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Old 01-29-2018, 08:45 AM   #1
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State of the Union Speach

Here is what I expect. Trump will take full credit for the sun rising, the moon moving our waters, the love fest that is the USA today, the best stock market EVER, the healthiest economy EVER, the lowest jobless rate EVER, being the smartest POTUS EVER, having the highest IQ of any POTUS EVER and you can fill in the rest of the blanks.

I don't know if I can get myself to listen to it. If he stays on the script that hopefully someone helps him write, I assume it will be palpable and hopefully more positive; although I don't know if he can help himself from going rogue. Especially in light of the investigation getting closer to the oval office, I'm not sure he won't take the opportunity to take a shot at the FBI and Mueller. Then he knows the porn star he paid off (I know fake news) is on Kimmel right after, so I suspect he might be taking a shot at the fake news media too. I don't know if we can expect him to reach across the isle to encourage cooperation moving forward to legislate a win-win immigration reform bill or health care fixes; he might just be himself and blame the DEMs for everything.

I will say, I'm enjoying the economy and the booming stock market and while Trump has made moves to get that rolling, we were headed in a positive direction long before he was elected. Still I have to give credit where credit is due and while I see us going backwards in time in many regards, we all win when the economy is strong.
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Old 01-29-2018, 08:55 AM   #2
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which party is in worse shape?

Trump is giving a State of the Union address

and/or

yet another Kennedy? and Maxine Waters are giving the SOTU responses...

most entertaining will be Trumps responses to the responses
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Old 01-29-2018, 10:04 AM   #3
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I voted for him, would do so again against Hilary, but I won't watch. Can't. It made me sick to watch Obama speak, it makes me sick to watch Trump speak.

Everything good is because of him, everything bad is someone else's fault. When was the last time we heard something other than that?
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Old 01-29-2018, 10:32 AM   #4
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which party is in worse shape?
The dems haven't been this obscure in my lifetime.

The midterms will be fascinating, so many competing forces. Liberals tend not to vote in big numbers in midterms, which helps the GOP. But the Trump effect could offset that, which hurts the GOP. The president's party usually loses seats in the midterms (though rarely as many as Obama lost), which would seem to hurt the GOP. But the economy is rolling, which will help the GOP.

If I'm a republican, I hammer home this idea..."your paycheck is bigger because of the tax reform. Every single democrat in DC voted against that. Every single one of them, voted against our desire for you to keep a little more of your money", and never stop hammering that home. Never.

The GOP will keep the Senate. Most people say if the midterms were today, the Dems would re-take the House. These are the same exact people who convinced me that Trump was going to get creamed. SO who knows...
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I forecast a speech that mimics Mussolini on queluds.
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Old 01-29-2018, 11:31 AM   #6
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I expect not one republican to sit the entire address . The next day it will be tweeted as the longest standing or most standing Ovations .. I can tell you
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THAT I would watch!! But it will probably be the typical partisan state of the union speech with a generous sprinkling of Trumpian self love--so I won't.
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Old 01-29-2018, 11:33 AM   #8
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He's such a narcissist, maybe he'll claim that one day historians will view his inauguration, as the day the waters stopped rising and the planet began to heal. Oh wait, another President said that about himself...
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Old 01-29-2018, 11:35 AM   #9
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I expect not one republican to sit the entire address . The next day it will be tweeted as the longest standing or most standing Ovations .. I can tell you
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Just out of curiosity, what do you think the Democrats did when Obama gave this address? Did they heckle him and throw fruit at him?

If the GOP gives 80 standing ovations instead of the 75 Obama got, you conclude what, exactly?
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Old 01-29-2018, 11:42 AM   #10
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would you pm me some powerball numbers for this week?
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:03 PM   #11
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What I’m certain is trump will be reading a TelePrompTer and someone else wrote it.
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Old 01-29-2018, 03:54 PM   #13
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I think that's the case for most formal addresses. But if Trump did decide to go off script and wing it how would you know
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Old 01-29-2018, 04:27 PM   #14
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I think that's the case for most formal addresses. But if Trump did decide to go off script and wing it how would you know
No multisyllabic words, just the best, bigly ones

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Old 01-29-2018, 06:19 PM   #15
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No multisyllabic words, just the best, bigly ones
He will certainly be saying what they think people want to hear...then contradict it all within the week.
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Old 01-29-2018, 07:01 PM   #16
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I've always watched them regardless of who the president is. Feel its my obligation as an American citizen. I may or may not like what I hear but at least I made the effort to hear them out.

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Old 01-29-2018, 08:09 PM   #17
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I've always watched them regardless of who the president is. Feel its my obligation as an American citizen. I may or may not like what I hear but at least I made the effort to hear them out.
This. And to give them a fair shake. We are in this together.

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Old 01-29-2018, 08:49 PM   #18
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I'm also one who has watched every speech. Funny thing is probably 95% of them I end up saying great speech and then later saying on retrospect I disagree with this and I disagree with that.
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Old 01-30-2018, 10:37 PM   #21
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First one I refused to listen to, at all. I just decided I did not feel like being lied to or being played for being stupid.... He will flip on some of the stuff he said anyway.

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Old 01-30-2018, 10:59 PM   #23
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Well played by Donald,almost could pass for presidential unless you actually follow him.
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Old 01-31-2018, 06:13 AM   #24
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It wasn't bad - the sour puss's of certain people was worth it
"It wasn't bad "

I was pleasantly surprised.


"the sour puss's of certain people was worth it"

Haven't enjoyed that much schadenfreude since the election. Princess Lie-awatha, in particular, seemed quite sour about the whole thing. Me think-um she want to live in tee-pee of Great White Chief.

And to show how forward-thinking the Democrats are, they trotted out a Kennedy to deliver the response. I guess no one in Chester A Arthur's family was available. As to the rumors he was drooling during the his response, I presume that in keeping with his heritage, there was a cute 13 year-old girl in the room.
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I also thought his choice of special guests was truly inspiring. When that North Korean defector was waving his crutches during his standing ovation, I had massive goose bumps and was on the verge of tears. If you weren't moved by that, you don't have a soul.

And when they showed poor Otto Warmbler's parents, I just lost it. It's time that fat sh*t dictator gets what's coming to him, I think the world has had about enough of that.
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I fore see Military action with in the year to boost lowest approval ratings ..

a lot of spending talked about ,, not sure how he's going to pay for it after cutting Taxes

labeled all immigrants as MS13 gang members ...

still wont move pass the NFL


"the sour puss's of certain people was worth it" He Childish as usual

but over all he stayed between the lines but still to Nationalistic for me
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I fore see Military action with in the year to boost lowest approval ratings ..
Maybe, though disagree on the ratings part because you should know this is a real security issue. Be a real shame if you could not process pros and cons (the latter terribly severe) in a logical manner rather than as simply another hit piece.

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a lot of spending talked about ,, not sure how he's going to pay for it after cutting Taxes
Tough call - with more people working and a cranking economy with greater growth than before - might just work.

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labeled all immigrants as MS13 gang members ...
No he didn't. Statements like this is why we have Trump.


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still wont move pass the NFL
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"the sour puss's of certain people was worth it" He Childish as usual
You missed the point - it was the sour puss face of all the Democrats (except for the few that occasionally forgot them selves and started to cheer before the daggers of reproach from fellow party members caught up to them.


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but over all he stayed between the lines but still to Nationalistic for me
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Can you show us the text where he said that, please?
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Can you show us the text where he said that, please?
"For decades, open borders have allowed drugs and gangs to pour into our most vulnerable communities. They have allowed millions of low-wage workers to compete for jobs and wages against the poorest Americans.Most tragically, they have caused the loss of many innocent lives. Here tonight are two fathers and two mothers, Evelyn Rodriguez, Freddy Cuevas, Elizabeth Alvarado, and Robert Mickens. Their two teenage daughters, Kayla Cuevas and Nisa Mickens, were close friends on Long Island."
Now Long Island is one of our most vulnerable communities, granted Brentwood is not the nicest neighborhood on LI.

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"For decades, open borders have allowed drugs and gangs to pour into our most vulnerable communities. They have allowed millions of low-wage workers to compete for jobs and wages against the poorest Americans.Most tragically, they have caused the loss of many innocent lives. Here tonight are two fathers and two mothers, Evelyn Rodriguez, Freddy Cuevas, Elizabeth Alvarado, and Robert Mickens. Their two teenage daughters, Kayla Cuevas and Nisa Mickens, were close friends on Long Island."
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(1) I'll ask again, where in that statement did he say all immigrants are gang members?

(2) what in that statement, exactly, would you say is untrue? Do you deny that having an open border with Mexico has allowed drugs and gang bangers to come in and do harm?

Not all immigrants are criminals. But, and this may be news to you, some are.
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