No you didn't, you need to read the speech. And that is exactly the problem.

"Struggling communities, especially immigrant communities, will also be helped by immigration policies that focus on the best interests of American workers and American families.

For decades, open borders have allowed drugs and gangs to pour into our most vulnerable communities. They have allowed millions of low-wage workers to compete for jobs and wages against the poorest Americans. Most tragically, they have caused the loss of many innocent lives.

Here tonight are two fathers and two mothers: Evelyn Rodriguez, Freddy Cuevas, Elizabeth Alvarado, and Robert Mickens. Their two teenage daughters -- Kayla Cuevas and Nisa Mickens -- were close friends on Long Island. But in September 2016, on the eve of Nisa's 16th Birthday, neither of them came home. These two precious girls were brutally murdered while walking together in their hometown. Six members of the savage gang MS-13 have been charged with Kayla and Nisa's murders. Many of these gang members took advantage of glaring loopholes in our laws to enter the country as unaccompanied alien minors - and wound up in Kayla and Nisa's high school.

Evelyn, Elizabeth, Freddy, and Robert: Tonight, everyone in this chamber is praying for you. Everyone in America is grieving for you. And 320 million hearts are breaking for you. We cannot imagine the depth of your sorrow, but we can make sure that other families never have to endure this pain.

Tonight, I am calling on the Congress to finally close the deadly loopholes that have allowed MS-13, and other criminals, to break into our country. We have proposed new legislation that will fix our immigration laws, and support our ICE and Border Patrol Agents, so that this cannot ever happen again."

FNN....:biglaugh:

I like the part where Trump boasted about how his tax cuts gave the average middle class worker 'thousands' in tax savings, but omitted mentioning who really got the lions share of the tax cuts... the super rich.

GOP agenda is to always tell the poor white man that he is better than someone else. That someone else in a worse situation is coming for him to steal his situation, while never ever ever mentioning who holds all the cards and is the true threat to the poor white man. The rich white man.

which part of that do you have a problem with?

And there is nothing he has done that can diminish your unwavering support ... I am amazed how easy it was to forget the past 8 years ... now the shoes on the other foot people on the right want others to be objective and stop picking on Trump.

He wasn't even bashing all illegals. He said that when we look the other way on illegal immigration, the side effect is that SOME of the illegals will be dangerous criminals. How can anyone disagree with that?

whoever thought a Kennedy giving the rebuttal with a car in the background with the hood up was a good idea.... was not thinking clearly... :hihi:

.... you crack me up

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You officially have a GOP koolaid mustache. ... Nunes memo is nothing more than running interference for the potus .. and sending the country down a rabbit hole

So why do I agree with Democrats on the death penalty and gay marriage?

have you read it?

A quote from LBJ ( yes a democrat)

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."

I see this mentality as an adopted tactic by the GOP

The gop just doubled the standard deduction, meaning more of those poor whites will pay no taxes. Every single democrat voted against that. But it’s the gop that’s picking their pockets, eh?
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Once again filled with boasts about all he has done, yet that facts and stats don’t lie, I’m surprised his own staff isn’t fact checking before he claims that crap.
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They know its stealing from peter to pay paul in a way. Someone will have to pay for these tax cuts. Take a good look at your kids tonight when you kiss them goodnight. The GOP is screwing them in so many ways. public school education cuts, trashing the environment, federal debt.. its a shame that I am called a liberal because I care about the environment, about educating the future of this country, protecting the rights of our citizens, and being respected by the rest of the world.

So when you were a Bernie supporter and he was giving everybody "Free" Education and stuff....no problem

But NOW........you're worried about somebody having to pay for this. :rolleyes:

I was always worried about who was going to pay for it.
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Bernie & his followers were betting on all the new tax revenue from legal weed
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And what would be wrong with that?
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Taxation is theft

So is not paying your debts and obligations. (National debt)

So is not paying your employees a living wage and they have to rely on food stamps, yet you are a billionaire.
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Thats the key who's read it ...who alone wrote it and why and who has been promoting it all in an attempt to discredit the FBI and the muller investigation... seems obvious to even the casual observer

In early 2017, he was criticized for bias in a congressional investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections.[3][4] On April 6, 2017, he temporarily stepped aside from leading that investigation while the Office of Congressional Ethics investigates charges that he improperly disclosed classified information to the public, but he remains committee chairman for other purposes. Nunes has denied the allegations.[5][6] The Office of Congressional Ethics later cleared Nunes of allegations that he disclosed classified information to the public.[7][6] His attacks on the FBI and the investigation by independent counsel Robert Mueller have created concerns about GOP efforts to halt the investigation and to protect Trump from any allegations against him.[8]

But now he generates his own memo .... amazing

You don’t put out a fire by pouring fuel on it.
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What worries me is we have saved everybody from having to pay for Obamacare and have not even tried to fix the medical cost conundrum, are trillions in debt and now we need to build a wall to keep out immigrants and add to our roughly 5000 nuclear weapons because somebody else with bad hair has 10. Other than the Russians nobody has 10% of what we do currently. Look and see how many nukes the Chinese have, latest estimate I see is 260, probably plenty to F the world up.
Think about how this works. If I am a very rich man my illnesses might kill me but can never bankrupt me, even if i self insure. And as a rich man, I own stock in the companies that provide insurance, drugs and healthcare and make the profit I deserve(hey just because you don't have any capital its not my fault) I don't think I should have to help anyone else. But I need protection for the things I have and my way of life so i need you to fight for me for a pittance and finance my war machine. Oh by the way I make a lot more money from the military by supplying the armaments that you need to protect me.
Think about when you were a kid, who owned the store on the corner, the gas station, the butcher, the baker, the hardware store, etc. they lived in the community and made some money. Who owns those places now and where does the money go? I bet the manager in the convenience store you get coffee at makes a bit over minimum wage and your money goes to corporate america, not your neighbor and fellow local taxpayer.
So much for the top 10% and I assume the rest of you are with me in the bottom 90% of Americans.
What I want is to work together to control costs to a reasonable limit for Healthcare, Infrastructure, Military and other needs. Maybe that makes me a liberal, but I kinda think it makes me a reasonable person. Rant over

which you've not read but wrote


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... Nunes memo is nothing more than running interference for the potus ..



is this a Nebelike prediction or "fact" ?

Oh my god Pete, you sound like a commie pinko snowflake! ;)
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Is that a good thing?

Based on everything I've seen the Nunes memo is nothing more than a stunt, possibly coordinated with the White House.

The is the worst kind of political malpractice at the expense of the FBI.

YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING

A lot of very credible people have. Look at the drama around this and it's pretty clear what this is all about.

Actually I just read Ron Paul’s tweets and they are better than the path we’ve been on the past twenty years But I can see a little control
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FBI itself which complained of "material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo's accuracy".


or in layman's terms complete BS

ALTERNATIVE FACTS
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"Based on everything I've seen the Nunes memo is nothing more than a stun"

Given that all the "news" you see is from MSNBC and Al-Jazeera, I'm not surprised.

"The is the worst kind of political malpractice at the expense of the FBI"

Not at the expense of the entire FBI. At the expense of a small number of high-level people who are likely political appointees with a political agenda.

"A lot of very credible people have"

And some of those credible people are saying there's a scandal there.

"Look at the drama around this and it's pretty clear what this is all about"

If the memo is, as you would say, a nothingburger, why is the left so desperate to prevent it from coming out?

Jim, Trump's Republican appointed FBI Director doesn't want it released.

Sounds like it reveals highly classified methods and per the FBI's statement... “As expressed during our initial review, we have grave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.”

What I found even more interesting is that the FISA request in question wasn't even new. Carter Page had been under investigation for some time as a suspected Russian stooge. This FISA request was simply to renew the surveillance order.

This is a stunt intended to undermine the FBI.

Well then get Hillary on it, she'll get that chit out to the known free world in no time.

and the Repub. are claiming that the reason for the FISA request was the Steele document but it makes no difference what caused the FBI requested it. It is just more noise. Pathetic.

Don't forget that the Repub. appointed FBI Director didn't only say concerns, he said "grave concerns".

Why not release the Dems. memo? The Repubs. will stop at nothing to protect Trump - even tear down our institutions.

I watched some of the speech again, and the democrats' reactions (mostly sitting there scowling, looking angry and sullen).

I have a LOT of issues with Trump. But I will say this, I have never seen anyone better, at making his opponents look stupid. There are times when Trump is the one who looks ugly, no doubt. But more often than not, he makes laughing stocks out of his adversaries, which makes them hate him more, and he loves it.

He praises a little boy for setting motion an effort to put thousands of American flags on the graves of deceased vets, and there are the Democrats, sitting there looking angry. He praises black unemployment being low, and there are the democrats, including the congressional black caucus, looking pissed.

You watch that, and unless you are a committed liberal, you ask yourself...what do these people stand for, and who do they represent? I think their entire political identity and agenda can be reduced to this...they hate Trump. And that's it. That's all they have. They have gone all-in on hating Trump, all their eggs are in that basket.

It may be enough to take back the house. Or it may blow up in their faces. If their entire political strategy is to say "I hate the guy who helped increase the size of your paycheck", America might not give a rat's azz.

Why would the Repub. care? They hardly uttered peep when
Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting. It jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State. They defended the outing of a US spy - Plame.