The current democratic leader in the house, Hakeem Jeffries, repeatedly denied that Trump won in 2016. That didn't stop democrats from making him house minority leader. Doesn't that suggest that your side doesn't actually care about election deniers?

The guys you cite here, interestingly, have absolutely zero to say about that. Same with Stacey Abrams' moronic, self-serving claims. Because it's only concerning when Republicans do it.



What exactly did Jeffries do?

He sent out tweets, is there anything else that threatened democracy in our country that he did?

Who is Stacey Abrams and what exactly did she do?

Hey Jim is running out of hits, this has potential to get enough play to make it to the play list.

For every single example you want to cite of a republican trampling on a generally-accepted constitutional norm, I can cite an example of a democrat doing the same thing. But again, as always, it's only worrisome when republicans do it.



Ok. 2 easy ones to start

What D. Pres. denied the election results and lead an insurrection?
Pls. show me a list of 147 Ds. who failed to certify a presidential election?

Ok. 2 easy ones to start

What D. Pres. denied the election results and lead an insurrection?
Pls. show me a list of 147 Ds. who failed to certify a presidential election?

paul, hers another easy one.

republicans want to ignore race because ones race doesn’t say anything about them. no more than one height says anything about them.

democrats are obsessed with it.

paul, hers another easy one.

republicans want to ignore race because ones race doesn’t say anything about them. no more than one height says anything about them.

democrats are obsessed with it.

Oh now that's a funny post.

Ok. 2 easy ones to start

What D. Pres. denied the election results and lead an insurrection?
Pls. show me a list of 147 Ds. who failed to certify a presidential election?

oh, i see! So it’s only bad when presidents deny an election result! but it’s ok when congressional leaders and gubernatorial candidates do so!

and when a small number of congressional democrats tried to overturn trumps 2016 win, that was meaningless, because there weren’t 147 of them!

the only conceivable logic, is that you don’t care when democrats do it, and care deeply when republicans do it.

tell us paul, how many prominent members of a party can deny an election they lost, before it’s an issue with you? And how did you arrive at that number?

Same as the number of times it’s ok to put kids in cages, the number of lies it’s ok to tell..

it’s always ok when democrats do it!!!

paul, hers another easy one.

republicans want to ignore race because ones race doesn’t say anything about them. no more than one height says anything about them.

democrats are obsessed with it.

oh, i see! So it’s only bad when presidents deny an election result! but it’s ok when congressional leaders and gubernatorial candidates do so!but you said "For every single example you want to cite of a republican trampling on a generally-accepted constitutional norm, I can cite an example of a democrat doing the same thing"

and when a small number of congressional democrats tried to overturn trumps 2016 win, that was meaningless, because there weren’t 147 of them!

the only conceivable logic, is that you don’t care when democrats do it, and care deeply when republicans do it.

2 dodges.

Going for a bike ride.

2 dodges.

Going for a bike ride.

Zero dodges. No 2 events are identical. I can point to many prominent democrats who deny elections, but you (like wayne) will focus on details. If the democrat does something on a tuesday, you can't compare it to a republican who does something on a wednesday, things like that.

You all get worked up about republicans who denied the 2020 election (which I also find troubling and embarassing). But none of you care that democrats denied the election is 2016, and a small number tried overturn it.

I said I could point to democrats doing the same thing, i didn't say democrats who are identical to the republican you bring up,

While you're on your ride, try to come up with a defensible number for how many people must deny an election before you start to give a crap.

Zero dodges. No 2 events are identical. I can point to many prominent democrats who deny elections, but you (like wayne) will focus on details. If the democrat does something on a tuesday, you can't compare it to a republican who does something on a wednesday, things like that.Right Jeffries tweeting something is the same as 147 Rs refusing to certify an election.

You all get worked up about republicans who denied the 2020 election (which I also find troubling and embarassing). But none of you care that democrats denied the election is 2016, and a small number tried overturn it.

I said I could point to democrats doing the same thing, i didn't say democrats who are identical to the republican you bring up,

While you're on your ride, try to come up with a defensible number for how many people must deny an election before you start to give a crap.

For every single example you want to cite of a republican trampling on a generally-accepted constitutional norm, I can cite an example of a democrat doing the same thing.

There is your statement yet you didn't do that.

paul, hers another easy one.

republicans want to ignore race because ones race doesn’t say anything about them. no more than one height says anything about them.

democrats are obsessed with it.

As I said you obviously have never seen a picture of Republicans.

If being short doesn’t matter, explain Gym Jordan.

And it’s probably a good time to remind you that another name for “Critical Race Theory” is “Actual American History”.
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And it’s probably a good time to remind you that another name for “Critical Race Theory” is “Actual American History”.
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Another name for it is bull$hit.

Just remember that our nation was born in genocide when it embraced the doctrine that the original American, the Indian, was an inferior race. From the sixteenth century forward, blood flowed in battles of racial supremacy.
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Just remember that our nation was born in genocide when it embraced the doctrine that the original American, the Indian, was an inferior race. From the sixteenth century forward, blood flowed in battles of racial supremacy.
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No . . . there was a lot of genocide going on in the "original" American continents before our nation was born. As was the case in the rest of the world. Our nation evolved from all of that and has become one of the most diverse and egalitarian ones.

But you would like us to slide back into a censorial and discriminatory one.

No . . . there was a lot of genocide going on in the "original" American continents before our nation was born. As was the case in the rest of the world. Our nation evolved from all of that and has become one of the most diverse and egalitarian ones.

But you would like us to slide back into a censorial and discriminatory one.

Relax, crappie fisherman. The migrant caravan will get here and teach your kids CRT before they take your gas stove.
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Relax, crappie fisherman. The migrant caravan will get here and teach your kids CRT before they take your gas stove.
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Thanks for the heads up. Your lying words are golden.

Our nation evolved from all of that and has become one of the most diverse and egalitarian ones.

And that upsets conservatives all over the United States and the globe

Who yearn for the days of good old colonialism. Where non Christians whites new their place in the world order
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Our nation evolved from all of that and has become one of the most diverse and egalitarian ones.

True

And that upsets conservatives all over the United States

Not true

and the globe

Globalism is bad . . . eff globalism.

Who yearn for the days of good old colonialism. Where non Christians whites new their place in the world order
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Who yearn? Yeah, some like PeteF and BLM and CRT want to put whites in their place . . . and that "world order" thingy . . . that's kinda that neo-leftist, Progressive, centralized, global governance that puts everone in their equally insignifcant place.

Who yearn? Yeah, some like PeteF and BLM and CRT want to put whites in their place . . . and that "world order" thingy . . . that's kinda that neo-leftist, Progressive, centralized, global governance that puts everone in their equally insignifcant place.

Rule no. 1: MAGAs are always the victims. Everything is unfair to them
Rule no. 2: The person responsible for the unfair treatment of MAGAs is never a white man. Except for Joe Biden who’s secretly controlled by a Jewish billionaire, China, or a black man
Rule no. 3: Refer to 1&2
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Rule no. 1: MAGAs are always the victims. Everything is unfair to them
Rule no. 2: The person responsible for the unfair treatment of MAGAs is never a white man. Except for Joe Biden who’s secretly controlled by a Jewish billionaire, China, or a black man
Rule no. 3: Refer to 1&2
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Some pretty good rules.

Typical House Republican learning of George Santos's past:

"Bit of a grifter? Who isn't?"

"Resume padder? Who doesn't?"

"Fake college degrees? Who cares?"

"Sudden riches from dubious sources? Good for him!"

"Ex-drag performer? WHAAATTT? Corrupting the youth! Get rid of him!"
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Now Republicans are trying to pass a 30% national sales tax on Americans. Because they’re really focused on fighting inflation or something.
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Now Republicans are trying to pass a 30% national sales tax on Americans. Because they’re really focused on fighting inflation or something.
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If you don’t want to pay a tax, don’t buy it. It’s as simple as that,” Carter told

Federal Reserve data indicates that as of Q4 2021, the top 1% of households in the United States held 32.3% of the country's wealth, while the bottom 50% held 2.6%. In recent decades, wealth inequality has substantially increased in the United States.

Yep GOP followers not understanding that they and the majority of Americans are the people who buy like 99% of the goods and services


What’s crazy why are they giving the crazy’s a soap box to even stand on.. They will complain when 6 year olds all get a participation trophy.

Yet Republicans are doing the same thing but giving up the house floor

Kevin has just gave up any lLegitimacy and seriousness the house had
All so he can say he’s speaker ..

He put himself before the country . Using the usual GOP rhetoric like freedom radical left fiscal responsibility. And the base of the Republican Party are alike Lemmings Kevin’s right behind Trump

Now Republicans are trying to pass a 30% national sales tax on Americans. Because they’re really focused on fighting inflation or something.
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Why not? It is a good way to capture taxes from the poor who spend all their money. They should lift themselves up by the bootstraps and make enough so that they have money they can put away that won't be taxed and then can buy income producing properties or invest in companies.

Now Republicans are trying to pass a 30% national sales tax on Americans. Because they’re really focused on fighting inflation or something.
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oh pete. You conveniently left out the part that their plan also eliminates the federal income tax. How come you left that part out?

Do you have the facts to show that eliminating the income
tax and replacing it with a sales tax, would cause more inflation? The cost of goods would go up obviously, but wouldn’t that be at least partially offset by the elimination of the income tax?

the gop proposed it, therefore it must be stupid, and probably diabolical.

TN is a very popular and booming state, it has no state income tax but a hefty sales tax. That policy hasn’t resulted in a cost of living that keeps people from moving there in huge numbers.

doesn’t mean it’s smart national policy, it’s very radical. . But you left out a big , big component of the proposal.

If you don’t want to pay a tax, don’t buy it. It’s as simple as that,” Carter told

Federal Reserve data indicates that as of Q4 2021, the top 1% of households in the United States held 32.3% of the country's wealth, while the bottom 50% held 2.6%. In recent decades, wealth inequality has substantially increased in the United States.

Yep GOP followers not understanding that they and the majority of Americans are the people who buy like 99% of the goods and services


What’s crazy why are they giving the crazy’s a soap box to even stand on.. They will complain when 6 year olds all get a participation trophy.

Yet Republicans are doing the same thing but giving up the house floor

Kevin has just gave up any lLegitimacy and seriousness the house had
All so he can say he’s speaker ..

He put himself before the country . Using the usual GOP rhetoric like freedom radical left fiscal responsibility. And the base of the Republican Party are alike Lemmings Kevin’s right behind Trump

wayne, here we see data that shows that for tax year 2020, the top 1% had 22% of total national income, yet paid 42% of the total national federal income tax.

In other words,,their share of the national tax burden was just about twice as large as their share of national income.

The tax code can likely be tweaked to make it more fair. But it’s already very, very progressive. Trump increased the number of people
at the bottom who pay nothing, by doubling the standard deduction. You should celebrate that. but we know why you won’t.

https://www.ntu.org/foundation/tax-page/who-pays-income-taxes

in a growing economy, wealth inequality has to increase, because the wealthy have more to invest. You can’t prevent that, and there’s no sane reason to try. would you support a law that makes it illegal to work or invest after someone becomes a billionaire?

one persons wealth, doesn’t hurt anyone else, assuming they didn’t steal it. the liberal fixation of the wealthy, who today are mostly liberals.

The democrats ran the show for two years, how come they didn’t do anything to fix it?

There is always going to be wealth inequality in a capitalist society. A 30% sales tax will make it worse and only benefit the rich.

wayne, here we see data that shows that for tax year 2020, the top 1% had 22% of total national income, yet paid 42% of the total national federal income tax.

In other words,,their share of the national tax burden was just about twice as large as their share of national income.

The tax code can likely be tweaked to make it more fair. But it’s already very, very progressive. Trump increased the number of people
at the bottom who pay nothing, by doubling the standard deduction. You should celebrate that. but we know why you won’t.

https://www.ntu.org/foundation/tax-page/who-pays-income-taxes

in a growing economy, wealth inequality has to increase, because the wealthy have more to invest. You can’t prevent that, and there’s no sane reason to try. would you support a law that makes it illegal to work or invest after someone becomes a billionaire?

one persons wealth, doesn’t hurt anyone else, assuming they didn’t steal it. the liberal fixation of the wealthy, who today are mostly liberals.

The democrats ran the show for two years, how come they didn’t do anything to fix it?

Jim,
The data presented by NTU shows the increase in wealth inequality since the Reagan administration.
Carried to the logical conclusion of your theory that wealth inequality has to increase, we all end up as serfs, living in homes owned by
the wealthiest and with no opportunity to escape.
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There is always going to be wealth inequality in a capitalist society. A 30% sales tax will make it worse and only benefit the rich.

if you taxed luxury items and didn’t tax some things that poor folks predominantly buy, it wouldn’t make it worse.

in any event, it sounds like a radical, stupid idea.

Jim,
The data presented by NTU shows the increase in wealth inequality since the Reagan administration.
Carried to the logical conclusion of your theory that wealth inequality has to increase, we all end up as serfs, living in homes owned by
the wealthiest and with no opportunity to escape.
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the point of the data i posted, is that the top 1% pay a share of income tax that’s twice as large as their proportion of income. Which means, our tax system is very progressive

Wealthy people getting wealthier, does not make anyone else a surf. Wealth is not finite. If Jeff Bezos earns another million this afternoon, that doesn’t mean there’s a million less for
me and you to scrounge for. it has zero impact on me and you, other than it probably decreases our tax burden.

here, you’re saying wealth is bad. but in other posts, you brag that the wealthiest people are mostly democrats.

So which is it?

One persons wealth, doesn’t cause another persons poverty. It’s not a zero sum game.

Every single one of us, knows people who started out poor and got rich.

wayne, here we see data that shows that for tax year 2020, the top 1% had 22% of total national income, yet paid 42% of the total national federal income tax.

In other words,,their share of the national tax burden was just about twice as large as their share of national income.

The tax code can likely be tweaked to make it more fair. But it’s already very, very progressive. Trump increased the number of people
at the bottom who pay nothing, by doubling the standard deduction. You should celebrate that. but we know why you won’t.

https://www.ntu.org/foundation/tax-page/who-pays-income-taxes

in a growing economy, wealth inequality has to increase, because the wealthy have more to invest. You can’t prevent that, and there’s no sane reason to try. would you support a law that makes it illegal to work or invest after someone becomes a billionaire?

one persons wealth, doesn’t hurt anyone else, assuming they didn’t steal it. the liberal fixation of the wealthy, who today are mostly liberals.

The democrats ran the show for two years, how come they didn’t do anything to fix it?

yet the 1% paid 42% of the total national federal income tax.

that you claim republicans want to eliminate and replace with a 30% sales tax

I am no mathematician but I don’t see how they could fund just the military with their plan

Jim’s another republican supporting the wealthy blindly in hope he’ll be rich someday

FYI Jim not paying your taxes is stealing… if those in government allow a system to benefit donors who argue those tax laws allow them to hire and re invest
But they do neither . It’s stealing

yet the 1% paid 42% of the total national federal income tax.

that you claim republicans want to eliminate and replace with a 30% sales tax

I am no mathematician but I don’t see how they could fund just the military with their plan

Jim’s another republican supporting the wealthy blindly in hope he’ll be rich someday

FYI Jim not paying your taxes is stealing… if those in government allow a system to benefit donors who argue those tax laws allow them to hire and re invest
But they do neither . It’s stealing

"that you claim republicans want to eliminate and replace with a 30% sales tax "

But neither you nor I know if that will change the % of tax paid by the top 1%. You're making blind assumptions. But I agree it's probably a stupid idea.

On a different note, if the top 1% pay twice as much in federal income tax as they hold of taxable income, doesn't that sort of mean they are paying their share? Your side likes to claim they don't...

"I am no mathematician "

Get outta here. Could've fooled me...

"I don’t see how they could fund just the military with their plan "

So either their plan wouldn't even fund the military, or else you don't know what you're talking about, in which case get some facts before you condemn it?

"Jim’s another republican supporting the wealthy blindly in hope he’ll be rich someday "

I didn't support them, I stated facts.

Which party do most wealthy register under, Wayne? So who is bowing to the wealthy?

"FYI Jim not paying your taxes is stealing"

I agree 100%. So you're saying Al Sharpton is a crooked thief, then? Because your side LOVES him.

"if those in government allow a system to benefit donors who argue those tax laws allow them to hire and re invest
But they do neither . It’s stealing"

(1) the wealthy pay plenty.
(2) the wealthy are mostly democrats.

Democrats controlled the entire federal government for Bidens first 2 years, and did nothing to improve it. How is that the Republican's fault, exactly?

Democrats controlled the entire federal government for Bidens first 2 years, and did nothing to improve it. How is that the Republican's fault, exactly?


Odd you dismiss the same argument when used against Republicans
Funny how that works

the point of the data i posted, is that the top 1% pay a share of income tax that’s twice as large as their proportion of income. Which means, our tax system is very progressive

Wealthy people getting wealthier, does not make anyone else a surf. Wealth is not finite. If Jeff Bezos earns another million this afternoon, that doesn’t mean there’s a million less for
me and you to scrounge for. it has zero impact on me and you, other than it probably decreases our tax burden.

here, you’re saying wealth is bad. but in other posts, you brag that the wealthiest people are mostly democrats.

So which is it?

One persons wealth, doesn’t cause another persons poverty. It’s not a zero sum game.

Every single one of us, knows people who started out poor and got rich.

Call it whatever you want, in 1971, a whole lot more American adults were living in a middle-class household. That's not the case today, as the middle class has shrunk in the last five decades — and the richest households have seen their earnings swell.
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For years the Republican said the only reason they spent money at trump's hotel in Washington was because it was convenient. Now they're spending 400 times less. Imagine that.

From its opening in June to the midterm elections, Republican officials, candidates and fundraising committees have spent less than $2,000 at the Waldorf Astoria, according to FEC data. In the same five-month window during the 2018 midterms, Republicans spent more than 400 times that amount with $867K in disbursements to the Trump Hotel. After the property opened in 2016 Republicans spent $266K in its first six months alone. This is only a portion of the spending that took place at the time, as a number of wealthy Republican donors and dark money groups also spent money at Trump’s hotel, without any requirement to disclose that spending to the public.

Trump hotel customers often claimed that the hotel’s downtown location and close proximity to the White House and Capitol explained their patronage. Representative Kevin McCarthy disregarded concerns about spending at Trump International, and said that Trump’s properties are “just like any other hotel.” Throughout Trump’s presidency, McCarthy’s committees spent over a quarter-million dollars at Trump properties and earned Trump’s support for his bid for Speaker of the House. The day after T-Mobile announced its merger with Sprint, nine T-Mobile executives stayed at Trump Hotel. CEO John Legere tweeted that the hotel was “convenient” and that the stay would not “have any influence on regulatory decisions.” Trump later approved the merger. The CEO of an energy trade group and Trump’s own campaign director also asserted that the Trump Hotel was a convenient choice for their events.
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For years the Republican said the only reason they spent money at trump's hotel in Washington was because it was convenient. Now they're spending 400 times less. Imagine that.

From its opening in June to the midterm elections, Republican officials, candidates and fundraising committees have spent less than $2,000 at the Waldorf Astoria, according to FEC data. In the same five-month window during the 2018 midterms, Republicans spent more than 400 times that amount with $867K in disbursements to the Trump Hotel. After the property opened in 2016 Republicans spent $266K in its first six months alone. This is only a portion of the spending that took place at the time, as a number of wealthy Republican donors and dark money groups also spent money at Trump’s hotel, without any requirement to disclose that spending to the public.

Trump hotel customers often claimed that the hotel’s downtown location and close proximity to the White House and Capitol explained their patronage. Representative Kevin McCarthy disregarded concerns about spending at Trump International, and said that Trump’s properties are “just like any other hotel.” Throughout Trump’s presidency, McCarthy’s committees spent over a quarter-million dollars at Trump properties and earned Trump’s support for his bid for Speaker of the House. The day after T-Mobile announced its merger with Sprint, nine T-Mobile executives stayed at Trump Hotel. CEO John Legere tweeted that the hotel was “convenient” and that the stay would not “have any influence on regulatory decisions.” Trump later approved the merger. The CEO of an energy trade group and Trump’s own campaign director also asserted that the Trump Hotel was a convenient choice for their events.
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No influence peddling going on there …. But but Hunter

Republicans won’t bring an immigration bill to the floor this week after members raised concerns about its scope and the process

Shocked
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Jordan is investigating the Biden administration's effort to 'target' parents at school board meetings

shocking this has been disproved over and over again More of the same the GOP chasing conspiracy theories


The bottom line is Republicans are reading much more into Garland’s memo than it says. The memo focuses strictly on “violence, threats of violence, and other forms of intimidation and harassment” — all of which are crimes — not on parents raising questions or complaints.

Jordan is investigating the Biden administration's effort to 'target' parents at school board meetings

shocking this has been disproved over and over again More of the same the GOP chasing conspiracy theories


The bottom line is Republicans are reading much more into Garland’s memo than it says. The memo focuses strictly on “violence, threats of violence, and other forms of intimidation and harassment” — all of which are crimes — not on parents raising questions or complaints.

that violence is already a state crime. what was the news for the feds to get involved? we’re any BOE members hurt and the assaulted it punished?

looked like the teachers union told their dogs to attack.

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There’s no teacher shortage. There are thousands of certified teachers who left the profession and refuse to be employed in education…you can’t blame them.
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There’s no teacher shortage. There are thousands of certified teachers who left the profession and refuse to be employed in education…you can’t blame them.
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yup. i’m sure they will find life easier and more fulfilling in the real world.

This is Jim’s republicans other concerns

Why conservatives are accusing the Xbox of being ‘woke’
The criticism comes after the brand said this month it’s rolling out updates to improve the energy efficiency of the video-game consoles

The Xbox is the latest product to join a long list — one that includes hamburgers, cars and, most recently, stoves — of everyday items targeted by conservatives who argue efforts to curb carbon emissions threaten Americans’ way of life.

Now energy conservation is woke lol

Jim why do conservatives want the feds to investigate attacks on conservatives birthing centers?

They provide no medical services

It’s normal for local law enforcement to ask the feds for help and it’s normal for feds to offer that help..

Can you show us any cases where the feds took over a local investigation that actually involved a parent who allegedly made or didn’t make a threat against a school board member..

I am going with you or Gym can’t provide 1 example.. just more Gopq feelings trying to be sold as facts again

And again with the Teachers union is Americas enemy . parroting more gop talking points
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yup. i’m sure they will find life easier and more fulfilling in the real world.

Schools aren’t the real world?
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AT&T's DirecTV Cancels NEWSMAX in Censorship Move

Because no one’s watching and their under no obligation to carry the Show.

But but they are being censored
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Since Trumplicans seem to have no historical memory or are just poorly educated, here’s a friendly reminder: just threatening a debt default in 2011 caused the stock market to plunge and mortgage rates to spike.

Is that an economy that works for you?
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So it's begun just passing bills for the sake of passing a bill that will die in the senate .. while calling it responsible legislation

House passes GOP bill limiting Biden reserve sales and requiring oil leasing

yep taking care of Big Oil doing little for Americans

meanwhile in the real world

Chevron posted a record $36.5 billion profit for 2022 that was more than double year-earlier earnings, kicking off what analysts expect to be a bumper earnings season for global energy suppliers.

Earlier this week, Chevron said it would triple its spending on share repurchases to $75 billion over five years at current guidance. Other oil companies are expected to follow suit.

what no additional drilling

If Santos loses his congressional seat, thanks to the change in House rules, any House Democrat can call for a vote to vacate the Speaker and Mccarthy doesn't have the votes to get his position as Speaker of the House back.
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The report, prepared by the RNC’s “National Election Integrity Team” and obtained by The Washington Post, reveals the degree to which Republicans continue to trade on former president Donald Trump’s false claims that Democrats and their allies rigged his defeat in 2020.
The report suggests building a massive new party organization involving state-level “election integrity officers” and intensive new training models for poll workers and observers — all based on unsubstantiated claims that Democrats have implemented election procedures that allow for rigged votes.

Shocked
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