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Fly Rod
08-05-2013, 09:41 AM
Prices probably will not be good this year because of the yen being worth about a 1/3rd less then last year at this time and theJapanese R not offering big prices ....the domestic market is flooded with tuna...most fish being caught around Maine....some fish being landed here on Cape Ann....once this season has passed there should be some good deals on tuna reels etc:

thefishingfreak
08-06-2013, 11:59 AM
Gee Could be the 60 giants the seiner just brought in :huh:
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buckman
08-06-2013, 12:07 PM
$10 on a good fish. Seems like the same as always
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Typhoon
08-07-2013, 05:59 AM
Gee Could be the 60 giants the seiner just brought in :huh:
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97 with more on the way.

This is starting to be publicized so I won't be the first. Seiner made a set on small fish yesterday Killed hundreds of rats.

jasonsnova
08-08-2013, 02:29 PM
97 with more on the way.

This is starting to be publicized so I won't be the first. Seiner made a set on small fish yesterday Killed hundreds of rats.

who is seiner and how can they be legally killing all these fish big and small???
I miss something?

PRBuzz
08-08-2013, 02:39 PM
One of those might have been MY rat for 2013!

Typhoon
08-09-2013, 07:59 AM
Diane Marie.

Made a mistake. Set on small fish, thinking there was big fish underneath. Realized there was no big fish. Dumped the net back and the bag folded over on itself killing all of them. To the bottom they go.

Multiple witnesses, pictures video.

MakoMike
08-09-2013, 08:07 AM
They should redesign the net so that the purse can be opened if necessary.

jasonsnova
08-09-2013, 08:38 AM
thought bft was harpoon/handline/rod&reel only??

thefishingfreak
08-09-2013, 09:10 AM
The seiners still have a quota and these dead rats are just a few pounds against the by catch allowance. http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y250/thefishingfreak/7AD8EB64-FE5F-476B-9EC3-0C40391446E5-179-000000D362020FA6_zpsda5b2e83.jpg
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Raider Ronnie
08-09-2013, 10:11 AM
On the flip side of the coin, tuna weren't worth #^&#^&#^&#^& prior to the seiners getting into the game years ago ?
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Mr. Sandman
08-09-2013, 01:57 PM
I heard all about this. I know it is a mistake but it is criminal. You just can not have kills like this. It can not happen, ever. I heard that they could not open the net and they all died. Why did they set in the first place on small fish? ...IMO, that's it, your done. your lic is permanently revoked forever and you are done fishing for a living, good day.

Are all these dead fish coming off the quota?...it should.

spence
08-09-2013, 03:18 PM
Interesting, reading online looks like this story is just a repeat...same fish, same place, same boat.

-spence

Nebe
08-09-2013, 03:58 PM
Thats the commercial mentality. Set on small fish with the hopes of high grading and tossing back the small fish.. Sad wasteful and totally greed based.
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MakoMike
08-10-2013, 08:52 AM
Thats the commercial mentality. Set on small fish with the hopes of high grading and tossing back the small fish.. Sad wasteful and totally greed based.
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Not so Eben, they aren't even allowed to keep the small fish, so if they deliberately set on them all the work they have to do is for nothing. Someone just made a stupid mistake.

Raider Ronnie
08-10-2013, 12:23 PM
Some should look up the history of the commercial tuna fishery.
It's the seiners who created the market and prior to them getting into the game, tuna wasn't worth crap.
Sold for cat food back on the 70s & early 80s.
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spence
08-10-2013, 02:04 PM
Some should look up the history of the commercial tuna fishery.
It's the seiners who created the market and prior to them getting into the game, tuna wasn't worth crap.
Sold for cat food back on the 70s & early 80s.
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Created the market or rose to meet market demand? Big change in the 80's was a huge rise in global sushi consumption.

-spence

Raider Ronnie
08-10-2013, 03:53 PM
Spence.
You should stick to commenting on what you know.
Designer shoes and clothes.
Talk to any older commercial tuna fisherman and they will educate you.







Created the market or rose to meet market demand? Big change in the 80's was a huge rise in global sushi consumption.

-spence
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spence
08-10-2013, 04:15 PM
Spence.
You should stick to commenting on what you know.
Designer shoes and clothes.
Talk to any older commercial tuna fisherman and they will educate you.


Ah, I guess you didn't get the "?" at the end of my sentence. It's a fairly well accepted symbol that's used when someone is asking a question.

-spence

Raider Ronnie
08-10-2013, 05:43 PM
Ah, I guess you didn't get the "?" at the end of my sentence. It's a fairly well accepted symbol that's used when someone is asking a question.

-spence



Next time use proper spacing and I will notice the ? question mark.

Mr. Sandman
08-11-2013, 06:16 AM
I don't think they created a market for tuna but I am sure they would like to tell you they did.

Look I have nothing against comm fishing but we have a horrible system of management and enforcement of regulations. Every comm guy out there will tell you everything is fine but that is only because they don't want any change that could effect their bottom line.

We can not have this kind of mass kill, ever. The bottom line is this guy should be done comm fishing for ever. And they need to look at the risks and harm of this method of fishing can do to the fishery long term. IMO it should be prohibited as I think it causes all kinds of unknown problems when you wipe out a large group of fish like that in a single swipe. We just witnessed what one of the other risks are when someone makes a mistake...whoopse! I just killed 1000 fish by mistake...my bad.
This can not happen. Personally I can not believe it is not getting more attn than it is.

Fly Rod
08-11-2013, 08:46 AM
The japanese created the market....before they got into buying tuna UUUUUUU were lucky to get a nickel per lb.and at times U could not get a penny so U took them back out and dumped them.

niko
08-11-2013, 09:09 AM
the evergrowing thirst for sushi will be the demise of this species. maybe we can get them to love dogfish sushi

Piscator
08-11-2013, 07:50 PM
I love my sushi = Salmon, Brown Rice, Spicy Sauce!!! Less mercury too.
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Typhoon
08-12-2013, 10:36 AM
My old man took two to the dump in the 70s.

Guppy
08-12-2013, 11:17 AM
Day after the CC tuna tournament early 70's outside Barnstable harbor, #1 ?,,, catch and release dead, they got some good pictures though :devil2:

MakoMike
08-12-2013, 11:54 AM
Maybe PEW should use some of their megabucks to buy up those four remaining boats?

Raider Ronnie
08-13-2013, 06:43 AM
The japanese created the market....before they got into buying tuna UUUUUUU were lucky to get a nickel per lb.and at times U could not get a penny so U took them back out and dumped them.




Prior to the seiners how often were fish from this part of the world shipped to Japan ?

Fly Rod
08-13-2013, 08:19 AM
Prior to the seiners how often were fish from this part of the world shipped to Japan ?


I know that they were shipping tuna to japan in the 60's

Typhoon
08-13-2013, 08:30 AM
Update from yesterdays japanese auction.

At least 10 of the fish from the seiner are worthless. All burnt up from their malfunction in the net. Boat isn't going to get sh1t.

Such a waste.

thefishingfreak
08-13-2013, 11:58 AM
maybe that will make them tie it back up to the dock and go golfing

MakoMike
08-16-2013, 09:22 AM
From the Gloucester Times at http://www.gloucestertimes.com/local/x1750260991/Sizes-up-landings-down-for-tuna-fleet

The bluefin tuna season is in full swing, and the early returns are a mixed study, with good news regarding the size of the available fish against lower numbers of actual fish landed.

Scientists at the University of Massachusetts’ Gloucester-based marine research center and at least one local tuna seller agree that the anecdotal and statistical realities so far in the 2013 season indicate lower catch rates than in years past.

The good news, however, is that those lower catch rates seem to be offset by larger fish swimming in larger schools than the industry has seen in the past few years.

“The availability of really big fish seems to be higher than the last couple years,” said Molly Lutcavage, director and research professor at UMass’ Large Pelagics Research Center at Hodgkins Cove. “That’s confirmed by the fact that one of the purse seines made their first multiple set since probably 2004.”

Lutcavage said spotter-plane pilots also have reported seeing “much larger schools of large fish” than they have in years.

“That perspective is from multiple pilots flying over larger areas,” Lutcavage said.

The evidence that this year’s stock includes larger fish also was strengthened by the fact that one local tuna captain recently hauled in a bluefin that weighed 920 pounds, as confirmed in an earlier email to The Times from P.J. Mead, owner of Compass Seafood in Gloucester, a primary grader, processor and seller of tuna.

That prized fish was hauled in on a charter trip by Capt. Kevin Leonowert, whose boat The Huntress is part of the “Wicked Tuna” fleet featured on National Geographic TV’s acclaimed reality series.

“This year the overall size is bigger,” Mead said Wednesday. “We’ve been averaging over 300 pounds already, and that’s sure to increase as the season continues.”

Mead said the population of larger fish this year might speak to the migratory nature of the tuna.

“They do swim all over the different oceans,” Mead said.

Lutcavage concurred, saying researchers now have evidence of tuna tagged in the Gulf of St. Lawrence off Canada in 2011 entering the Gulf of Maine in June and July.

While the size is up, the number of catches appears to be down, said both Lutcavage and Mead.

“The harpoon numbers especially are down from last year,” Mead said. “One of the reasons is we had a lot of poor weather in June and July.”

The most recent figures from NOAA’s National Marine Fisheries Service show preliminary commercial landings in the 2013 season of 110.4 metric tons in the general category, with harpoon landings at 11 metric tons and the purse seine landings at 14.3 metric tons.

The NMFS figures show that the longline north and south categories are closed, with 24.6 metric tons and 33.7 metric tons landed, respectively. The longline category has landed 1 metric ton in the Northeast Distant restricted area.

In 2012, according to the NMFS, there were 456.2 tons landed in the general category, with 17.2 metric tons in the harpoon category, a total of 89.5 metric tons landed in the longline categories and 1.7 metric tons in the purse seine category.

Mead said this season has produced varying quality of tuna, which has led to wide spectrum of wandering prices.

“Every given day is different, every fish is different,” Mead said. “We’ve had some very strong prices in Japan, as high as $27 or $28 per pound return to the boats. Those are the best of the best.

“We’ve had plenty of $5 and $10 [per pound return to the boats] fish, as well.”

spence
08-17-2013, 09:33 AM
Next time use proper spacing and I will notice the ? question mark.

I couldn't even have conceived a response such as this.

-spence

thefishingfreak
08-19-2013, 03:29 PM
I couldn't even have conceived a response such as this.

-spence

Remember kids, punctuation is important!

It's the difference between helping your uncle Jack, off a horse.
and
Helping your uncle jack off a horse.

Raider Ronnie
08-19-2013, 07:57 PM
Remember kids, punctuation is important!

It's the difference between helping your uncle Jack, off a horse.
and
Helping your uncle jack off a horse.





Didn't you just buy a pony :eek::eek:

spence
08-19-2013, 08:18 PM
Didn't you just buy a pony :eek::eek:

Where's the question mark with extra space ?
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thefishingfreak
08-19-2013, 08:31 PM
Where's the question mark with extra space ?
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:hee:
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Raider Ronnie
08-20-2013, 06:41 AM
Where's the question mark with extra space ?
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Go back to your Obama blow up doll.
And the sein boat can keep doing what they are doing.
Nothing wrong with tuna prices for good fish.

spence
08-20-2013, 07:01 AM
Go back to your Obama blow up doll.
And the sein boat can keep doing what they are doing.
Nothing wrong with tuna prices for good fish.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/oddsmakers-say-oakland-raiders-a-long-shot-to-fini,33539/
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Raider Ronnie
08-20-2013, 09:05 AM
Ya, my Raiders will most likely suck again this year just like your boy Obama.




http://www.theonion.com/articles/oddsmakers-say-oakland-raiders-a-long-shot-to-fini,33539/
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