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detbuch 10-26-2013 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1019223)
This is completely missing the point. It's not about other elements being "code" for Obama being black. It's about using his race as "code" for all that other stuff.

-spence

And I'm still missing the point:

How is his race code for him being a Muslim? Most Muslims are not of his race. Why would making race a code for being Muslim be necessary. Either he's Muslim, which does not need a code to identify it, or he's not. Race has nothing to do with either.

How is his race code for being Kenyan? A person of his race could be from any country in Africa, or the West Indies, or from Detroit. Are white racists more so against Kenyans than other blacks.

What does race have to do with not being born in the USA? Most people of all races are not born in the USA. It is well known by the vast majority of Americans, if not, by some quirk, by all, that millions of blacks are born in the USA. Either you're born here or you're not-- No code is needed. A birth certificate is all that's needed.

Why is a "code" needed to point out that "he's not like us" if you're a white racist. Ditto for "he doesn't share our values". What's the point of a code for the obvious. On the other hand, sharing of values is not dependent on race. Many, many whites don't share common values. In the political arena not sharing values has to do with policy not race.

The "etc." might contain a code. Please spell it out.

Race being a "code" for all that stuff is as silly as all that stuff being a "code" for race.

scottw 10-27-2013 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1019253)
And I'm still missing the point:

How is his race code for him being a Muslim? Most Muslims are not of his race. Why would making race a code for being Muslim be necessary. Either he's Muslim, which does not need a code to identify it, or he's not. Race has nothing to do with either.

How is his race code for being Kenyan? A person of his race could be from any country in Africa, or the West Indies, or from Detroit. Are white racists more so against Kenyans than other blacks.

What does race have to do with not being born in the USA? Most people of all races are not born in the USA. It is well known by the vast majority of Americans, if not, by some quirk, by all, that millions of blacks are born in the USA. Either you're born here or you're not-- No code is needed. A birth certificate is all that's needed.

Why is a "code" needed to point out that "he's not like us" if you're a white racist. Ditto for "he doesn't share our values". What's the point of a code for the obvious. On the other hand, sharing of values is not dependent on race. Many, many whites don't share common values. In the political arena not sharing values has to do with policy not race.

The "etc." might contain a code. Please spell it out.

Race being a "code" for all that stuff is as silly as all that stuff being a "code" for race.

all of this abstract nonsense and he still can't come up with 1 concrete name :)


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