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Jim in CT 01-07-2020, 06:59 PM Multiple sources saying that missiles from Iran are attacking multiple US-held stations in Iraq.
Could get really, really ugly. I really didn’t think they’d do it.
Got Stripers 01-07-2020, 07:13 PM Hey we have a TV show host, a real estate bankcruptcy icon, someone who loves golf more than governing in charge; what could possibly go wrong.
Jim in CT 01-07-2020, 07:23 PM Hey we have a TV show host, a real estate bankcruptcy icon, someone who loves golf more than governing in charge; what could possibly go wrong.
again, obama’s national
security advisor said if they had
been given the opportunity to kill
this guy, they would
have seriously considered
it. She didn’t say “hell
no, only a reality show
con man would have done that.”
Just a little fairness GS. That’s all. Obviously there’s a huge downside to what we did. But there’s also a potential downside to doing nothing. There is no simple, obvious answer.
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Got Stripers 01-07-2020, 07:36 PM Jim other presidents listening to ALL intelligence, they listened to ALL the foreign ambassadors had to say, this clown has for years said our own intelligence community is all part of a deep state coup and we have seen how much credence he gives our dedicated ambassadors; sorry I think this is Truml being Trump.
The stupid game has begun. Prepare to win all the stupid prizes.
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Jim in CT 01-07-2020, 07:43 PM i agree with you that now all of a sudden trump
is
listening to the deep state is laughable. that doesn’t mean killing this guy wasn’t the right thing to do.
When Iran was acting up
with their navy, when they attacked saudi oil/airfields, Trump showed restraint, but warned them
all bets were off if they killed
americans. then they killed
american.
I remember when obama
warned Assad about a red line if he used chemical
weapons, Assad wasn’t deterred and don’t fave any consequences.
Some bullies don’t respond to pleas.
I’m not saying Trump
made the right call, I don’t know enough. But it’s nit as simple as saying it had to
be stupid because Trump
did it.
How did he clobber Hilary in the electoral ( the only measure that matters), if he’s such a buffoon? he destroyed the most inevitable
candidate in decades. Reduced her to a laughingstock, peddling books at Costco.
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Got Stripers 01-07-2020, 07:55 PM A drone for a drone, a military equivalent loss back then made sense, to me this timing is so suspect, it reeks of a Nixon redo.
wdmso 01-07-2020, 07:56 PM Al asad is a huge base was there for 6 months most troop housing are not harden
had 3 120mm rockets with no targeting system land within 100 yards from our Tent. Very sobering.
These missile are a different animal targeting ability and payload ..
There are no indirect fire defense on these bases that I am aware of
a 2nd wave of missiles could create a bigger issue for those on the ground trying to help or seek cover
Jim in CT 01-07-2020, 08:00 PM Al asad is a huge base was there for 6 months most troop housing are not harden
had 3 120mm rockets with no targeting system land within 100 yards from our Tent. Very sobering.
These missile are a different animal targeting ability and payload ..
There are no indirect fire defense on these bases that I am aware of
a 2nd wave of missiles could create a bigger issue for those on the ground trying to help or seek cover
fingers crossed.
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Al asad is a huge base was there for 6 months most troop housing are not harden
had 3 120mm rockets with no targeting system land within 100 yards from our Tent. Very sobering.
These missile are a different animal targeting ability and payload ..
There are no indirect fire defense on these bases that I am aware of
a 2nd wave of missiles could create a bigger issue for those on the ground trying to help or seek cover
I won’t be surprised if there are hundreds killed by this. This makes me sick.
Rats get fat while brave men die.
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Jim in CT 01-07-2020, 08:03 PM Al asad is a huge base was there for 6 months most troop housing are not harden
had 3 120mm rockets with no targeting system land within 100 yards from our Tent. Very sobering.
These missile are a different animal targeting ability and payload ..
There are no indirect fire defense on these bases that I am aware of
a 2nd wave of missiles could create a bigger issue for those on the ground trying to help or seek cover
i just heard no casualties as of now. makes all the prior BS seem so insignificant. a sincere happy new year to you, hope
you’re on the mend big time.
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i just heard no casualties as of now. makes all the prior BS seem so insignificant. a sincere happy new year to you, hope
you’re on the mend big time.
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Man I hope you are right
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wdmso 01-07-2020, 08:11 PM i just heard no casualties as of now. makes all the prior BS seem so insignificant. a sincere happy new year to you, hope
you’re on the mend big time.
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If there are no us forces killed it gives Trump a chance (make fun of the response failure) and sit back , but sadly his tough guy tweeter feed may bite him
Jim in CT 01-07-2020, 08:11 PM Man I hope you are right
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me too. i wonder why they picked
this base, there are major bases
much closer to iran.
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Got Stripers 01-07-2020, 08:14 PM They want to show their reach my guess, I also don’t think this is anywhere near over and this was a show of what is coming.
Jim in CT 01-07-2020, 08:20 PM i think if
no one is killed, trump can let
it slide, but make it clear the next time
an american is killed by Iran, they can kiss their oil
good bye and try their hand at selling solar panels door to door.
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Got Stripers 01-07-2020, 08:37 PM i think if
no one is killed, trump can let
it slide, but make it clear the next time
an american is killed by Iran, they can kiss their oil
good bye and try their hand at selling solar panels door to door.
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Have you ever since a Trump let anything slide?
i think if
no one is killed, trump can let
it slide, but make it clear the next time
an american is killed by Iran, they can kiss their oil
good bye and try their hand at selling solar panels door to door.
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No way. I imagine b-52’s are already on their way to Iran.
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Jim in CT 01-07-2020, 09:12 PM Have you ever since a Trump let anything slide?
this is your hatred getting the best of your brain. Trump
has shown restraint, like when in September, Iran attacked a Saudi oil facility. He let it slide when they shot down a US drone. Are you saying Iran has never done anything provocative since he took office?
Id be happy to try to change the tone of the rhetoric around here. You gotta meet me halfway sometimes.
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Jim in CT 01-07-2020, 09:13 PM No way. I imagine b-52’s are already on their way to Iran.
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i wouldn’t bet a nickel against that. I’m just hoping.
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Sea Dangles 01-07-2020, 09:58 PM No way. I imagine b-52’s are already on their way to Iran.
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Playing all the hits for the troops
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JohnR 01-07-2020, 10:42 PM Looks like crisis averted, so situation normal (Iran stirring #^&#^&#^&#^& up) will continue, though hopefully a little less effectively.
I have lots of questions but I am OK with Earnest Will Part Deaux not taking place
But wAit...
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/08/boeing-737-passenger-plane-crashes-in-iran-state-news-agencies-report.html?__source=sharebar%7Cemail&par=sharebar
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Sea Dangles 01-07-2020, 11:11 PM Trump blew up a Ukrainian plane🙀
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Doubt it. But bad timing
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scottw 01-08-2020, 03:22 AM The stupid game has begun. Prepare to win all the stupid prizes.
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good description of this thread and the nuts flying off the handle again....
scottw 01-08-2020, 06:24 AM No way. I imagine b-52’s are already on their way to Iran.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNwC0sp-uA4
Jim in CT 01-08-2020, 06:42 AM Only because no one was killed, it could be a win for Trump if he gives Iran one chance to de escalate.
Interesting to me they picked
this particular base. There are bases closer to iran that have more americans. if they wanted to kill americans, why not attack those bases? any chance iran wanted to appear tough, but not go so far as to force Trump into retaliating? Or is there already a guarantee he’ll hit back? Politically, he’s better off if this ends now. I don’t know if he cares about that. And it only works if Iran backs off.
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scottw 01-08-2020, 07:11 AM any chance iran wanted to appear tough, but not go so far as to force Trump into retaliating?
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well, if you are a high ranking iranian official you now know that if you kill Americans you are likely to get a hellfire missile in your ear...so what do you think?
Jim in CT 01-08-2020, 07:42 AM well, if you are a high ranking iranian official you now know that if you kill Americans you are likely to get a hellfire missile in your ear...so what do you think?
i think they tanked the response on purpose. no reason to target that base if the goal was to kill
americans.
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JohnR 01-08-2020, 08:19 AM We'll probably find that the 737 was hit by Antiaircraft fire / local Air Defense systems.
They would have been pretty much weapons free last night.
Question two: why is this always happening to Ukrainians and Malaysians?
wdmso 01-08-2020, 11:56 AM Trumps news conference nothing but blaming Obama, same line on Fox ...:rotflmao:
At least the pause button has been pushed ,
Punting to NATO?
Oil independence won't shield America from oil prices if that region goes up in smoke
The Myth of U.S. Energy. Independence
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/09/18/the-myth-of-u-s-energy-independence-has-gone-up-in-smoke/
Duke41 01-08-2020, 11:58 AM Glad Trumped killed the son of a bitch. Let the Iranians save a little face. I am sure none of those #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s will be stirring up the pot in Iraq for a while.
Got Stripers 01-08-2020, 12:15 PM The proxy’s haven’t had their revenge yet and Iran’s attack while our guys are bunkered and with advance notice to Iraq, was just political for the locals; see we retaliated. Now it will be business as usual and the proxy’s will be the ones to watch out for.
Sea Dangles 01-08-2020, 12:27 PM Thank you for that astute prediction
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Got Stripers 01-08-2020, 12:33 PM Thank you for that astute prediction
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A child with a middle school education could make that prediction, which of course probably rules out Trump.
Got Stripers 01-08-2020, 12:34 PM We'll probably find that the 737 was hit by Antiaircraft fire / local Air Defense systems.
They would have been pretty much weapons free last night.
Question two: why is this always happening to Ukrainians and Malaysians?
Don’t know if the news feed on Boeing stock tanking after this was accurate, was this a Max?
Don’t know if the news feed on Boeing stock tanking after this was accurate, was this a Max?
Negative
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JohnR 01-09-2020, 09:17 AM The proxy’s haven’t had their revenge yet and Iran’s attack while our guys are bunkered and with advance notice to Iraq, was just political for the locals; see we retaliated. Now it will be business as usual and the proxy’s will be the ones to watch out for.
1) This was not just political. Iran managed to hit specific support buildings at the Al Assad base that would normally be populated. The thing that saved lives was getting people into bunkers and luck.
Don’t know if the news feed on Boeing stock tanking after this was accurate, was this a Max?
Not a Max.
We will see that this jet was shot down by Iranian Air Defence
Got Stripers 01-09-2020, 09:26 AM 1) This was not just political. Iran managed to hit specific support buildings at the Al Assad base that would normally be populated. The thing that saved lives was getting people into bunkers and luck.
Not a Max.
We will see that this jet was shot down by Iranian Air Defence
We are going to need a lot more if it's just luck, because the proxy's haven't had their revenge yet and they are likely to be more apt to serve that dish up cold.
Jim in CT 01-09-2020, 12:34 PM 1)
We will see that this jet was shot down by Iranian Air Defence
Our government is now saying exactly that.
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JohnR 01-09-2020, 03:57 PM Our government is now saying exactly that.
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And our Gov is correct. It will still be Trump’s fault. We have entered into BizzaroWorld and closed the door behind us
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Got Stripers 01-09-2020, 05:14 PM John tell me Everything that has happened since Trump pulled out of the treaty and then assassinated a top state General would happen had he done neither
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detbuch 01-09-2020, 05:33 PM John tell me Everything that has happened since Trump pulled out of the treaty and then assassinated a top state General would happen had he done neither
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But if the treaty had not been made, none of this would have happened. Of course, if Mohammad had not . . . oh well, the butterfly effect has no actually known beginning.
Jim in CT 01-09-2020, 06:30 PM John tell me Everything that has happened since Trump pulled out of the treaty and then assassinated a top state General would happen had he done neither
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because iran was a peaceful, productive ally right up until
trump pulled out of the treaty.
Solemaini was either a terrorist, or at best, an enemy combatant. For the third time, susan rice said
on tv that if they had been given their opportunity to kill him easily i’m Iraq, they would
have seriously considered it. it wasn’t a kooky thing trump
did.
i have bad news for you, this is all a yuuge win for trump. other than saying obama’s cash paid
for the missiles they #^&#^&#^&#^& at us, which is stupid. Other than that, it might have been the best week of his presidency.
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Got Stripers 01-09-2020, 06:49 PM Your funny 😂
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JohnR 01-09-2020, 07:29 PM People are reporting this video was the Ukraine 737
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1BuhXcTaiY
John tell me Everything that has happened since Trump pulled out of the treaty and then assassinated a top state General would happen had he done neither
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I will tell you that a lot of things that have happened in Tehran since 1979 suck royally.
Jim in CT 01-09-2020, 10:34 PM Your funny
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You have no idea how right you are, I'm hilarious. But I'm not blinded by hate.
Trump killed a guy even you said needed to be taken out, we paid no meaningful price, Trump advocated for "peace through strength", and imposed new economic sanctions. Iran looks incompetent. Trump appeared thoughtful and reflective in not responding militarily to Iran's missile strikes, as many thought he would.
The liberals come off as siding with Iran over Trump. An exaggeration, sure, but not that far off.
You have Chris Murphy and Joe Biden completely contradicting themselves, saying the opposite of what they had said before, because they hate Trump.
And the markets are up.
You're right, Trump really took it on the chin. How shall he recover?
Got Stripers 01-10-2020, 07:05 AM You have no idea how right you are, I'm hilarious. But I'm not blinded by hate.
Trump killed a guy even you said needed to be taken out, we paid no meaningful price, Trump advocated for "peace through strength", and imposed new economic sanctions. Iran looks incompetent. Trump appeared thoughtful and reflective in not responding militarily to Iran's missile strikes, as many thought he would.
The liberals come off as siding with Iran over Trump. An exaggeration, sure, but not that far off.
You have Chris Murphy and Joe Biden completely contradicting themselves, saying the opposite of what they had said before, because they hate Trump.
And the markets are up.
You're right, Trump really took it on the chin. How shall he recover?
Very naive to assume there was or will be no meaningful price to pay, you have no idea what revenge the proxy’s are planning. I’m also sure the families of the 170+ who lost their lives or those trampled to death will sleep better knowing you are so empathetic over their loss. Please don’t assume I’m siding with Iran, what I’m expressing is frustration that Trump continues to make stupid moves in foreign policy. Several weeks back Iranians were protesting their government, now they have united to protest the US and once again you are just tied to your only real argument, because the market is good life is good.
Meanwhile your guy is getting ready to face probably the first trial he hasn’t been able to buy his way our of, although at times it appears most in the senate are in his pocket. The environment looks to be about to take another hit courtesy of his short sighted policies. Ironic the organization he claimed was a joke he now wants help from to clean up the mess he just created, I’m sure the NATO members are anxious to rush in to help such a trustworthy and loyal member.
Hard to see the forest through those trees isn’t it!
scottw 01-10-2020, 07:07 AM Very naive to assume there was or will be no meaningful price to pay, you have no idea what revenge the proxy’s are planning. I’m also sure the families of the 170+ who lost their lives or those trampled to death will sleep better knowing you are so empathetic over their loss.
Please don’t assume I’m siding with Iran
it just keeps getting better
scottw 01-10-2020, 07:10 AM Several weeks back Iranians were protesting their government, now they have united to protest the US
this is incredibly dumb
Jim in CT 01-10-2020, 07:23 AM got stripers, youre right, i don’t know what the proxies are planning. And you don’t know what Soleimani was planning, right? He can’t hurt anyone else.
You yourself said the guy deserved to be killed. susan rice herself said that if the obama administration had the same opportunity, they would
have seriously considered
it.
so if you’re saying that killing this guy wasn’t worth the risk, of course you’re entitled to that opinion. And i can’t prove you wrong.
But most of america, especially most of
america excluding the coasts, agrees with trump.
Trump said clearly that any future violence against americans
by iran’s proxies, will be responded to with brutal force. He showed Iran he means that. will
they listen? who knows. If they don’t, they can probably kiss an oil field good bye.
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scottw 01-10-2020, 07:32 AM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tkc6he96nZk&fbclid=IwAR15aGnA4uz2QZpv7B8vijhko1FBpbCK6DLaFi8T-t-NqMugBDvO00rygz8
Jim in CT 01-10-2020, 07:32 AM The environment looks to be about to take another hit courtesy of his short sighted policies.
Huh? Can you elaborate?
When Obama had Bin Laden
killed, it was logical to believe that Al Queda would retaliate. I bet you didn’t express that concern. And while Al Queda isn’t Iran, they had
killed more americans than iran. so retaliation was still a concern. But Obama bragged about is ( as he should have), and his disciples loved him for it.
Just a little consistency would
be nice.
But what environmental disaster did Trump single-handedly cause
today?
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Huh? Can you elaborate?
But what environmental disaster did Trump single-handedly cause
today?
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He opened his mouth.
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Got Stripers 01-10-2020, 04:21 PM More deregulation to allow companies to cut, drill, frak, whatever you want, no impact studies, no more red tape, no worries have at it.
scottw 01-10-2020, 04:28 PM He opened his mouth.
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that was funny :rotf2:
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