Yes it has worked well. Just like Biden planned.

The U.S. has surpassed 1 million new confirmed coronavirus cases in just the first 10 days of November.
And from the administration?

Bupkis
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The U.S. has surpassed 1 million new confirmed coronavirus cases in just the first 10 days of November.
And from the administration?


Yes Operation Warp Speed has worked well. Just like Biden planned.

Operation Warp Speed vastly sped up the total process.

Stupid handling of covid vastly sped up Trumps exit from government.

Stupid handling of covid vastly sped up Trumps exit from government.

I have to commend you. You're very consistent. You can be depended on to say stuff.

Yes Operation Warp Speed has worked well. Just like Biden planned.

I don't think biden is capable of moving at any speed., never mind warp speed..very reassuring that this guy might be leading our fight against covid:hihi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1byHpkSmYc

Hey Scott
Get some sleep
You’re going off the rails.
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So what did he not push? He was extremely forthright in implementing policies which obviously indicated to anybody with a brain that he took it seriously. His public statements did not reflect that

That is not true. His public statements announcing the implementation of policies exactly "reflected" what he was doing.

And you didn't answer what was in the "playbook" that you say he did not push.

As for his supposedly "downplaying" it, everybody did, including the WHO, the Dems, the Press, Dr. Fauci, which obviously includes those who would know as much as Trump about the severity. No, Trump never was the leader in the fight against Covid-19.

That was not a coherent response to what I said. Nevertheless, there were many times he led--travel ban, putting together a task force, etc. There were various people responsible for leading in their sphere of responsibility.

Even Biden in those early days warned us not to panic about the virus. Perhaps he made the incorrect assumption that this administration was acting in the best interest of the American people, not Tweety's reelection campaign.

Perhaps? Right, you cannot know what was actually in the head of either Biden or Trump. Normally, one would suppose that a politician like Biden would not act in a way that would agree with an opponent he wanted to remove from office. Your "perhaps" conjecture is counterintuitive to the degree that it looks ridiculous.

Anyway, doing what the American people think is in their best interest is one of the more reliable ways of winning an election. So Trump's political self-interest would correlate with the people's interest.

Obviously, you need to believe that Trump's effort to avoid panic was the sole responsibility for our death total, even though he was criticized for his early travel ban, He was criticized for not doing enough and thinking that just sort of closing a border would be enough

Being criticized for not doing enough doesn't make it so. Especially in politics when criticism is more often a means to harm an opponent rather to help him. Didn't notice much friendly helpfulness coming from Biden and the Dems. And Trump did a lot more than the travel bans.

and that Dems were saying that it was OK to gather in groups without masks or social distancing. The Democrats were following the guidance of Tweety's agencies, that you sometimes claim he was in charge of and other times say they were totally independent.

The agencies were supposed to be the experts. Fauci, who downplayed the virus, was supposed to be an expert. The head of the WHO who downplayed the virus was supposed to be an expert. So, in your opinion, all those "experts" were allowed to downplay the virus, but Trump wasn't?

And I didn't say the regulatory agencies were "totally" independent. I said they had executive, legislative, and judicial power, and are expected to operate independent of constant direction, but there is congressional, presidential, and ultimately SCOTUS power to discipline or overturn their decisions. However, that rarely happens and the Court almost always defers to their presumed expertise.

You latch on to that notion like a dog with a bone--with the same lack of thought that the dog would employ. But that is a generous characterization. The more insidious truth is that you know what you are doing.

Meanwhile, you repeat the party line.

Currently the Con man in the White House is financing his career after this with arms deals to the UAE. Odd that deal was the day he fired Esper and put Miller and Tata in.

If I repeat a party line, that is not my intention. My opinions may well concur with the party line. Yours don't seem to be particularly original and do concur with the Dem and leftist media line.

And you have yet to point out how Trump did not follow the Playbook. Nor have you pointed out how infallible the Playbook is. All you do is say he didn't, then as some supposed evidence you merely link to the Playbook without showing us where in it Trump was lacking. Maybe you didn't read it.

And as I previously said, Biden and Obama pointed out the part of the playbook that Trump supposedly did not follow. But what they deceptively pointed to were not made by the "playbook" to be federal mandates, but recommendations for local community action. And that many communities had implemented those recommendations.

I read most of it. Though it was difficult because of the jargon and constant referral to several unfamiliar alphabet agencies which I had to look up, I did get a basic understanding.

And there is not so much direct action to be taken, especially not by the President, there are a lot of questions that should be asked by the various agencies. And, as I pointed out, the two direct actions listed in the "playbook" for POTUS, Trump did.

The Breitbart article I linked, amidst a lot of commentary on the "playbook," said this, which is what I also found in reading it: "Thus while the Biden campaign has suggested otherwise, the playbook itself admits that there is no magical plan for containing pandemics, and that policymakers would have to learn and adjust over time — which Trump has done."

Very, very, importantly what I noticed in much of the first part of the "playbook" is a lot of reference to the host country in a pandemic, and the need for coordinating efforts with it. Much of the success against a virus would rest on that cooperation.

The host country in this case, China, absolutely refused to cooperate with the rest of the world. It withheld critical information. Created misinformation. And deliberately quarantined its people while permitting travel from infected areas to the rest of the world but not telling anybody about what was possibly coming their way.

If the "playbook" can point to a culprit in this pandemic, it is not Trump. It is China. Yet Trump haters gloss over that, if mentioning it at all. They let the culprit off the hook and politically pin the blame on someone they have desperately, in so many ways, without cease, tried to destroy. And their guy who is about to be President, and his son, got a lot and has a lot of money coming from China.

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Troll on


Pitiful.

my defense of Trump is Pitiful.

Fixed

Fixed

The Dems fixed the election for Biden. (We can go back and forth with this silliness as long as you like.)

If you stand in front of the American people and praise Xi’s response, when the National Security team is saying “he’s not your good friend” (stupid) then you have a hard time blaming Xi for your failure to act, especially when you pulled your people on the ground out.
Just keep believing
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If you stand in front of the American people and praise Xi’s response, when the National Security team is saying “he’s not your good friend” (stupid) then you have a hard time blaming Xi for your failure to act, especially when you pulled your people on the ground out.
Just keep believing


Not hard at all. China was responsible to the rest of the world, not just the U.S., to cooperate truthfully and immediately in the case of something like a novel corronavirus. China is the culprit in the spread and severity of the virus.

That's not a matter of my belief. What I do believe is that they failed to do what they were supposed to do, and purposely let the virus spread--around the world, not just the U.S.

Trump’s mindless handling of almost everything insured the election win for Biden. (We can go back and forth with this silliness as long as you like.)

Ok

Ok

Biden is obviously mindless.

Trump show is tanking like the apprentice, but foil hatters continue to watch, go figure. He might find a way to make some money if he started his own wine brand.

Trump coronavirus adviser Scott Atlas urges Michigan to 'rise up' against new Covid-19 measures.

How about telling Americans to Mask up against new COVID spikes ..
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Trumps administration refusing to start to work with the incoming Biden team, especially on the health crisis and security briefings endangers American lives. Still think he is looking out for all Americans, it’s all about him as it has been his entire life.
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Trumps administration refusing to start to work with the incoming Biden team, especially on the health crisis and security briefings endangers American lives. Still think he is looking out for all Americans, it’s all about him as it has been his entire life.
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So much for America 1st Nothing comes before Trump
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Joe Biden has a coronavirus team...Trump’s team has coronavirus. That’s everything we need to know.

Seems Republicans in the White House Trumps Family. The secret service the senate and the house will have herd immunity before the Nation. It must be a sign of strength and they will wear it like a badge of Honor

President Trump was following my condition and cleared me for the monoclonal antibody therapy that he had previously received, which I am convinced saved my life," Carson wrote
Kam happy for him and his family
But
Is this ethical?

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Obviously if you’re a good boy and behave we’ll take care of you. Especially if you’re the house........,,,..
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At some point we should look at whether Sweden's experiment ind heard immunity worked out
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At some point we should look at whether Sweden's experiment ind heard immunity worked out
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we should go back and look at a lot of what was said and speculated too:uhuh:

"Back in May, just after COVID-19 spiked across America, President Trump made a bold prediction about a coronavirus vaccine.

"We're looking to get it by the end of the year if we can, maybe before," Trump said May 14 in a White House Rose Garden event.

The next day, he wrote on Twitter: "Vaccine work is looking VERY promising, before end of year."

The mainstream media didn't like that prediction, not one little bit.

"But experts say that the development, testing and production of a vaccine for the public is still at least 12 to 18 months off, and that anything less would be a medical miracle," NBC News wrote May 15 in a "fact check."

NBC also sought comment from Dr. Stanley Plotkin, credited with inventing a rubella vaccine in 1964. "In the best of circumstances, we should have a vaccine — or let's say vaccines — between 12 and 18 months," Plotkin said.

Meanwhile, FactCheck.org investigated reports that Trump said in September a vaccine would be ready "by the end of the year."

Trump said in a Labor Day press conference. "What I said is 'by the end of the year.' But I think it could even be sooner than that. It could be during the month of October, actually. Could be before November."

"We looked through Trump's past comments on a vaccine, and did not find any cases in which he declared a vaccine would definitely be available by October or November," FactCheck.org wrote on Sept. 11 in a piece headlined, "Trump Exaggerates Progress."

"But he has suggested that the earlier time frame is even more likely. Experts and governmental officials disagree with that assessment."

Then there was CNN, which wrote a piece in August headlined, "Fact Check: Will there be a coronavirus vaccine by November?"

"Nothing is certain, and Trump's optimism might be crushed in the coming months," CNN wrote. "Some experts warn against throwing out specific dates and timelines. 'I think it's very dangerous at this point to give specific dates,' former Surgeon Gen. Dr. Vivek Murthy told CNN's Wolf Blitzer ..."

Slaoui said on CNN's "State of the Union." "On the 11th or the 12th of December, hopefully, the first people will be immunized across the United States, across all states."

How about telling Americans to Mask up against new COVID spikes ..


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dear wayne...I bet more people are wearing masks more often than were wearing masks back in May....but somehow covid is surpassing May numbers by quite a bit....especially in states with democat governors who can, apparently, do whatever they deem necessary to protect their populations so why haven't these democrat governors and wanna-be democrats like baker stopped the spread of covid in their respective states???

The earlier the vaccine is approved, the better - right?

dear wayne...I bet more people are wearing masks more often than were wearing masks back in May....but somehow covid is surpassing May numbers by quite a bit....especially in states with democat governors who can, apparently, do whatever they deem necessary to protect their populations so why haven't these democrat governors and wanna-be democrats like baker stopped the spread of covid in their respective states???

Agin you don’t see this a failed leadership From Trump and many Republicans,

so let me make this easy 50% if not more of those 74 million who voted have the odd idea in their head planted by Trump that the election was stolen due to mass fraud based on no evidence, based on Just what Trump told them, these same people think masks don’t work that their an infringement on their rights
And COVID just like the flu So being asked to social distance or limit gathering in your home is seen in the same light ,

It’s kind a hard to. Just say it’s every place or increased testing are the reasons it’s exploding .

so basically if Trump could convince his followers of fraud he could have done the same with everything COVID but he did not and others followed his lack of leadership SD Governor seems to playing the same Trump card

You keep using terms like prevention why make a suggest that’s isn’t factual ? when the plan is and has always been about mitigation and the list below shows were these were applied and followed the positive rates are lower

SD positivity rate 24%
RI 6%
Ma 3.5 %

Wyoming: 58.9 percent positive

New daily cases: 1,262

Tests per 1,000: 2.6



South Dakota: 44.1

New daily cases: 783

Tests per 1,000: 2.8



Iowa: 43.1

New daily cases: 3,128

Tests per 1,000: 2.2



Idaho: 40.1

New daily cases: 1,437

Tests per 1,000: 1.9



Kansas: 38.2

New daily cases: 7,707

Tests per 1,000: 2.5



Pennsylvania: 25.4

New daily cases: 6,800

Tests per 1,000: 2



New Mexico: 23.9

New daily cases: 2,252

Tests per 1,000: 5.3



Missouri: 22.6

New daily cases: 3,533

Tests per 1,000: 3.3



Alabama: 22.2

New daily cases: 1,574

Tests per 1,000: 2



Utah: 19.6

New daily cases: 2,244

Tests per 1,000: 5.4



Montana: 18.7

New daily cases: 701

Tests per 1,000: 6



Arizona: 18.5

New daily cases: 2,659

Tests per 1,000: 2.7



Mississippi: 18.2

New daily cases: 699

Tests per 1,000: 2.4



Oregon: 16.3

New daily cases: 1,163

Tests per 1,000: 1.8



Ohio: 15.9

New daily cases: 11,885

Tests per 1,000: 4.5



Wisconsin: 14.9

New daily cases: 3,455

Tests per 1,000: 7.4



Tennessee: 14.9

New daily cases: 4,074

Tests per 1,000: 3.6



Nevada: 14.1

New daily cases: 2,339

Tests per 1,000: 4.7



North Dakota: 13.6

New daily cases: 714

Tests per 1,000: 11.8



Arkansas: 13.4

New daily cases: 1,017

Tests per 1,000: 4.2



Oklahoma: 13.4

New daily cases: 3,544

Tests per 1,000: 5.7



Minnesota: 13.3

New daily cases: 6,343

Tests per 1,000: 8.7



Nebraska: 12.7

New daily cases: 1,860

Tests per 1,000: 9.3



Indiana: 11.9

New daily cases: 5,556

Tests per 1,000: 7.8



Michigan: 11.4

New daily cases: 11,943

Tests per 1,000: 6.5



Illinois: 10.9

New daily cases: 8,322

Tests per 1,000: 8.2



Kentucky: 10.6

New daily cases: 2,132

Tests per 1,000: 6.4



Colorado: 10.1

New daily cases: 3,689

Tests per 1,000: 8.5



Texas: 9.8

New daily cases: 6,251

Tests per 1,000: 3.7

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-covid-19-test-positivity-rates-july-14.html


How is Trumps border wall so much different than a mask?

Is it built to prevent illegal immigration or to slow illegal immigrants
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So if Trump came out back in March and said let’s lock #^&#^&#^&#^& down and everybody must wear a mask, the 77 milllion that didn’t vote for him would have just unquestioningly said “That’s a great idea, I’m gonna do it” :rolleyes:
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So if Trump came out back in March and said let’s lock #^&#^&#^&#^& down and everybody must wear a mask, the 77 milllion that didn’t vote for him would have just unquestioningly said “That’s a great idea, I’m gonna do it” :rolleyes:
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Most were already doing it.. pay attention

Trump never cared about those 77 mil and still dosnt. Covid or voting hes attacked both . Heas aFake American
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So if Trump came out back in March and said let’s lock #^&#^&#^&#^& down and everybody must wear a mask, the 77 milllion that didn’t vote for him would have just unquestioningly said “That’s a great idea, I’m gonna do it” :rolleyes:
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If he had come out in his first COVID presser and demonstrated a few basic hygiene requirements (I assume you know them) and said we’re going to use the guidance, science, blah blah, He would have been re-elected.
That’s the opposite of what he did.
He didn’t need 77 million only around 3.5.
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Trump never cared about those 77 mil and still dosnt.
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please explain why trump has advcoated for, and celebrated, the following:

lowest black unemployment ever
school choice
criminal justice reform
increasing funding for black college creation of economic opportunity zones
doubling the standard deduction on income taxes
expanding child tax credits on income taxes

think about who benefits the most from those things. and tell me why trump advocated for them, please?
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Most were already doing it.. pay attention

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Nobody was doing it back in March, get a calendar, or a clue.

The CDC recommended masks in April.

“The wearing of non-medical face masks in public to lessen transmission of COVID-19 in the United States was first recommended by the CDC on April 3, 2020 as supplemental to hygiene and appropriate social distancing.”

If you remember correctly, there was a mask shortage in March.
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Nobody was doing it back in March, get a calendar, or a clue.

The CDC recommended masks in April.

“The wearing of non-medical face masks in public to lessen transmission of COVID-19 in the United States was first recommended by the CDC on April 3, 2020 as supplemental to hygiene and appropriate social distancing.”

If you remember correctly, there was a mask shortage in March.
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boy are they comfortable
revising history to fit their TDS needs. it’s as if trump himself had all the masks and respirators in february and refused to share because he’s a sociopath.
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please explain why trump has advcoated for, and celebrated, the following:

lowest black unemployment ever
school choice
criminal justice reform
increasing funding for black college creation of economic opportunity zones
doubling the standard deduction on income taxes
expanding child tax credits on income taxes

think about who benefits the most from those things. and tell me why trump advocated for them, please?
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Move on broken record

You still think black unemployment was a plan of Trumps ? A rising tides lifts all boats Jim we’ve been over this .

Just accept it Trumps COVID response shows little concern of the Heath of Americans, since the elections he has made it abundantly clear he has quit being President crying about voter fraud spending more time trying to overturn an election while the nation COVID cases and deaths spike! He has told the nation F you I am done how dare you vote me out.

Greatest President in our life times

Most un-American President in our life is more like it
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Nobody was doing it back in March, get a calendar, or a clue.

The CDC recommended masks in April.

“The wearing of non-medical face masks in public to lessen transmission of COVID-19 in the United States was first recommended by the CDC on April 3, 2020 as supplemental to hygiene and appropriate social distancing.”

If you remember correctly, there was a mask shortage in March.
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That’s all you got 1 month? That’szz your response . You sound like Jim and his black unemployment .

The CDC the task force all adjusted and issued and updated as they went

Trump and his cult ran in place and are still in the same place.

funny his attacks on our election and his fraud claims get little attention.. from you Jim or Scott .. but but March American 1st ya ok
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Move on broken record

You still think black unemployment was a plan of Trumps ? A rising tides lifts all boats Jim we’ve been over this .

Just accept it Trumps COVID response shows little concern of the Heath of Americans, since the elections he has made it abundantly clear he has quit being President crying about voter fraud spending more time trying to overturn an election while the nation COVID cases and deaths spike! He has told the nation F you I am done how dare you vote me out.

Greatest President in our life times

Most un-American President in our life is more like it
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so it’s valid for you to say trump
doesn’t care about half the country. that’s ok. but if i offer evidence to contradict that statement, i’m a broken record living in the past.

is that about right?

how much does biden care about those who disagree with him? he said to blacks that republicans “want to put y’all back in chains.”. he said that blacks aren’t really black unless they’re for him.

so how would i then conclude, that biden likes me and will represent my interests, if he thinks i’m advocating for slavery?
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So if Trump came out back in March and said let’s lock #^&#^&#^&#^& down and everybody must wear a mask, the 77 milllion that didn’t vote for him would have just unquestioningly said “That’s a great idea, I’m gonna do it” :rolleyes:
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Well, with the two week mask differential aside :doh:, many places were in lockdown by the end of March. Trump was also on the plus side for approval vs disapproval, all while most of the states heavy on the 77 million were in lockdown. I am guessing if he weren't such a moron about things and had behaved more like you supposed, he would probably be president going forward. Many of the 77 million wouldn't like his 50k other flaws, but his pandemic handling could have been just enough to save him. Oh darn.

Well, with the two week mask differential aside :doh:, many places were in lockdown by the end of March. Trump was also on the plus side for approval vs disapproval, all while most of the states heavy on the 77 million were in lockdown. I am guessing if he weren't such a moron about things and had behaved more like you supposed, he would probably be president going forward. Many of the 77 million wouldn't like his 50k other flaws, but his pandemic handling could have been just enough to save him. Oh darn.

My point isn’t about winning or losing the election, my point is that whatever he said to do, half the country would have done the opposite because.....Trump.

Whether it’s right or wrong, they would just ignore it because of who delivered the message.
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so it’s valid for you to say trump
doesn’t care about half the country. that’s ok. but if i offer evidence to contradict that statement, i’m a broken record living in the past.

is that about right?

how much does biden care about those who disagree with him? he said to blacks that republicans “want to put y’all back in chains.”. he said that blacks aren’t really black unless they’re for him.

so how would i then conclude, that biden likes me and will represent my interests, if he thinks i’m advocating for slavery?
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Are you an angry black man trapped in a white mans body ?

Again nothing about Trump trying to overturn an American election shocking
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Whether it’s right or wrong, they would just ignore it because of who delivered the message.
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and because the entire media would’ve said that whatever he said, was the dumbest possible thing to say, and racist to boot.
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Are you an angry black man trapped in a white mans body ?

Again nothing about Trump trying to overturn an American election shocking
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when i point out something that you can’t refute, you always come back with an insult. are you a low-iq baby trapped in an adults body? you have a lot more in common with trump than you think.

Have you ever once agreed with a conservative? on anything? No. because in your amazingly simpleton mind, liberals are always right. they can’t be wrong, not ever, you’re not sophisticated enough to process that both sides can possibly have good points on different issues. that’s way too co
complicated for you. Trump, especially, must be wrong in everything. every. single. thing.


for the tenth time, here’s my take on the election challenges...if he doesn’t have anything credible by the early december deadline, he deserves all the criticism he gets, for saying it was stolen.
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That’s all you got 1 month? That’szz your response . You sound like Jim and his black unemployment .

The CDC the task force all adjusted and issued and updated as they went

Trump and his cult ran in place and are still in the same place.

funny his attacks on our election and his fraud claims get little attention.. from you Jim or Scott .. but but March American 1st ya ok
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Aaahhhh....once again entering into a discussion with you has sent me scurrying for my migraine medication. :wall:

You have a good day and hopefully Santa will bring you some new crayons for Christmas
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My point isn’t about winning or losing the election, my point is that whatever he said to do, half the country would have done the opposite because.....Trump.

Whether it’s right or wrong, they would just ignore it because of who delivered the message.
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We’ll never know? he never even tried !

He has put more effort in suggesting mass voter fraud, he convinced millions of that .. over 70 different tweets and press conferences to that affect

He convinced millions COVID was over we were rounding the corner he convinced millions masks didn’t work he convinced millions look I got COVID and recovered so it ain’t so bad he mocked those who chose to wear a mask as did many of his fellow Republicans..and still do

I said it in a different thread, all Trump needed to do was to make an honest attempt or fake it to make it. That he cared Americans would have cut him some slack , on the pandemic

But he couldn’t , he just kept playing to his base and they played to him so focused on each other they convinced each other they couldn’t be beat , and if they lost it would be everyone else’s fault, and stolen
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We’ll never know? he never even tried !

He has put more effort in suggesting mass voter fraud, he convinced millions of that .. over 70 different tweets and press conferences to that affect

He convinced millions COVID was over we were rounding the corner he convinced millions masks didn’t work he convinced millions look I got COVID and recovered so it ain’t so bad he mocked those who chose to wear a mask as did many of his fellow Republicans..and still do

I said it in a different thread, all Trump needed to do was to make an honest attempt or fake it to make it. That he cared Americans would have cut him some slack , on the pandemic

But he couldn’t , he just kept playing to his base and they played to him so focused on each other they convinced each other they couldn’t be beat , and if they lost it would be everyone else’s fault, and stolen
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what did he never try to do?

he restricted travel
from china ( and was attached for it).

he sent hospital ships and ventilators to hot spots. had the feds make makeshift hospitals in NY. liberal governors of NY and CA came out and thanked him, said he was being a good partner.

he partnered with private sector to ramp up testing, manufacturing of testing equipment, and ventilators.

now, his style and tone early on, were in my opinion too casual. but his policies? what did he not do, that you think he should have done? by april most of the nation was locked down, everyone was wearing masks. so what should he have done?
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Maybe in yours and Tweety's world it started in April, but Vermont with the lowest rate in the country started in March and I know my wife and mother were both sewing masks then.
By the way we were back to work in mid April, but maybe we should have listened to Tweety, just kept going and ended up in South Dakota's situation with one in a thousand dead.

GOVERNOR PHIL SCOTT ISSUES A “STAY HOME, STAY SAFE” ORDER, DIRECTS ADDITIONAL CLOSURES
24 MARCH 2020
Montpelier, Vt. – Governor Phil Scott today issued a “Stay Home, Stay Safe” order and directed the closure of in-person operations for all non-essential businesses.

Gov Cuomo directly caused hundreds of deaths when he ordered nursing homes to admit covid residents, when we all knew this was a disease that was especially deadly to the elderly.

Cuomo gets an award from liberals for his covid leadership. his state is by far, the worst place for covid.

liberals don’t care about results. they’re impervious to results.
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Gov Cuomo directly caused hundreds of deaths when he ordered nursing homes to admit covid residents, when we all knew this was a disease that was especially deadly to the elderly.

Cuomo gets an award from liberals for his covid leadership. his state is by far, the worst place for covid.

liberals don’t care about results. they’re impervious to results.
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Again your upset like Trump because Cuomo gave better information to Americans than Trump

Results do matter hence Trump lost

Ps Trump Push To Invalidate Votes In Heavily Black Cities Alarms Civil Rights Groups

But but unemployment
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what did he never try to do?

he restricted travel
from china ( and was attached for it).

he sent hospital ships and ventilators to hot spots. had the feds make makeshift hospitals in NY. liberal governors of NY and CA came out and thanked him, said he was being a good partner.

he partnered with private sector to ramp up testing, manufacturing of testing equipment, and ventilators.

now, his style and tone early on, were in my opinion too casual. but his policies? what did he not do, that you think he should have done? by april most of the nation was locked down, everyone was wearing masks. so what should he have done?
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A ship I wouldn’t call that special ramping up vents True all things expected of any POTUS

so Jim and what has he done since?
Besides try to claim an elections was stolen with massive fraud with zero evidence

I guess you support him in that endeavor as well
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Again your upset like Trump because Cuomo gave better information to Americans than Trump

Results do matter hence Trump lost

Ps Trump Push To Invalidate Votes In Heavily Black Cities Alarms Civil Rights Groups

But but unemployment
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'Cuomo gave better information to Americans than Trump"

Like telling seniors with covid that nursing homes were the best place for them? That was good information?

"Results do matter "

You can't criticize Cuomo for sending the virus to nursng homes, because hes a democrat. Results don't matter to you, only The Narrative matters. Complimenting democrats is all that matters.

I'll prove it...

name one meaningful issue, just one, on which you think liberals are wrong and conservatives are right.

A ship I wouldn’t call that special ramping up vents True all things expected of any POTUS

so Jim and what has he done since?
Besides try to claim an elections was stolen with massive fraud with zero evidence

I guess you support him in that endeavor as well
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'A ship I wouldn’t call that special " Ubnless a democratd did it, then it would be special.

I asked you a very specific question, which naturally you dodged.

What should Trump have done, that he didn't do, based on information we had at that time?

'what has he done since?"

Well he implemented operation warp speed to facilitate the production of a vaccine, there's that.

Have you seen how death rates are trending? Here's an NPR published study showing that death rates are about one-third of what they were at the start. But let's ignore that, because God forbid we admit anything that might make him look good!


https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/10/20/925441975/studies-point-to-big-drop-in-covid-19-death-rates

You say he did a crappy job, but can't point to one single thing you think he should have done. You're criticizing him, and you're admitting that you don't even know why. TDS in all of its glory.

Meanwhile our testing capabilities are way up, death rates are way down, and the vaccine is on track to e available sooner than is typical.

Incredible to me, but not the least bit surprising, that you can't criticize Cuomo, who obviously has blood on his hands here.

My point isn’t about winning or losing the election, my point is that whatever he said to do, half the country would have done the opposite because.....Trump.

Whether it’s right or wrong, they would just ignore it because of who delivered the message.
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I know your point. I meant to say approval of pandemic handling was initially positive. I don't believe any large part of the population would have given him grief for taking appropriate measures to protect people if he could have done it and acted like a responsible adult at minimum. Bush was hugely popular for his initial handling of 9/11 soon after one of them most contacting l contentious elections in history. Trump isn't historically unpopular because of spite, it is because he is a childish buffoon.
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Tweety is a loser
He and the rest of the victims need to get over it
Besides you're not seeing any business person really upset that Donald Trump is moving on because the street loves stability, and Donald Trump is the antithesis of stability.
That’s why the Dow hit a new record high
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If only Barr could have delivered on his Durham report hehe, they should have put Rudy in charge of getting that earth shattering news out.

I know your point. I meant to say approval of pandemic handling was initially positive. I don't believe any large part of the population would have given him grief for taking appropriate measures to protect people if he could have done it and acted like a responsible adult at minimum. Bush was hugely popular for his initial handling of 9/11 soon after one of them most contacting l contentious elections in history. Trump isn't historically unpopular because of spite, it is because he is a childish buffoon.
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part of it is trumps fault. part is a media determined to help
democrats and determined to smear republicans.

They portrayed Bush as an idiot and a racist ( despite the fact that he did more for africa, literally, than any human who has ever lived).

McCain was a senile old racist.

Romney was a heartless plutocrat who objectified women.

how much time did every network except fox, spend cornering any of the following:

tax cuts that did actually help
the poor ( doubled the standard deduction, increased child tax credits)

lowest black unemployment ever

increased funding for black colleges

criminal justice reform

no questionable wars

progress towards peace in the middle east

america energy independent

for gods sake, three years after charlottesville, they’re still
saying he didn’t denounce racists there, when the transcript clearly shows he did

i’m not saying he deserves a love fest like obama got, and which biden is getting and will get. but it would be nice if the media could be fair, fair meaning we accurately cover the pros and the cons.

look at the lefties here. only one of them, exactly one, can say anything good about a conservative or critical of a democrat.

there’s a reason why greedy companies are happy to spend a million bucks on a 30 second tv commercial, because it works.

Biden got a free infomercial, 24 hours a day, for 4 years
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'A ship I wouldn’t call that special " Ubnless a democratd did it, then it would be special.

I asked you a very specific question, which naturally you dodged.

What should Trump have done, that he didn't do, based on information we had at that time?

'what has he done since?"

Well he implemented operation warp speed to facilitate the production of a vaccine, there's that.

Have you seen how death rates are trending? Here's an NPR published study showing that death rates are about one-third of what they were at the start. But let's ignore that, because God forbid we admit anything that might make him look good!


https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/10/20/925441975/studies-point-to-big-drop-in-covid-19-death-rates

You say he did a crappy job, but can't point to one single thing you think he should have done. You're criticizing him, and you're admitting that you don't even know why. TDS in all of its glory.

Meanwhile our testing capabilities are way up, death rates are way down, and the vaccine is on track to e available sooner than is typical.

Incredible to me, but not the least bit surprising, that you can't criticize Cuomo, who obviously has blood on his hands here.

but can't point to one single thing you think he should have done

warp speed yes he should get credit for funding it yet another example another of seeing praise for Trump doing what’s expected of any POTUS

Funny Cuomo has blood on his hands for making a decision

Yet for you Trump makes no decision no blood on his hands

Trump trying to overturn an election with lies and no existing Fraud and your ok with that

Yes testing is up deaths are down
Yet
Hospital admission are at an all time high deaths are on the increase

And our lame duck Trump as always takes credit for the things that make him look good , like stock market and takes no other responsibility when thing go south and blames everyone else

That’s not what leaders do
Hence that’s why he’s no leader
He’s an opportunist

Yet

In the three weeks since Election Day, President Trump’s most visible presence has been on Twitter. Since Nov. 3, he has posted some 550 tweets — about three-quarters of which attempted to undermine the integrity of the 2020 election results.

While COVID runs rampant what a petty man
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Georgia Republicans!
Only you Georgians get a chance, on January 5, to vote AGAIN for Trump-Pence! To show true loyalty!
In the Special Senate election runoff, write in Donald Trump (he's special!).
In the Regular Senate election runoff, write in Mike Pence (he's regular!).
MAGA!
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Only 3% of Trump Voters Believe Joe Biden Is Legitimate Winner None of that 3% comment here
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wdmso, i mean this sincerely...do you have brain damage? you keep
saying i’m ok with his dragging out the election suits. i keep
saying that if he has no compelling evidence, he deserves to be criticized. i think he’s making an idiot out of himself, but i’ll wait to see if anything comes out between now and december. i am criticizing him. is that going over your head?

your side spent 3.5 years trying to find a way to undo the 2016 election. you never said they should give up and accept it, not once. so i’m not sure where you get the nerve to lecture anyone in this issue, but putting that aside, i think i biden won fair and square based on what i’ve seen. if you still don’t grasp it, i’ll try to put it in a pop up book, would that help you understand?
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None of that 3% comment here
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no one here knows what that gibberish means.
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Now onto the corrupt pardons phase of the presidential transition
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wdmso, i mean this sincerely...do you have brain damage? you keep
saying i’m ok with his dragging out the election suits. i keep
saying that if he has no compelling evidence, he deserves to be criticized. i think he’s making an idiot out of himself, but i’ll wait to see if anything comes out between now and december. i am criticizing him. is that going over your head?

your side spent 3.5 years trying to find a way to undo the 2016 election. you never said they should give up and accept it, not once. so i’m not sure where you get the nerve to lecture anyone in this issue, but putting that aside, i think i biden won fair and square based on what i’ve seen. if you still don’t grasp it, i’ll try to put it in a pop up book, would that help you understand?
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I’ll wait till December not a single word of condemnation , which means I have no issues with him lying about mass voter fraud and claiming he won the election.. I get it your doing what ever Trump supporters are doing the excusing his overthrow attempt of the election , hiding behind he’s allowed his legal challenges BS

As for 2016 no one suggested The elections were rigged and rampant with voter frauds was the cause of Trumps wins no re counts or delays where argued in courts or state officials called to the White House or election officials called with suggestions of delay , it was suggested Russians influenced the election not the same.

Then trumps is responsible for his behavior in office hence his problems , I guess you ignored like Republicans. Actual evidence presented by actual officials not soliciting fraud claims on a web site ?

but as if on cue you like Trump blame everyone one else for the situations he finds himself in ..in 2016 and now

What concerns me the most who are the people who actually came up with Trumps assault plans on our elections if he lost. Because it was ready to go on election night.

we both know Trump didn’t think it any of this by himself , and clearly no one told him it’s very close to looking like Sedition minus violent part, but we’ve got Time
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no one here knows what that gibberish means.
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Only 3% of Trump Voters Believe Joe Biden Is Legitimate

Are you part of this 3%
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Only 3% of Trump Voters Believe Joe Biden Is Legitimate

Are you part of this 3%
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Please tell me how many times I need to say it, before you can understand it? How many? 100? 250?

From everything I know, Biden won the election fair and square. I see zero evidence that fraud was at the level where it won the election from Biden.

How much more clear can I be, before you get it? Do you only speak gibberish, do you struggle with actual English? What about that, is too complicated for you? Which words, exactly, don't you understand? Find a toddler, and ask him to explain this to you, maybe that will help.

Now, since you clearly have issues with people who can't accept that their candidate lost, how come you never once complained about your side spending 3.5 years denying they lost the 2016 election? Or is it only bad when republicans do it?

Poor victim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-A09a_gHJc

Now the poor victim will skyscream for the next 4 years...........:lossinit::lasso:

Please tell me how many times I need to say it, before you can understand it? How many? 100? 250?

From everything I know, Biden won the election fair and square. I see zero evidence that fraud was at the level where it won the election from Biden.

How much more clear can I be, before you get it? Do you only speak gibberish, do you struggle with actual English? What about that, is too complicated for you? Which words, exactly, don't you understand? Find a toddler, and ask him to explain this to you, maybe that will help.

Now, since you clearly have issues with people who can't accept that their candidate lost, how come you never once complained about your side spending 3.5 years denying they lost the 2016 election? Or is it only bad when republicans do it?

Jim saying Biden won fare a square and you see no fraud

In no way shape or form does that statement address Trumps attempts and attacks on our elections claiming he won when he hasn’t and providing zero evidence of fraud

ask a toddler I am sure they’ll agree

as for 2016 and 2020 they are not the same this has been explained yet you insist that some how there is a comparison to be made ...
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Jim saying Biden won fare a square and you see no fraud

In no way shape or form does that statement address Trumps attempts and attacks on our elections claiming he won when he hasn’t and providing zero evidence of fraud

ask a toddler I am sure they’ll agree

as for 2016 and 2020 they are not the same this has been explained yet you insist that some how there is a comparison to be made ...
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"Jim saying Biden won fare a square and you see no fraud "

I see plenty of fraud, but not nearly enough to tilt the presidential election. If Trump has no additional evidence, he was being very reckless and dishonest by saying that the election was stolen. Again, you're the only person on the planet who doesn't see what I'm saying.

He's being no more dangerous and reckless, than the democrats were from 2017-2020, who never stopped trying to undo the 2016 election. Nor any more reckless than Hilary was when she told Biden never to concede under any circumstances, to drag it out as long as humanly possible. He's doing EXACTLY what Hilary told Biden to do, and not one liberal here had a critical syllable for Hilary. Not one Because it's OK when you do it.

"as for 2016 and 2020 they are not the same"

Right. In 2016, it was your side who lost and couldn't admit it. And it's fine when you do it.

New Evidence finds Voters colluded against Trump

"

He's being no more dangerous and reckless, than the democrats were from 2017-2020, .

Your Truly are not a history buff
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Trump called in from the White House to an informal meeting of Pennsylvania lawmakers, repeating baseless claims about the election being "rigged."

"This election has to be turned around," Trump said, though the election results have already been certified in a number of key states, including Pennsylvania, and the formal transition process to the incoming Biden



Yea Jim just like 2016.
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Trump called in from the White House to an informal meeting of Pennsylvania lawmakers, repeating baseless claims about the election being "rigged."

"This election has to be turned around," Trump said, though the election results have already been certified in a number of key states, including Pennsylvania, and the formal transition process to the incoming Biden



Yea Jim just like 2016.
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You're making fun of my recollection of history?

Have democrats not been saying since November 2016, that Russia played a role in Trumps win? What's the evidence of that, exactly?

And did democrats not spend years trying to undo that election? Various witch hunts? Tax returns, russian collusion, quid pro quo? Endless claims that he was an illegitimate president? Democrats and media talking heads didn't call him illegitimate for the whole term?

Instead of simply saying my recollection of history is wrong, why not go a bit further and show us? What did I say, which didn't happen?

You're making fun of my recollection of history?

Have democrats not been saying since November 2016, that Russia played a role in Trumps win? What's the evidence of that, exactly?

And did democrats not spend years trying to undo that election? Various witch hunts? Tax returns, russian collusion, quid pro quo? Endless claims that he was an illegitimate president? Democrats and media talking heads didn't call him illegitimate for the whole term?

Instead of simply saying my recollection of history is wrong, why not go a bit further and show us? What did I say, which didn't happen?

Jim buy a dictionary and look up fraud then influenced

Your getting more desperate in every post
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Well, when “winning the internet and owning the libs” is dependent on belief and support of a corrupt demagogue, you’re in a tough spot.
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More than 91,500 people were hospitalized with the virus on Saturday, with 18,000 in intensive care units. That's according to data compiled by the COVID Tracking Project, which collects and analyzes data from across the United States. Over 6,000 patients were on ventilators.

And Trumps Golfing And claiming election fraud ,, Saw he has golfed a 5th of his time in office

But his base was outraged when the black guy golfed
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More than 91,500 people were hospitalized with the virus on Saturday, with 18,000 in intensive care units. That's according to data compiled by the COVID Tracking Project, which collects and analyzes data from across the United States. Over 6,000 patients were on ventilators.

And Trumps Golfing And claiming election fraud ,, Saw he has golfed a 5th of his time in office

But his base was outraged when the black guy golfed
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what do you suppose biden would have done if potus, to improve those numbers?

guy keep saying trump blew it, but can’t give any specifics. meaning, you don’t know why you’re saying it.
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what do you suppose biden would have done if potus, to improve those numbers?

guy keep saying trump blew it, but can’t give any specifics. meaning, you don’t know why you’re saying it.
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But everyone has and all you do is recite Tweety’s gaslighting
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what do you suppose biden would have done if potus, to improve those numbers?

guy keep saying trump blew it, but can’t give any specifics. meaning, you don’t know why you’re saying it.
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Jim he didn’t even attempt to care that COVID was a problem ... isn’t that enough , and he still doesn’t
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Jim is going down with the ship, defending the indefensible and convinced nobody could have done more. I’d say nobody could have done worse, not a single candidate on either side, which is why this country kicked his sorry good for nothing arse to the curb.

Jim is going down with the ship, defending the indefensible and convinced nobody could have done more. I’d say nobody could have done worse, not a single candidate on either side, which is why this country kicked his sorry good for nothing arse to the curb.

i didn’t defend trump. i merely asked for an example. only a group of guys who all share unsupported beliefs would criticize me for asking for an example.

“i’d say nobody could have done worse.”

ok. then tell me what you suspect biden would have done better, exactly? last spring we were shut down, everyone was wearing masks, we worked to ramp up testing and vaccines and protective gear.

give me specifics? accurate specifics if it’s not too much to ask?

i think trumps tone was waaay to casual early on, but in practical terms, i don’t see that it mattered much. the policies he enacted indicate plenty of urgency. enough so that cuomo and newsom each praised trump for helping their states.

GS, what would you say about cuomos policy of forcing nursing homes to admit covid positive patients? long after we all knew that it targeted the elderly?

or pelosi and diblasio saying in late february that it was safe to go out in crowded public places?

lemme guess, trump made them
do it.
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Oh no Jim evidence this virus was in the US long before it was public, there goes that default travel ban argument and now Barr has called the election final, you going to be OK?
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RI opening field hospitals US hits nearly 2,600 COVID-19 deaths in one day -- the highest since April

Let me guess it’s just more testing , and these deaths are the Flu
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Republicans Make Up 70% Of The Members Of Congress Who Have Tested Positive For Covid-19 Hummm?
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A record 3,157 Americans died yesterday from covid-19, meaning that more than 1 out of 100 of our pandemic fatalities occurred in those 24 hours.

Meanwhile, a deranged Trump soothes his wounded ego by spreading insane, destructive lies about the election he lost.
And Trumplican leadership......crickets
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Trump tweets over 400 times about the election since Election Day. Guess how many COVID tweets. 1. Saying Rudy has covid
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Touched by Trump’s tweet this morning honoring the lives lost in Pearl Harbor on this date and admitting we are now losing more Americans every day than we lost in those attacks due to his lack of morals and leadership.
Just kidding, he tweeted about himself and attacked Kemp.
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Left, middle or Right. pointing fingers is not going to keep you safe from the global dominators. There is more to this virus than you know.
listen to this guy and see if he makes any good points, when you put everything together that is going on you will get the picture. If you don't want to think for yourself, go ahead and continue to be a manipulated useful idiot sheep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkGB1-YFn1Q

Left, middle or Right. pointing fingers is not going to keep you safe from the global dominators. There is more to this virus than you know.
listen to this guy and see if he makes any good points, when you put everything together that is going on you will get the picture. If you don't want to think for yourself, go ahead and continue to be a manipulated useful idiot sheep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkGB1-YFn1Q


one sheep clearly isn’t thinking at all


Same guy who said it’s lab made in February

James Lyons-Weiler. We’ve met him once before on this blog, when he attacked a study that found that autism is primarily genetic. In brief, he’s a former scientist. (I say “former” because he has abandoned good science in favor of antivaccine pseudoscience and no longer rates that title in my estimation, given the sorts of antivaccine pseudoscience he’s published


https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/james-lyons-weiler-coronavirus-conspiracy-vaccine/
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Left, middle or Right. pointing fingers is not going to keep you safe from the global dominators. There is more to this virus than you know.
listen to this guy and see if he makes any good points, when you put everything together that is going on you will get the picture. If you don't want to think for yourself, go ahead and continue to be a manipulated useful idiot sheep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkGB1-YFn1Q

So we're manipulated useful idiot sheep because we don't want to think for ourselves yet you are telling us to watch someone who will tell us how to think? 🤣
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China is the one to watch out for, not Russia. Plenty of sheep in the world as long as everyone is using labels.

I chuckled today because during the NBC Nightly Lester Holt was talking how we can get toward Herd Immunity.

The gaslighting is actually quite amazing.

My sister the biggest hypochondriac and anti vaccine person I know would love that, personally I will go with real science and be happy to roll up my sleeve when I can get one.

The irony is my sister who won’t even get a flu shot is always complaining about being sick.
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I chuckled today because during the NBC Nightly Lester Holt was talking how we can get toward Herd Immunity.

The gaslighting is actually quite amazing.



You know the fringe groups on this are Adopting a strategy of natural herd immunity or Aka let the Virus run it’s course .. It’s criminal and it’s unethical,” we are seeing how well that’s going
Aka slipknots you tube guy the anti mask crowd anti lock down folks

And medical based professionals who clearly see that idea as. It’s criminal and it’s unethical,” and suggest herd immunity can be reached thru mass vaccination social distance and Masks reduces transmission and then Herd immunity could possible occurs I stress Could because their is no science to suggest it’s out come is certain


so how is Holt Gas lighting because I listed there are 2 distinct roads to possible herd immunity which one was he speaking

Because Republicans plan of doing nothing clearly is doing nothing to slow the spread of Covid

And this is why many area who were against Mask because it was an infringement on their Right (BS)

Are now being impacted by Covid and are saying WTF , maybe we need to re think this
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The Pres. said:

'You develop immunity over a period of time. And I hear we're close to 15% [of Americans], I'm hearing that, and that's terrific, that's a very powerful vaccine in itself,' he told reporters on Tuesday.


280K deaths "terrific"

Clearly the greatest president of our lifetime

The Pres. said:

'You develop immunity over a period of time. And I hear we're close to 15% [of Americans], I'm hearing that, and that's terrific, that's a very powerful vaccine in itself,' he told reporters on Tuesday.


280K deaths "terrific"

You can't assume trends from one example, but my sister in law tested positive last summer, and just tested positive again last week. She's an ER nurse. Maybe she was one in a million. Or maybe there will be no herd immunity as the strand changes slightly...

The Pres. said:

'You develop immunity over a period of time. And I hear we're close to 15% [of Americans], I'm hearing that, and that's terrific, that's a very powerful vaccine in itself,' he told reporters on Tuesday.


280K deaths "terrific"

Trump said it is “terrific” that 15 percent of the population has been infected with COVID (we were at 11.7% as of Nov. 28, per CDC). He meant that as a suggestion we’re getting towards herd immunity, which would be around 70%. So, clearly, not close and very much not terrific
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Clearly the greatest president of our lifetime
Is someone’s time out over, hey in case you miss something, you owe John’s charity of choice $100 and let your fellow “easy” money comrade Ronny know. Unless of course you are in the delusional camp thinking Trump will get a second term.

You can't assume trends from one example, but my sister in law tested positive last summer, and just tested positive again last week. She's an ER nurse. Maybe she was one in a million. Or maybe there will be no herd immunity as the strand changes slightly...

My niece is a nurse also but in the Nicu. Brave people (along with anyone who works on the front lines). Tell her when people hear she is a nurse they say how brave they are. I tell my niece things like that all the time.

My brother knows one person who had it twice. Hopefully, there aren't that many.

My niece is a nurse also but in the Nicu. Brave people (along with anyone who works on the front lines). Tell her when people hear she is a nurse they say how brave they are. I tell my niece things like that all the time.

My brother knows one person who had it twice. Hopefully, there aren't that many.

15 year old in my neighborhood also tested positive this week, he tested positive last spring as well. who
knows.

i agree with every syllable
of your post, well said. merry christmas paul!!
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I think a lot of people lump together the terms Covid 19 and Coronavirus and that causes some confusion. When you get tested they are testing for the presence of the coronavirus, not Covid 19. Covid19 is the illness that people develop from the virus. Covid 19 is from a diagnosis, not a test.

IMHO people can probably be testing positive multiple times for its presence but their immune systems fight it off pretty handily, hence the amount of asymptomatic people.

Just my 2 cents
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merry christmas paul!!
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Thanks

Merry Christmas to you also.

US ranked 32nd globally in doses of vaccine purchase per capita, warp speed was a success, but oh wait we forgot to buy enough. Summit on the vaccine and nobody from the incoming team allowed to attend, Thanksgiving death tolls will be high and the country’s stupidity continues from the top down.

US ranked 32nd globally in doses of vaccine purchase per capita, warp speed was a success, but oh wait we forgot to buy enough. Summit on the vaccine and nobody from the incoming team allowed to attend, Thanksgiving death tolls will be high and the country’s stupidity continues from the top down.

We didn’t buy as many because weWere rounding the corner silly rabbit
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US ranked 32nd globally in doses of vaccine purchase per capita, warp speed was a success, but oh wait we forgot to buy enough. Summit on the vaccine and nobody from the incoming team allowed to attend, Thanksgiving death tolls will be high and the country’s stupidity continues from the top down.

wouldn't it be wrong for us to buy up all of the vaccine? there are people all over the world that need it..should people in rich countries get vaccine treatments that people in poor countries can't get...what are we Rudy?

wouldn't it be wrong for us to buy up all of the vaccine? there are people all over the world that need it..should people in rich countries get vaccine treatments that people in poor countries can't get...what are we Rudy?

There is a big difference between your usual Trump America first talking point and securing our fair share of the first batch, especially in light of our population and effort to get it out quickly.

There is a big difference between your usual Trump America first talking point

Which part of what I wrote is a trump America first talking point?
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uh oh....greedy americans should not get the vaccines..."vaccine nationalism"...these people are hilarious




“The president just signed an executive order to try to put Americans at the front of the line when it comes to vaccines,” CNN host Poppy Harlow said, adding, “I wonder if that’s what you were worried about when you kept saying and warning against vaccine nationalism?”

“That’s exactly what we were worried about,” Melinda Gates responded. “I knew it was coming and I was just incredibly disappointed.”

uh oh....greedy americans should not get the vaccines..."vaccine nationalism"...these people are hilarious




“The president just signed an executive order to try to put Americans at the front of the line when it comes to vaccines,” CNN host Poppy Harlow said, adding, “I wonder if that’s what you were worried about when you kept saying and warning against vaccine nationalism?”

“That’s exactly what we were worried about,” Melinda Gates responded. “I knew it was coming and I was just incredibly disappointed.”

As usual you get your story from the right wing media and it's only part of the story, but it's all about America First and owning the libs......

As coronavirus vaccines begin rolling out — a crucial step in ending the pandemic that has killed more than 1.5 million people and caused economic pain around the globe — Melinda Gates is urging leaders of wealthy countries not to forget about the rest of the world.

"Everybody needs this vaccine," Gates, co-chair of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, told CNN's Poppy Harlow in a broadcast interview Thursday. "If we only get it to the high-income countries, this disease is going to bounce around. We're going to see twice as many deaths. And our recovery of our economies is going to be much slower than if we get the vaccine out to everybody."

the gates and whoever was interviewing her better refuse their shots until the entire third world is immunized...."limousine vaccine liberals"

am I reading this correctly on worldometers? california reported 63,569 new cases yesterday?.well...since democrats fail upwards this should get that democrat california governor an emmy award, a tony award, a nobel peace prize, a date with madonna and a cabinet position with weekend at biden's...probably running something involving medical stuff because he's an expert now :jester:

Troll much?
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Troll much?
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it's nice when you keep it brief...:hf1:

oh crap...
Flights to UK canceled as health minister says new coronavirus variant is 'out of control'

CNN

Updated 7:43 AM ET, Sun December 20, 2020

London (CNN)The Netherlands and Belgium on Sunday imposed a ban on flights to the UK after a new variant of coronavirus, said by officials to spread faster than other strains, caused renewed restrictions in large parts of the country over the Christmas period.

Rand Paul: Masks ‘Are All About Submission’. Says the Ophthalmologist
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Rand Paul: Masks ‘Are All About Submission’. Says the Ophthalmologist
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they don't appear to be working for what they claim they are for.....

they don't appear to be working for what they claim they are for.....

compared to what not wearing one? Like i've said you think and talk as if they prevent Covid.. or try to suggest thats the suggestion of experts !


please pick

do you think masks have Zero benefit in minimizing the transmission of Covid or dont you?

Some just don’t think

USA has 4% of the world’s population but 23% of the world’s COVID cases.
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Some just don’t think

USA has 4% of the world’s population but 23% of the world’s COVID cases.
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half of those cases are in the top 10 current worst states and 75% of the cases in the top ten worst current states are in states with mask mandates....

look at the new case graph for california and look at the dates when california instituted their mask mandates and tell me how well it's working

Worked and is working in Vermont
We have fewer Trumplicans
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The White House Covid the gift that keeps giving

The SC Governor and his wife Peggy McMaster, the governor's wife, earlier contracted the virus but is asymptomatic, his office said.

The state's first lady tested positive several days after attending a White House Christmas event on Dec. 14, McMaster's office said Friday. They both tested negative ahead of the event, and on Dec. 10 before a meeting with Vice President Pence.
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Point????
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Point????
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While it might not be the point he wanted to make, I think it confirms what the numbers traced back to gatherings prove; they should be avoided at all costs. That is why we are seeing such a huge surge after thanksgiving and why it’s only going to get worse after Xmas.

Point????
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No point just stating the obvious

The White House is giving the gift that keeps on giving Covid to his faithful


He is the freakin President, any responsible President wouldn’t willingly allow such non essential gatherings

As Covid ravages why is he not part of the Covid negotiations? Typical Trump unwilling to do the work but the first to criticize the outcome. Yes this bill sucks , but largely because Trump would rather be golfing than doing his job.

And the faithful actually think it’s 1 bill not 2 different bills lumped together by Mitch
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"you guys are one horse ponies"

Well that’s because with the hacking of the government and Trump’s saying, knowing, caring and doing nothing about it — while trying to steal an election and pardoning his criminal friends — it’s hard to articulate how bad he is.

Saying he’s the worst president in history is inadequate.
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"you guys are one horse ponies"

its 1 trick pony

but seeing hes the only dog (Trump) and pony (republicans) show in town. what else is their to do :jump:

its 1 trick pony

but seeing hes the only dog (Trump) and pony (republicans) show in town. what else is their to do :jump:

tell that do dementia joe.....it's in "quotes"

I see he’s putting together his guest list for Christmas at MaraLago, this year it’s the Blackwater child killers.
Trump pardoned Eddie Gallagher and invited him to Mar A Lago last Christmas. Sadistic killers make him feel festive. He can’t feel joy like the rest of us, so he needs cruelty to be close, and to reward those who perpetrate it to validate his own depravity.

And it turns out he didn’t pardon one of the Blackwater guys.....Omertà?

“An interesting side note in last night’s pardon story is that a fifth convicted Blackwater contractor, Jeremy Ridgeway, who pleaded guilty and cooperated by testifying against the others, was not pardoned.”

He was sentenced in 2015 to a year in prison.

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