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tradrodz 12-10-2011, 08:25 PM I'm looking for a 9' rod for next season for lighter stuff, bombers bucktails poppers sluggos etc. to plug the beach and breachways with. I was thinking along the lines of a GSB 1081 L or GSB 1081 M, I'd like something light enough to throw smaller baits but powerfull enough to turn a large fish. Would the GSB be a good choice? Also I will most likley be using this for the spring run in the Ct river (Enfield dam area) Please give me some input
Thanks, Matt
iamskippy 12-10-2011, 08:49 PM 81 L is a amazing rod. I have had other GSB'S as well and loved them. I dont think you could go wrong with that choice.
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chefchris401 12-10-2011, 10:11 PM was looking for the same thing, but im going to go with the century 10 ft, that saltheart is doing the rod building class with.
got to fish one in block, super light but lots of back bone, so thin i was worried about fishing it, but its incredible for lighter stuff and still managed to throw decent sized riggies, but redfins, northbars and ss needles are its bread and butter in my opinion.
I have two 9 ft rods now and rarely use them, so Ill get more use with the 10ft.
Rob Rockcrawler 12-10-2011, 10:24 PM Hijack alert, how is the century for throwing eels?
stripermaineiac 12-10-2011, 10:40 PM That GSB1081l is the balls. Love the thing for bass,blues an albies. Put a shimano stradic5000 or a small cabo with 20lb braid an you'll love the thing.Ive built 4 for me an my kids and many others . Fun rod with loads more powr than you'd think. fun to fish too.
Rob the Century's 10 ft 6 an 10 ft both work great for eels.The 11 is a bit heavy.
numbskull 12-11-2011, 08:04 AM Something to consider
I am a big fan of moderate action GSB rods and I've got a GSB 1081L and GSB 1081M, (as well as an XRA1083).......all wrapped conventional. I like them all. That said, however, I think you might do well to check out some faster action rods in the 9 foot range as well. I know Flap used a light 9 foot Loomis that always impressed me. I think both CTS and Century make 9 foot 2 piece blanks. There are also a couple of St Croix options I've not cast.
My thought here is that, when using spinning tackle with shorter rods and lighter lures, blanks with faster action than the GSB series give you better distance and fish handling mid-shaft power.
As I see it the real strength of the GSB rods is when you are throwing heavy stuff in difficult terrain using long rods, or when you want to throw a wide range of stuff with a single rod. Then their toughness, versatility, and comfort become major benefits that offset any loss of distance or lifting power the softer action causes.
That said, I am pretty sure you would be very happy with a GSB1081L wrapped as a light spinner. Just that there are plenty of other good options out there, too.
tlapinski 12-11-2011, 08:20 AM I used to detest 9' rods for anything except my spring fishing on the Connecticut River where a shorter rod is necessary. They each seemed to excel in one area, but fall short in others. I played around with several different blanks as I needed a rod for river fishing that was light enough to throw all night, could handle lighter stuff like unloaded redfins up through about 3.5 ounce pencil poppers, and still had the backbone to stop a decent fish in a raging current. The All Star 1088 was to fast for eeling, the old PacBay 1088 didn't have enough backbone for me, the gsb1081l didn't have the nut to turn anything over 20's in heavy current, and I broke 4 rainshadow 1088's. After trying a few different rods, I ended up wrapping a gsb1081m. I have taken fish to 38#'s on the rod without any trouble, yet it is light enough to throw all night and can toss Finnish swimmers just as well as it can throw a live eel or large pencil. I have beaten the crap out of the rod, and it just keeps on going. If you are looking for a great all around 9' blank, I highly recommend that one. I plan on wrapping a 9' St Croix Legend rated for 1 - 4 ounces this winter as I have heard nothing but praise for the similar 9' mojo. I really wish St Croix would start selling the Mojo blanks as it is tough to cough up the $$ for a Legend.
ivanputski 12-11-2011, 08:40 AM 9' rods are great and if you have the right one can be a great all-around rod, allowing you to throw lighter plugs, eels, 3 oz plugs all night and still have the backbone to turn a big fish. My personal best was on a 9' rod in a nor-easter. That said, I would recommend the GLB 108mh. You really cant go wrong with any of the mentioned rods, but I would honestly recommend finding people who actually have them, and talking a test cast with any rod you might buy. We all have different ideas of what an ideal action is, so buying strictly on someone else's opinion can be a costly mistake.
tlapinski 12-11-2011, 08:42 AM I would recommend the GLB 108mh.
Interesting tidbit, the gsb1081m & glb1081mh are the same exact blank. It's just Lami trying to pull a fast one over on us. :smash:
rockyroady 12-11-2011, 09:11 AM I remember a thread where a GSB 1201L cut from both ends was discussed. Supposedly good for light stuff and ballsy for large fish. At the time I told myself it would be my next rod.
ivanputski 12-11-2011, 09:54 AM Toby... That is interesting! I often wondered why no one I talk to has ever heard of the GLB! That blank rules
toaster816 12-11-2011, 10:07 AM I'm having a mb1083m built over the winter. Will be great for light bucktails, tins, redfins, bombers.
numbskull 12-11-2011, 11:36 AM Here is another option that might be worth a look if you want a light 9 foot rod. I have no experience with these blanks, but their rods in general get rave reviews on the west coast sites. Inshore Series : Phenix Rods & Accessories (http://www.phenixrods.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=4)
Here is another link. Lots of options, but no experience and their site doesn't tell you much about lure range.
http://www.mudhole.com/Shop-Our-Catalog/Phenix-Rods/Black-Diamond-Series
striperswiper75 12-11-2011, 03:51 PM I remember a thread where a GSB 1201L cut from both ends was discussed. Supposedly good for light stuff and ballsy for large fish. At the time I told myself it would be my next rod.
I have a GSB120L cut 3" at the tip and 3" at the base. I love that rod. It will throw a 6 inch bomber, a loaded redfin up to a 3oz 40 with relative ease. Also tosses a rigged or live eel well; and the whole time it has the ability to turn a fish in every instance I have come across. I plan on making another one this winter as a backup from the 120L blank.
I also built a couple 9' rods on the Lami GLB120-2MH blank. I didn't really get a chance to use them much in the surf this year, but did get to use them in the Housy in April and May. It threw bombers ok, sluggos and juniors slightly better. I didn't take any large fish on it but it seemed to have plenty of backbone.
fcap60 12-11-2011, 04:17 PM I have 2 GSB 108 1Ms (spin and conventional).
I'l looking to trade off the spin and pick-up a 108 1L for the reasons you posted (lighter lures, bucktails, etc) and I would also consider something in the 8` range.
The 108 1Ms are really nice for eels and plugs in the 2oz and up range, but I'm looking for a "lighter rod"
pbadad 12-11-2011, 05:13 PM I have 2 GSB 108 1Ms (spin and conventional).
I'l looking to trade off the spin and pick-up a 108 1L for the reasons you posted (lighter lures, bucktails, etc) and I would also consider something in the 8` range.
The 108 1Ms are really nice for eels and plugs in the 2oz and up range, but I'm looking for a "lighter rod"
You tired of catching "BIG FISH" LOL
tradrodz 12-11-2011, 05:49 PM Thank's for the advice, my GSB 1201m is an awesome stick! thats why I was thinking along the lines of a GSB 1081l but if this thing has no balls in heavy current I'm probably gonna go with the GSB 108M and a Stradic 5k or something along those lines. I appreciate your feedback.
Thank's Matt
Clogston29 12-12-2011, 03:28 PM gsb1081m is a great blank. what tlapinski said above is pretty much right on. great for plugs from 1 to 4 oz, live eels, small riggies, rigged sluggos, etc.
rickhern 12-13-2011, 01:09 PM Interesting tidbit, the gsb1081m & glb1081mh are the same exact blank. It's just Lami trying to pull a fast one over on us. :smash:
Same blank but the glb used to be priced $10 or $15 less:biglaugh:
Mudhole also sells the exact same blank with their name on it for around $60 I believe and mudhole's warranty is better than Lami's.
zimmy 12-13-2011, 02:09 PM Interesting tidbit, the gsb1081m & glb1081mh are the same exact blank. It's just Lami trying to pull a fast one over on us. :smash:
They rate the glb 3 1/2. I threw 3 1/2 on my gsb all the time. Everything else about them is identical, diameter, tip, weight etc. I have not ever been able to verify they are the same, but I can't find anything that can disprove they aren't. As an aside, my favorite rod to fish LIS or anytime I don't need to land 40lbs in current is the glb961mh. Awesome small rod. Don't even kow if they make it anymore though.
zimmy 12-13-2011, 02:21 PM I have 2 GSB 108 1Ms (spin and conventional).
I'l looking to trade off the spin and pick-up a 108 1L for the reasons you posted (lighter lures, bucktails, etc) and I would also consider something in the 8` range.
The 108 1Ms are really nice for eels and plugs in the 2oz and up range, but I'm looking for a "lighter rod"
If you want lighter the glb 961mh is great. The 1081m is not a bear by any means, but the 961mh is even lighter and I like it much better for smaller bucktails, sluggos, yozuri darters, red fins, 1oz little neck poppers and alot of the other lures I fish. I have landed several 35lb range fish in the rivers here in the spring on it. I almost never fish my 1081m anymore since if I am throwing rigged eels, bigger lures or need even more backbone, I go to my 1205 cut to 9 1/2. For Matt's purposes, the 1081m is a great choice. If you have a 1081m, but actually want lighter and smaller spinner, but still strong enough for big fish, the 961mh is ideal.
Saltheart 12-13-2011, 02:36 PM Big Difference between a GSB 1081L and the GSB 1201L. The 1081L is a light rod for stuff like bombers from the beach. The 1201L is much more rod. Its my opinion that people way underestimate the capabilities of the GSB1201L.
agsurfr 12-13-2011, 04:10 PM I have a 9' Mojo rated 1-4. Fast rod, pretty stiff, concept guide layout, very light weight. Bought the rod because it was a good deal, not because I needed a 9' 2 pc. Didn't even take the tags off for 4 months. When I finally decided to put a reel on it, I fell in love the first night out.
I'd say 4oz is a little ambitious but I can throw 3 oz without issue. Not my first choice for live eels, but it's been great everywhere else. Landed a few good fish in some nasty, rocky surf, no problems. Nice rod, nice warranty, price is acceptable.
my 2 cents
Saltheart 12-13-2011, 06:48 PM Forgot about the CSB 108 2M. 2piecer though. There is also the XRA 1084
tradrodz 12-14-2011, 11:52 AM Sorry for the newbie question but the CSB is a Lami correct? also does Lami still make the GLB blanks? I never really see them around, how hard would one be to come by? Thanks again
stripermaineiac 12-14-2011, 12:20 PM Now that's the right question to ask. Gonna be a trickto find someone that still has some.
tlapinski 12-14-2011, 12:48 PM Sorry for the newbie question but the CSB is a Lami correct? also does Lami still make the GLB blanks? I never really see them around, how hard would one be to come by? Thanks again
The glb1081mh is a "special order" blank in that they have to remove the gsb1081m sticker and replace with the glb sticker. You want to just order a gsb blank, and most shops selling rod building supplies carry it.
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tradrodz 12-14-2011, 01:02 PM Gottcha, Thanks Toby
Saltheart 12-14-2011, 01:47 PM Yes , CSB is a lami. It combines Graphite and glass layers. Some guys love the feel the two types of fibers give the blank.
GSB--Graphite Surf and Bar
CSB--Composite Surf and Bar
I absolutely LOVE my GLB-1081mh for plugging and riggies. This is the rod that usually gets the nod on any given night for me.
BUT, in my honest opinion it is a terrible live eel stick. It casts them pretty poorly, and I've dealt with loosing quite a few eels to "cast offs". If the rod needs to double duty as a plug and live eel rod, go in a different direction. If you're married to the idea of a 9', a GSB-1201L or even an M cut from the ass makes a great eel/plug combo rod.
Redsoxticket 12-14-2011, 06:26 PM SSU1201L cut 1ft from the bottom makes excellent bomber type rod. It is versatile where it loads cast bombers, redfins and weighted stick baits as small as about 1/2 oz up to and loading 2 3/8 SS littlenecks. I've casted AH spook type lure 2.75oz with no problem. I did not push beyond this weight but could be possible. The rod is slightly crisp making for longer cast with less effort then a GSB
series.
Eels cast decent with little effort a few tear offs that were user fault such a skinny diameter hooks, braid, not hooking the eel correctly and casting like a mad man.
Did I say it is very light.
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just throwing this out there as another solid option. Not sure if they still make em, but GLoomis 1084S. 1-3oz. It's a factory rod and the grip tape is a little rough, but this is a tough rod. It's perfect for Finnish swimmers, rigged slug-gos, SS and Gibbs needles and eels. its only rated to 3 but I threw 3oz dannys and pencils consistently with no problem. Didn't catch any monsters on it, but caught a lot of fish between 20-28#s with the biggest going 32.( TO was with me when I caught a 28 and then another time when I got a 31 from a boulder field). Fished the rocks and an inlet with it. I wouldn't fish it in a bway though, almost got spooled at Q one Nov.but I'm pretty sure a seal took one of the 15 pound blues I was catching. And you can't beat GLoomis' warranty. Just throwing that out there as another alternative.
piemma 12-15-2011, 08:07 AM just throwing this out there as another solid option. Not sure if they still make em, but GLoomis 1084S. 1-3oz. It's a factory rod and the grip tape is a little rough, but this is a tough rod. It's perfect for Finnish swimmers, rigged slug-gos, SS and Gibbs needles and eels. its only rated to 3 but I threw 3oz dannys and pencils consistently with no problem. Didn't catch any monsters on it, but caught a lot of fish between 20-28#s with the biggest going 32.( TO was with me when I caught a 28 and then another time when I got a 31 from a boulder field). Fished the rocks and an inlet with it. I wouldn't fish it in a bway though, almost got spooled at Q one Nov.but I'm pretty sure a seal took one of the 15 pound blues I was catching. And you can't beat GLoomis' warranty. Just throwing that out there as another alternative.
I have a 9' GLoomis that Dave hammock wrapped for me at Murats in 93. Pencil thin and light as a feather biggest fish was a 44# but that was a Ballston on sand. I have caught hundreds of fish on this rod and never had an issue. Had the cork tape and 2 guides replaced 3 years ago.
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