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RIROCKHOUND 08-19-2009 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by likwid (Post 706386)
K.No comment for now. :hidin:

Yeah, the GFS model and the Euro models both show a slight shift to a more northerly track.
I really don't feel like going on a Hauling brigade for the boat(s) :wall:

likwid 08-19-2009 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 706398)
Yeah, the GFS model and the Euro models both show a slight shift to a more northerly track.
I really don't feel like going on a Hauling brigade for the boat(s) :wall:

bad juju.

RIROCKHOUND 08-19-2009 07:20 PM

we'll see.
I have faith in the high to keep it out to sea and keep us to T.S force wind gusts max... I haven't seen a model that puts the east side near S.E. New England, and NONE that have the freight train track of 38...

likwid 08-19-2009 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 706401)
we'll see.
I have faith in the high to keep it out to see and keep us to T.S force wind gusts max... I haven't seen a model that puts the east side near S.E. New England, and NONE that have the freight train track of 38...

Still a bit too early to make any solid predictions.
Tomorrow night could be a go/no go.

Karl F 08-19-2009 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Crafty Angler (Post 706253)
Will do - on my end down this way, I'm hoping it won't be more than a 2 bottle storm...:gu:

Maybe Karl F will pipe up with a prediction for you guys on the Cape - he's usually right on the money...:laughs:

:wave:... :hihi:...

we are due... been 18 years since Bob....
week without power...except at our store... only cold beer on lower cape for a week... man we was swamped... scored lotsa free firewood... but... I digress...a bit... the t-shirts... "I got Blown By Bob on Cape Cod"...guy that did those up that year made a killin... i ran into him tonight at work...asked him if he started on the "I got Blown By Bill on Cape Cod" t-shirts yet... :hihi:... he said he already had the art work done, and is gonna wait a day or so... to see the track... he know he has to blast them out before NSTAR pukes....IF we get it....

we is selling tons of bottles, regardless....but it will be at least a 2 bottle storm,:buds: no matter where it makes land fall... and I am making sure I have a full tank of chainsaw gas, atleast two extra sharp chains... and that the motorhome has a full load of gas, propane, and water, and made sure the generator is in good working order today.... plus the wife , I am sure, will load up on provisions.....just in case... :hihi:..

Just walked out of work a bit ago...it is a helluva lot more humid now, than earlier in the day...and the air is stagnant...no breeze...

my Mom would call this past weeks weather... a "weather breeder"....
an 83 year old I know told me tonight, his bones tell him it's coming..
and says it will pass right over Falmouth... :hihi:...

who knows??? :huh:

:D

Only Time will tell....

saltwateredge 08-19-2009 11:07 PM

'38 Path Question
 
Hey Guys and Gals, chris here.

Just looked this up on wikipedia and thought it was interesting. Path of the '38 Hurricane. What caused it to straighten out there at the end when it looked like it would curve out to sea? I'm still learning and trying to understand how these troughs and ridges "steer" these massive storms.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...cane_track.png

Crafty Angler 08-20-2009 01:45 AM

Yeah, Karl if I was gonna trust anyone it'd have to be someone old enough to have lived through the '38, '44 and '54 storms - I only qualify on one out of the three and my memories of Carol are still pretty vivid considering I was only 5 at the time

In all seriousness - which is fairly rare for me - can't say I like the predicted track going inside of Bermuda and now the high to our west looks to be stalling...:smokin:...gotta check a couple of weather maps

Worst case would be the cold front to our west slowing down allowing Bill to pass in between that one and the one responsible for our hot weather off the coast, funneling it this way

At the very least they're calling for swells between 12-20' by Sunday

I'll listen to the NHC morning report, but I may be moving up to DefCon 2 as of now for the storm - thank God we had a long-overdue new roof put on the house last week, just hope it stays there...:hs:

If nothing else at this point, it's at least worth making sure you're prepared - better safe than sorry

You've gotta admit, it's been a strange summer weather-wise...:huh:

Raven 08-20-2009 04:43 AM

went to check
 
SIGN on the old Indian's house

left town because of hurricane :confused:

RIROCKHOUND 08-20-2009 05:06 AM

I'm sticking with what I said above , maybe TS gusts, and maybe the extreme west edge brushes ACK....

likwid 08-20-2009 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by saltwateredge (Post 706446)
What caused it to straighten out there at the end when it looked like it would curve out to sea?

Probably a Low that was sitting there pushing it out to sea fell apart and let it go thumping along. The ridges are the boundaries between systems.

RIROCKHOUND 08-20-2009 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by likwid (Post 706468)
Probably a Low that was sitting there pushing it out to sea fell apart and let it go thumping along. The ridges are the boundaries between systems.

If you get a High way out over Bermuda as well, it can ride the west edge of that, coupled with a dip near the coast in the jet stream... it will ride up, and come fast, typically forward speeds in new England are 40-60mph. makes the east side of the storm that much worse.

Updated runs still show it out to sea the closest model is the NGF model....

Crafty Angler 08-20-2009 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven (Post 706459)
SIGN on the old Indian's house

left town because of hurricane :confused:

Hmmm...I noticed the old greenhorn up the street was out early this AM doubling up the lines on his tomato plants...:confused:

JohnR 08-20-2009 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Crafty Angler (Post 706501)
Hmmm...I noticed the old greenhorn up the street was out early this AM doubling up the lines on his tomato plants...:confused:


:rotf2:

boot man 08-20-2009 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Crafty Angler (Post 706214)
I'm gonna wait for word from the old Portagoosie down the street, myself

And check the 11 AM NHC update just to be sure

Doesnt sound so bad according to Weather Manny

http://portuguesefireman.com/files/1...er_Manny_2.mp3

JohnR 08-20-2009 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by boot man (Post 706521)
Doesnt sound so bad according to Weather Manny

http://portuguesefireman.com/files/1...er_Manny_2.mp3

:rotf2: LMAO everytime I hear Weather Manny

Mike P 08-20-2009 10:46 AM

I'll start worrying about it on Saturday. Maybe I should get another propane tank and fill it, so we'll have the grill. Or I can just grab an extra bag of charcoal for that other grill.

Maybe it'll hit us hard enough to get me out of jury duty on Monday :rotf2:

RIROCKHOUND 08-20-2009 10:52 AM

Bill has continued to move on a steady northwest track or 305
degrees at 16 knots...embedded within the flow surrounding the
Azores-Bermuda high. In about two days...the hurricane will become
steered northward and then northeastward by the flow between a
large mid-latitude trough swinging eastward across the eastern
United States and the subtropical high. Once the recurvature
begins...the hurricane should increase in forward speed. Most of
the track guidance shifted slightly to the west compared to the
previous run. This shift in guidance justifies a very small shift
to the west of the track official forecast...which indeed is very
close to the consensus.


Large swells generated by this hurricane are affecting the northern
Leeward Islands and should begin affecting the Bahamas...Bermuda...
most of the eastern U.S. Coast...and the Atlantic Maritimes of
Canada during the next few days. These swells will likely
cause extremely dangerous surf and life-threatening rip currents.
Please consult statements issued by your local weather office for
more details.


This afternoon NOAA and the 53rd hurricane hunters will be
conducting a two-aircraft synoptic surveillance mission around
Hurricane Bill to improve the initial analysis for the numerical
models.

striperman36 08-20-2009 11:49 AM

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwp...s_slp_072s.gif


72 hour has precip right on top of the cape

Raven 08-20-2009 01:58 PM

oh he's a RIOT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 706527)
:rotf2: LMAO everytime I hear Weather Manny

listened to it ah Twice

wicked funny

Damn those new yorkers LOL

Crafty Angler 08-20-2009 02:06 PM

Hey, bahhhdy, we got troublesh ova heah...

Unplug everyt'ing, just like Avo used to do...:hihi:

Joe 08-20-2009 02:25 PM

There's a good book, A Wind To Shake The World, about the 38' Hurricane. It was written by a summer resident that had one of the forty or so cottages that lined Napatree Point.

Mr. Sandman 08-20-2009 02:40 PM

I am still not convinced this will make a hard right turn and go way out to sea. Many models are still predicting a cat 1+ direct hit. I know what the weather man says..but look at the maps. It may be a near miss but it will be a mess nonetheless.
http://hurricane.accuweather.com/hur...#stormProducts

OT:
BTW several big jets and numerous real big military helo's just flew over my house in route to the airport. They (the black elite) are here.:fury: I am headed to my workshop and make some lures. See you in 2 weeks.

Typhoon 08-20-2009 02:56 PM

There's still a bunch of models putting this over the cape.

http://icons-pe.wunderground.com/dat...3_ensmodel.gif

Mike P 08-20-2009 04:19 PM

Bill's future movement will be highly dependent upon its interaction with an upper level disturbance northwest of the hurricane and high pressure strengthening to the east. This interaction will guide Bill on a northwest course the rest of today through Friday. A strong upper-level trough now located over the central United States will move east causing increasing southwest upper-level winds over the western Atlantic this weekend. This will help steer the hurricane on a more northerly course between 65 west longitude and 70 west longitude. If the upper-level trough moves faster than expected, Bill's track will be closer to 65 west. If the upper-level trough moves slower, then Bill's track will be closer to and perhaps just west of 70 west



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BassDawg 08-20-2009 06:15 PM

looks like somebunny will
be battening down the hatches!!!

just brang awn tha SURF!!!
:bl: :bl: :bl:

Crafty Angler 08-21-2009 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike P (Post 706622)
If the upper-level trough moves slower, then Bill's track will be closer to and perhaps just west of 70 west

I dunno, Mike - as of this AM the Weather Channel says that front out of the Midwest is gonna stall to our west - I still think it's gonna be a little dodgey hereabouts - and downright sporty on the Lower Cape

I guess this is gonna be the acid test for the new roof - I'm expecting a wet and gusty weekend at the very least, if nothing else

I'll tell ya, yesterday's weather sure had that pre-hurricane feel that I remember - real humid and still with virtually no breeze...:smokin:

If you start to notice very few birds of any kind around, it's time to start paying attention big time...:hs:

Maybe time to go to DefCon 1 - I'll have to run it by the Chief of Naval Operations as soon as she wakes up

RIROCKHOUND 08-21-2009 04:27 AM

You guys did see that the official NHC forecasts are moving the cone of opportunity further out to sea as of last night and the 5am, right? And after Katrina etc.. they are probably super cautious anyways, right?

This has a 1996 feel to it, warm, hot and storms passing offshore, making lots of good surf!

Crafty Angler 08-21-2009 06:17 AM

Anybody remember the name of the near-miss locally in the mid to late '90's...end of September I think it was...:huh:

Mike P 08-21-2009 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crafty Angler (Post 706674)
I dunno, Mike - as of this AM the Weather Channel says that front out of the Midwest is gonna stall to our west - I still think it's gonna be a little dodgey hereabouts - and downright sporty on the Lower Cape

I guess this is gonna be the acid test for the new roof - I'm expecting a wet and gusty weekend at the very least, if nothing else

I'll tell ya, yesterday's weather sure had that pre-hurricane feel that I remember - real humid and still with virtually no breeze...:smokin:

If you start to notice very few birds of any kind around, it's time to start paying attention big time...:hs:

Maybe time to go to DefCon 1 - I'll have to run it by the Chief of Naval Operations as soon as she wakes up

Quote:

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 706676)
You guys did see that the official NHC forecasts are moving the cone of opportunity further out to sea as of last night and the 5am, right? And after Katrina etc.. they are probably super cautious anyways, right?

This has a 1996 feel to it, warm, hot and storms passing offshore, making lots of good surf!

This is why I said I won't start worrying about this until tomorrow.

I remember the 90s near miss--it veered unexpectedly out to sea at the last minute. When we were still in its bullseye, the air had a heavy, metallic feel to it that you could almost taste.

Brian L 08-21-2009 07:53 AM

Don't mess with Bill

BassDawg 08-21-2009 08:05 AM

i was living in NPT and working under Chef Hawver at the White Horse in '91. i'll never forget the hurricane whose eye passed right over 1st Beach,,,,,,,,,,,,i believe it was Bob? don't know if that's the one you meant Crafty~~but it was AWESOME walking around 1st Beach during the EYE, the surf was crashing onto the first lane of Memorial Blvd, and there were trees down EVERYWHERE along the RI Ave area from where we conducted our watch party :uhuh: :uhuh: :uhuh:

stiff tip 08-21-2009 08:23 AM

your all a bunch of girls !!!!!! it was great fishing in the canal before and after huricane bob. saw whales and dolfins ,crazy sh t . bass on chunk pogies was good.. 91 was the last big blow that came through w/100+ winds,boats at mo beach were on shore road 200 ft from the water. lost power for 6 days . borrowed 5000kw from a friend.. now i have my own 8500kw hooked up.... 6gal = 12hrs. u hear them all through the area...glad i got mine .....

striperman36 08-21-2009 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BassDawg (Post 706702)
i was living in NPT and working under Chef Hawver at the White Horse in '91. i'll never forget the hurricane whose eye passed right over 1st Beach,,,,,,,,,,,,i believe it was Bob? don't know if that's the one you meant Crafty~~but it was AWESOME walking around 1st Beach during the EYE, the surf was crashing onto the first lane of Memorial Blvd, and there were trees down EVERYWHERE along the RI Ave area from where we conducted our watch party :uhuh: :uhuh: :uhuh:

It was Bob...

striperman36 08-21-2009 09:30 AM

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwp...s_slp_054s.gif


54 has the precip cone just east of us

Joe 08-21-2009 10:10 AM

Looks like a miss...

striperman36 08-21-2009 11:12 AM

Just precip. 1-3 max, swells and 30kt winds

capecodkid 08-21-2009 11:54 AM

I got a tuna charter on Tuesday, I hope these swells lay down by then.

Back Beach 08-21-2009 12:28 PM

Lets face it here.....nobody knows wtf this system is going to do...all the fancy projections, data, graphs, hunches, farmers almanac, historical data etc, recurring arthritis, diarrhea....we may just very well get our butt whipped for all anyone knows...lets just hope not...

I just need to make sure my headlamp has batteries so I can do some fishing...off to CVS.

Karl F 08-21-2009 06:27 PM

Crafty...the one in 96, that took a quick turn and left us alone, was Edourd...
I was on the beach in my camper, and got a knock on the door as i was cooking breakfast, telling me to leave the beach.... asked if i could finish breakfast, and was told to Hurry Up!...

The Birds left this AM, not a peep, or any activity at the feeder... the air is Florida Funky... after no wind or breeze for 3 days, it is starting to kick up, could be the other front from the west, who knows??... heard one forecaster say that tomorrow night/Sunday AM, the farthest east point on CC wil get 40-50 mph winds, heavy rains, and rip tides, and heavy surf...12-20 foot seas... we got 11.2 feet high tide at 2 AM Sunday too..can't get much farther east, than where i is...
Orleans has already posted that Nauset ORV will close Satruday and Sunday, and will be re-evaluated on Monday.....
Bill's center, they keep saying will pass 200 miles, (approx) to our east....
that's close enuf....but...like i been telling folks...we will know Monday AM for sure, what the damn thing will have done...and not until then...

lots of boats either getting moved into the inshore ponds and such, or downright hauled out today....
one local hauler quipped...the ones that is payed for, got hauled,...the ones with lots of $Paper$, and good insurance... are still moored :D

Storm Bottles!!!..get your Storm Bottles ... :buds:

spence 08-21-2009 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe (Post 706599)
There's a good book, A Wind To Shake The World, about the 38' Hurricane. It was written by a summer resident that had one of the forty or so cottages that lined Napatree Point.

Definitely a good read. A simple book that doesn't take long, but will bring a whole new perspective to many areas we're all familiar with.

-spence


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