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Megabyte 10-06-2006 09:08 PM

Whats your favorite surf/bass book ?
 
Whats's your favorite surfcasting for bass book?

Winters comin' and I need something to keep me from going crazeee.

Nebe 10-06-2006 09:12 PM

check out "Striper" by john Cole.. not really about surf casting, but its some damn good writing. I just picked up "Fishing came first" by the same author-(non striper related) so far i would say it was the book that inspired david bendetto(sp?) to write "On the Run" (another good read)

daignault's books are ok too.

striprman 10-06-2006 09:58 PM

Bluefishing by Henry Lyman

Flaptail 10-07-2006 05:01 AM

There are several.

1st. Woolner-Lyman's 1954 Edition of "Striped Bass Fishing"
2nd. Ollie Rodman's (who created Saltwater Sportsman) "The Saltwater Fisherman's Favorite Four"
3rd. Van Campen Hielner's "The call of the Surf"
4th. Genio C. Scott's "Fishing in American Waters"
5th. Frank Daignault's "Twenty Years on the Cape"
6th. Capt' Phil Schwind's "Cape Cod Fisherman" ( This is the book I asked to be buried with me when I go to the big beach in the sky)
7th. Nick Kara's "Striped Bass"
8th. George W. Rieger's "Profiles in Saltwater Angling" (pay spcl. attention to the chapters on Rodman, Woolner and Rhinefelder)
9th. Robert Post's "Reading the Water"

And lastly I am reserving the 10th spot for Dennis Zambrotta's "The Snowstorm Blitz" after publishing.

piemma 10-07-2006 05:13 AM

READING THE WATER. Some of the best stories from back when there were large everywhere

Back Beach 10-07-2006 05:15 AM

Shining tides= very good, but fiction.

"On the Run" rocks! I like it because it incorporates numbers of truly different characters in different places. Also, its a "now" book, which appeals to me. Some of the "good old days" books get boring listening to people brag about their old exploits. The guy(Benedetto) is a freakin nut, but a very articulate author. Great read.

Reading the water is good too.

Flaptail 10-07-2006 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Back Beach
Shining tides= very good, but fiction.

"On the Run" rocks! I like it because it incorporates numbers of truly different characters in different places. Also, its a "now" book, which appeals to me. Some of the "good old days" books get boring listening to people brag about their old exploits. The guy(Benedetto) is a freakin nut, but a very articulate author. Great read.

Reading the water is good too.

It wouldn't be that boring if you had lived it. And if you take the time to read between the lines you can always learn something. Time tides and place are still the same, know what I mean?

BigFish 10-07-2006 06:47 AM

I just picked up an original copy of "Striper" by John Cole! Planning on starting it after the rods get put away! Its on the coffee table right now! "Surfcasters Quest" by Roy Rowan is my favorite! They just re-issued it about a year ago and you can find it in most stores and on-line!!! "Striper Chronicles" by Leo N. Orsi Jr. is also a great read!!!:read:

Back Beach 10-07-2006 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Flaptail
It wouldn't be that boring if you had lived it. And if you take the time to read between the lines you can always learn something. Time tides and place are still the same, know what I mean?


I hear you, but I still like the "now" stories. Have plenty of good old days stories myself,and I did live it, but I always get the impression that people don't want to hear them.Like one of my fishing partners always says"these guys from the 70's are still running around with their freshman letterman's sweaters on,they need to get with the times". That said, I spend hours on the phone sometimes listening to Tony C. Truly fascinating stories, and like you said, some things are timeless.I was actually influenced by T.C. big time with regard to the "now" thing. His take is leave the 70's in the 70's, that was a long time ago. Would like to get him to write a book about it, though. Slightly off topic guys, sorry.

eelman 10-07-2006 07:58 AM

"To Catch A Bass" Tim Coleman...........

Megabyte 10-07-2006 08:36 AM

I thought to "Catch a Bass" was written by the "#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&" !

BigFish 10-07-2006 08:37 AM

That was...."To Kill A Bass"!:jump:

Karl F 10-07-2006 08:59 AM

Back Beach
 
as TC says.. "But,...What are you catching now?"

I do like hearing of the then, as well, and agree.. he needs to write that book. :uhuh:

cow tamer 10-07-2006 09:15 AM

Some others of mention include:
1/ Secrets of Surf Fishing at Night by William Muller
2/ Striper Surf by Frank Daignault
3/ Inshore Fly Fishing by Lou Tabory
4/ Stripers on the Fly by Lou Tabory
5/ Successful Striped Bass Fishing by Frank Moss
6/ Fishing New England: RI Shore Guide by Gene Bourque
(there are others for different locations)
7/ Fishing for Striped Bass by Gary Caputi
8/ Night Tides (story of Billy the Greek) by Michael Cinquemani
9/ Bait Tail Fishing by Al Reinfield (of Alou Eel fame)

Krispy 10-07-2006 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"To Catch A Bass" Tim Coleman...........

"Bass from the Beach" Tim Coleman............

Joe 10-07-2006 09:40 AM

I'm intrigued by what Surfcasting Rhode Island Press has planned....:hihi:

Tagger 10-07-2006 09:55 AM

My 20 yrs. as a Surf Caster,,,,even though alot of codders don't like Franky D for coming out with it .. I like the whole book but especially the begining . When they use to be able to drive 75 miles on the beach and there were no rules how long you could stay on . Then the raising the family, on the beach, all the kids chipping in, helping make a living fishing . They had so much freedom back then ,,,like America or something .. To me the book has a Last Frontier feel . Family feel . I'll have to re-read it .. Remember at the time, everyone pissed Frank gave away too much .. Now with the intterrnet the point is kinda mute..

Mike P 10-07-2006 10:00 AM

Depends what you're looking for.

If you want a book to read by the fire with a smattering of "how-to" between the lines, Daignault's "20 Years on the Cape" and "Eastern Tides" are good, along with "Reading the Water" and John Hershey's "Blues". Or any of Phil Schwind's books.

For "how-to" stuff, Daignault's "Striper Surf" and Richard Reina's "Surf Fishing With the Experts" are good, along with William "Doc" Muller's works. Eric Burnley and C. Boyd Pfeiffer also have similar books. You'll get conflicting opinions on equipment choices, but the actual fishing stuff is pretty good.

Jack Fallon also had a nice book out some years ago--likely out of print, as are Vlad Everoff's books in all likelihood.

Joe 10-07-2006 10:18 AM

It's interesting to note that Van Campen Heilner was only in his early twenties when he wrote The Call Of The Surf. I wonder what kind of reception a young person would get today if he were to presume to know enough to write on the subject? You think that he would be welcomed with open arms by the surfcasting community or dismissed based upon the fact that he did not have 30 or 40 years experience?
But, alas - he was smart enough to write the first book of the genre. One of the advantages of being first at anything is that the critics have yet to emerge.
Robert Post is widely credited with writing Reading The Water - however the book is really a collection of first-person narratives. Dr. Post did write the preface and epilogue and some anecdotes that contribute greatly - and I'm quite sure he edited the essays, but in essence, other fishermen wrote that book.
Take note of how many of the great books are niether how-to nor where-to. How-To’s and Where-To’s are manuals – and really should not be compared to Striper, Twenty Years, Blues, Reading The Water, etc. They sell more, but they won’t win a National Book Award.
So with respect to that “other” type of book, gauchely referred to as “mood books” by the outdoor press, the skill sets are somewhat different than the manuals.
For books of a more literary nature, the author should have a passion for fishing and should be proficient with respect to his fishing skills, but what makes a great book is the not age or experience of the author but rather the soundness of his vision and his ability to coherently articulate a story and emotionally connect with readers.

redneck24 10-07-2006 01:10 PM

on the run #1. i also really enjoyed surfcasters quest.

luds 10-07-2006 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by piemma
READING THE WATER. Some of the best stories from back when there were large everywhere

yup

fishaholic18 10-07-2006 01:23 PM

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"To Catch A Bass" Tim Coleman...........

Let me borrow that Bill.http://pro.imagehost.biz/ims/pictes/341897.gif

wheresmy50 10-07-2006 02:15 PM

[/QUOTE=Joe]I wonder what kind of reception a young person would get today if he were to presume to know enough to write on the subject? You think that he would be welcomed with open arms by the surfcasting community or dismissed based upon the fact that he did not have 30 or 40 years experience?
[/QUOTE]

IMHO, it's so difficult to quantify skill when you release most of your fish that the only way many people judge a surfcaster is by years in the water.

I hope that people would judge the quality of the writing and the strength of the content, but I doubt it.

Anyway:
1) 20 Years - Daignault
2) Reading the Water - Post
3) Secrets of Surfcasting at Night - Bentsen (the best chapters)

tattoobob 10-07-2006 08:20 PM

I think that the Daignault books have alot more info then you get on your first read I have read most of his books over and over and every time I something clicks that I didn't catch the other times I read. anyone can go and ask him a question, you may get a smart ass answer but he approachable.

The other book I loved was Leo Orsi "Striper Chronicles" great stories from Jamestown and Block Island. And like Franks books loaded with info between the lines.

Another great read is "The Salt-Water Bible" by Erwin Bauer

I loved "A River Runs Through It" Not saltwater but a great read of old Montana life.

tynan19 10-07-2006 09:57 PM

[QUOTE=Nebe]check out "Striper" by john Cole.. not really about surf casting, but its some damn good writing. I just picked up "Fishing came first" by the same author-(non striper related) so far i would say it was the book that inspired david bendetto(sp?) to write "On the Run" (another good read)
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Just finished it the other day. Great read but I got through it so fast that I thought the author could write another 400 pages on the subject. Seemed like a great story that had to end too fast. On The Run as well as Reading The Water are my favorites. My Reading The Water is falling apart I read it so much.

basswipe 10-08-2006 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Flaptail
And lastly I am reserving the 10th spot for Dennis Zambrotta's "The Snowstorm Blitz" after publishing.

:read: :uhuh:

patpatriot 10-09-2006 10:24 AM

havent read that many but "reading the water" is filled with good information along with great stories, its all about marthas vineyard surfcasting

Krispy 10-09-2006 10:52 AM

Actually, I think "Men's Lives" is my favorite S-B book

STREETFIGHT 10-09-2006 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Krispy
Actually, I think "Men's Lives" is my favorite S-B book

thats the one at the top of my list.....

striper by cole & "consider the eel" are the other two

numbskull 10-09-2006 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Krispy
Actually, I think "Men's Lives" is my favorite S-B book

I'll second this. Peter Matthiessen is a highly gifted writer (both fiction and nonfiction) and "Men's Lives" is an amazing account of the LI haul seining industry as it was squeezed away by "conservation/sport fishing" concerns. Easily the best book involving striped bass ever written (though not a "fishing book") and, if you think the fish pictures on this site are impressive, you should see the ones in this book.

Canalman 10-09-2006 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fishaholic18

You can borrow mine if ya want and Bass from the Beach:read:

FittyPoundah 02-21-2007 10:44 AM

Did some more reading this winter and wanted to weigh in on this thread, sorry for the bump. I generally enjoy the memoir and travelogue approach to How-To's, but both are equally important.

A few of my favorites:

River Runs Through It - No, not surf casting, but one of the best books out there, let alone on fishing. The last line gives me goosebumps everytime I read it and then makes me want to start all over again.

Easter Tides - is a close second. Fun read and really brought me back to days on the Race and Nauset with my dad fishing when I was a little kid. (20 Years... was really good too, but I preferred ET).

Reading the Water - was the first surf book I bought and still is one of the best

On The Run - was well-written and was such an unforgettable adventure. Made me want to follow in the DiBenedetto's footsteps.

Blues - Hate the fish, but loved how the book dealt with a lot of the more abstract ideas of why fishing is such a great way of life.


As far as How-To's:

I think Striper Surf is the best.

And I think OTW Anthology is also very well done. One of the first fishing books I actually used a highlighter while reading.

I still like the Woolner and Lyman books as well, the Buggies section in Modern Saltwater Sports Fishing is fantastic to a youngster like me.

bassmaster 02-21-2007 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Flaptail (Post 422634)
It wouldn't be that boring if you had lived it. And if you take the time to read between the lines you can always learn something. Time tides and place are still the same, know what I mean?

what stupid said

Mr. Sandman 02-21-2007 10:56 AM

All of the above are quite good. I just scanned this threat to see what my libarary was missing....I am in pretty good shape the only book I don't have is Capt' Phil Schwind's "Cape Cod Fisherman"....Hmmm, need to dig around for that one with a review like that!

I would recommend "The Surfcasters Quest". I really enjoyed that book and felt like I was walking around with the author fishing BI. Not a how-to but more of a why we do what we do kind of book but in the process takes you down an interesting path.

Backbeach Jake 02-21-2007 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tagger (Post 422698)
My 20 yrs. as a Surf Caster,,,,even though alot of codders don't like Franky D for coming out with it .. I like the whole book but especially the begining . When they use to be able to drive 75 miles on the beach and there were no rules how long you could stay on . Then the raising the family, on the beach, all the kids chipping in, helping make a living fishing . They had so much freedom back then ,,,like America or something .. To me the book has a Last Frontier feel . Family feel . I'll have to re-read it .. Remember at the time, everyone pissed Frank gave away too much .. Now with the intterrnet the point is kinda mute..

There's my quote of the month!

goosefish 02-21-2007 02:30 PM

The best fishing books teach us about respect. And they do this by teaching us how to fish. The very best fishing books are about place and about character and less about the knots that we use to connect mono to braid.

chris L 02-21-2007 03:39 PM

would someone be willing to read me a couple of these books . I cant read ! never learned to properly read words silently . I seem to have to yell out each word just to get through one sentence . time consuming to say the least . Im going to go back to remedial reading soon .

I have had bobby post "reading the water" and nick karas " striped bass " read to me by my kids but my kids give me a rough time cause they think Im stupid cause I cant read correctly or quietly .

goosefish 02-21-2007 03:51 PM

I can read you "reading the water" in Mandarin if you'd like.

EricM 02-22-2007 12:35 AM

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Actually, I think "Men's Lives" is my favorite S-B book
This is on the top of my list as well. I go back to it in the middle of the winter often. Others on my shelf include:

Inshore Fly Fishing by Lou Taboury
Stripers and Streamers by Ray Bonderew
Night Tides, the Striper Fishing Legend of Billy the Greek
Hook Line and Sinker by Gary Soucie (great terminal tackle book, love it, great reading book as well.)
Through the Fish's Eye by Mark Sosin
What Fish See by Kageyama
McClane's Fishing Encyclopedia

Andy D 02-22-2007 07:36 AM

" Striper Chronicles " Leo Orsi


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