a bit overkill...
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It just seems to me by your persistance on this thread that this matter has really affected you personally. Rather than continue to fuel rumors, and accusations on the INTERNET you should give him a call and discuss the matters. Maybe it will give you some closure.

It just seems to me by your persistance on this thread that this matter has really affected you personally. Rather than continue to fuel rumors, and accusations on the INTERNET you should give him a call and discuss the matters. Maybe it will give you some closure.


Whats there to discuss? You either got caught poaching or you didnt, Found Guilty or not Guilty.

Whats there to discuss? You either got caught poaching or you didnt, Found Guilty or not Guilty.

Exactly. He was arrested for poaching. They documented and posted it. You decided to include it in your sermon and add comments that cannot be taken as fact. It certainly would be interesting to know the full story since he is an accomplished angler in our sport, but I certainly won't take anything an internet crusader tells me as truth simply because he says he has sources. Bassballer hit the nail on the head, you are personally affected by all of this for some reason. What's your angle broseph?

Sad to see a young man with a reputation as a good fisherman exposed as someone who lacks respect for the resource and other fishermen. The size of the fine seems unlikely to change his attitude as well. Some negative publicity and peer disapproval doesn't strike me as undeserved in a case like this.

Exactly. He was arrested for poaching. They documented and posted it. You decided to include it in your sermon and add comments that cannot be taken as fact. It certainly would be interesting to know the full story since he is an accomplished angler in our sport, but I certainly won't take anything an internet crusader tells me as truth simply because he says he has sources. Bassballer hit the nail on the head, you are personally affected by all of this for some reason. What's your angle broseph?

I have no angle, have nothing to benefit... Just curious as to why this was kept so quiet, after all this is the first person caught under the new poaching law in RI correct? I understand many of those that have fished with him will pile on me here since Robbie is a real good guy and "got caught with his hand in the jar".

We all poach at some time in our fishing careers. Most of us just don't get caught.
"Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone"

We all poach at some time in our fishing careers. Most of us just don't get caught.
"Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone"

You have to be out of your mind, Who is willing to go to jail for $2 a pound???

Assembly enacts stiff penalties for striped bass poaching

STATE HOUSE – Poachers beware: Rhode Island has new, stiffer penalties for those who catch more than the legal limit on striped bass, or try to bag those that are too small.
Under a bill passed by the General Assembly that has now been signed into law, the fine for violating striper limits in Rhode Island will increase substantially, and those caught could face prison sentences of up to 90 days as well as forfeiture of their boat and fishing equipment.
According to the sponsors of the new law, Rep. Peter G. Palumbo and Sen. Michael J. McCaffrey, the move brings the striper penalties in line with those for violating other game limits, and aimed at preventing poachers – whether fishing commercially or recreationally – from skirting limits for their own profit at the peril of the striper population.
“Striped bass are large, valuable saltwater fish, and there’s money to be made by those who catch them. And that’s good for Rhode Island, as long as people abide by the limits that are imposed to sustain the population,” said Representative Palumbo (D-Dist. 16, Cranston). “But the penalties we’ve had for stripers really aren’t a deterrent for those who want to ignore the rules and make a few bucks. Stripers are worth enough so that people are willing to risk getting caught.”
Under the new law (2011-H 5693, 2011-S 0972), which takes effect immediately, penalties for violating the limits on stripers will be at least $100 for each striped bass taken, possessed, or offered for sale, imprisonment for up to 90 days, or both. For the second violation, the jail time is the same, but the fines increase to at least $200 per fish, the state could seize any boat, fishing tackle or other implements used in violation of the law. And for third and subsequent offenses, the fine increases to at least $500 per fish in addition the 90-days jail sentence and forfeiture of the equipment used.
Previously, state law allowed a fine of only $50 per fish taken in violation, as well as a one-year suspension of the trap license of the person, firm or corporation involved.
Current recreational fishing limits on striped bass allow a person to catch up to two a day, and each has to be at least 28 inches long. For commercial licensees, the limit is 30 inches, although striped bass as small as 26 inches are allowed to be taken from floating traps, and there are further quotas and seasons.
The sponsors say the law isn’t aimed at the recreational fisherman who might unwittingly take home a fish that’s a bit too small; it’s meant to give the state a tool to shut down those who habitually flout the regulations, and to give those violators a strong incentive to stop breaking the law.
“The penalties for violating the striped bass limits need to be high because the market is such that a minor fine isn’t going to serve as a disincentive. For the health of our fisheries and the sake of sustaining the striped bass population for everyone for recreation and commercial uses, Rhode Island needs to deal seriously with poachers,” said Senator McCaffrey (D-Dist. 29, Warwick).

We all poach at some time in our fishing careers. Most of us just don't get caught.
"Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone"

I don't think we all have kept multiple large fish for illegal profit, although that may be an accepted mindset in some areas among some groups. It is a mindset that deserves to be stoned.

take your foot off the gas.



Exactly, Dude go have a beer or something. Your way to fired up.

.. Just curious as to why this was kept so quiet, after all this is the first person caught under the new poaching law in RI correct? .

Incorrect - the new law/fines went into effect AFTER this citation was Issued.
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Obviously the surf is Huge and the fishing is slow... Is this a pre-winter cabin fever thread.....

Wasn't it Mills Lane that said "Lets Get It On!"

:lurk::lurk::lurk:

I don't think we all have kept multiple large fish for illegal profit, although that may be an accepted mindset in some areas among some groups. It is a mindset that deserves to be stoned.

I'm not talking for profit. I am just saying that if there is one person on this site that has never taken a short fish , FOR WHATEVER REASON, or kept an extra fish for the cookout , then I don't believe them.

Ken is right,he is a good guy that did something wrong. I think if it were somebody who has a reputation as an a-hole there would be an internet pigpile. Ken just wanted to point it out to further tarnish the reputation of somebody he doesn't know and that is how Ken likes to roll. The only crime in Kens book that matters is the team he fished for in the past. I am sure some of his weasels from CT. pointed him in the right direction and said go get him. The scary part is this douche is a cop,which explains the rah rah disorder.So now Ken is satisfied because he threw some shat at the wall and some of it stuck.Trust me,the jealous weasels who made sure Ken knew about this have an inferiority complex as well as Ken.Poachers do so at their own risk and certainly nobody sympathises when they are caught. But to sensationalize the allegations like Kenny felt compelled to do is immature at best.If the shoe were on the other foot and this was Kenny,this thread would be 10 pages because he is univerally disliked by the fishing community. He knows this and seems to relish being the villain.I'm sure he is upset by the lack of participation. Ken, go enjoy your family, they love you.

Never kept a short fish..

never kept an extra fish. I keep one fish a year.

Hi Paulie I think it's almost winter :wave:

Lol. But I thought that you were the villain around here

Ken is right,he is a good guy that did something wrong. I think if it were somebody who has a reputation as an a-hole there would be an internet pigpile. Ken just wanted to point it out to further tarnish the reputation of somebody he doesn't know and that is how Ken likes to roll. The only crime in Kens book that matters is the team he fished for in the past. I am sure some of his weasels from CT. pointed him in the right direction and said go get him. The scary part is this douche is a cop,which explains the rah rah disorder.So now Ken is satisfied because he threw some shat at the wall and some of it stuck.Trust me,the jealous weasels who made sure Ken knew about this have an inferiority complex as well as Ken.Poachers do so at their own risk and certainly nobody sympathises when they are caught. But to sensationalize the allegations like Kenny felt compelled to do is immature at best.If the shoe were on the other foot and this was Kenny,this thread would be 10 pages because he is univerally disliked by the fishing community. He knows this and seems to relish being the villain.I'm sure he is upset by the lack of participation. Ken, go enjoy your family, they love you.
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The finding is that he got busted for poaching. Too many fish. I hope he never does so again and maybe this will be a wake up call for other that do stupid *#&$Q#.

This thread has gone beyond stupid.