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detbuch 10-03-2015 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1083184)
You could still CCW on campus. I saw an interview with a vet packing who said he didn't intervene because he didn't want the cops to confuse him with the killer.

So what's the point of packing if you don't use the package? Not sure, but I would guess the vet would have intervened if the killer was pointing his gun at him. Too bad, if he had the opportunity, he didn't intervene before others were being killed.

Guns are discouraged but it's not illegal. This is just more "criminals are attracted to gun free zones" nonsense from the NRA.

Why is that nonsense? Wouldn't a gun free zone be more attractive to a mass murderer than one where most people are "packing"? And even if CCW's were legal, wouldn't a gathering of minors who probably weren't armed be more attractive to the killer than a group of adults who may well have been?

Nebe 10-03-2015 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1083184)
You could still CCW on campus. I saw an interview with a vet packing who said he didn't intervene because he didn't want the cops to confuse him with the killer.

Guns are discouraged but it's not illegal. This is just more "criminals are attracted to gun free zones" nonsense from the NRA.

Translation. I was too busy hiding behind a desk.
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spence 10-03-2015 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1083186)
Why is that nonsense? Wouldn't a gun free zone be more attractive to a mass murderer than one where most people are "packing"? And even if CCW's were legal, wouldn't a gathering of minors who probably weren't armed be more attractive to the killer than a group of adults who may well have been?

I think you just answered your own question.

scottw 10-03-2015 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1083184)
You could still CCW on campus. I saw an interview with a vet packing who said he didn't intervene because he didn't want the cops to confuse him with the killer.

Guns are discouraged but it's not illegal. This is just more "criminals are attracted to gun free zones" nonsense from the NRA.

"Under state law, people in Oregon could carry concealed firearms on college campuses like the one where a gunman killed nine people and wounded several others on Thursday. However, Umpqua Community College has been established as a gun-free zone thanks to a loophole in state law that has made every third-level institution in the state almost entirely gun-free. Here’s how that works."

http://www.vocativ.com/news/236421/t...n-campus-laws/

the point is that ne're-do-well's don't give a crap about "zones"

tysdad115 10-03-2015 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1083184)

Guns are discouraged but it's not illegal. This is just more "criminals are attracted to gun free zones" nonsense from the NRA.

This certainly explains why so many mass shootings occur at gun ranges where many people have firearms. More left stupidity..
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JohnR 10-03-2015 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1083169)
strange times...illegal and prescribed drugs fuel "creativity" and detach from reality..media fuels lack of regard for human life .....no love...no purpose...no predicting what one will do...

Hard to figure out, right? You can legalize pot in places but firearms should be confiscated?? :huh:

You will pry this bong from my cold-dead-dorito-cheesed hands.

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1083184)
You could still CCW on campus. I saw an interview with a vet packing who said he didn't intervene because he didn't want the cops to confuse him with the killer.

Guns are discouraged but it's not illegal. This is just more "criminals are attracted to gun free zones" nonsense from the NRA.

Yes and no, not all "Gun Free Zones" are created equal and some GFZs trump the CCW permit.

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1083191)
I think you just answered your own question.

Apples / Oranges. THIS guy chose the school because it was personal, not be cause he was trying for the maxim shock factor (like an elementary)

Jim in CT 10-03-2015 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1083161)
Jim. Can you pls post a.link to an article where the Dems. accused Thomas of rape. I don't recall that.
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You got me, it was sexual harassment they accused him of.
I answered your question. Any chance you can show me the same courtesy? You said that the black shooting victims were in a SC church, therefore being I church didn't save them. When did I ever say that nothing bad can happen to anyone when they are in church? I await your answer.

Sea Dangles 10-03-2015 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1083130)

I don't live in SD. But guess what? I am aware, and I can say with perfect validity, that violent crime is pretty close to zero there (despite the fact that guns are everywhere), and most people who live there, will tell you that religion has a lot to do with that. You are denying that, because it's not convenient to your current beliefs. That's your issue, not mine.

Please tell me when I denied that Jim. Why are you saying I denied this?
Also this statistic you made up about violent crime is close to zero...How in the world does over 2700 violent crimes equal close to zero in your mind?
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PaulS 10-03-2015 12:42 PM

Jim, I didn't say that. It was seadangles. I'm way better looking.
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Nebe 10-03-2015 02:03 PM

Jim!! You know what absolutely kills me??? Look at this link for South Dakota.

Take note of the hate crime index.
What does this say about your Christian utopia called the Dakotas???

http://www.usa.com/south-dakota-stat...crime-rate.htm
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spence 10-03-2015 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1083201)
Apples / Oranges. THIS guy chose the school because it was personal, not be cause he was trying for the maxim shock factor (like an elementary)

That's exactly the point. Nearly all mass shootings have a personal connection underneath the motive. The argument that gun free zones are a lure is a myth concocted by those who want you to believe more guns is always the solution...

scottw 10-03-2015 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1083255)
The argument that gun free zones are a lure is a myth concocted by those who want you to believe more guns is always the solution...

no one argued that gun free zones are "a lure"...your myth is a myth...they sure make an easy target however....the argument is that gun free zones don't seem to stop psychos with guns...and that psychos with guns can probably anticipate less resistance in a gun free zone


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