Whats your favorite surf/bass book ? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Megabyte · 10-06-2006, 09:08 PM

Whats's your favorite surfcasting for bass book?

Winters comin' and I need something to keep me from going crazeee.

Nebe · 10-06-2006, 09:12 PM

check out "Striper" by john Cole.. not really about surf casting, but its some damn good writing. I just picked up "Fishing came first" by the same author-(non striper related) so far i would say it was the book that inspired david bendetto(sp?) to write "On the Run" (another good read)

daignault's books are ok too.

striprman · 10-06-2006, 09:58 PM

Bluefishing by Henry Lyman

Flaptail · 10-07-2006, 05:01 AM

There are several.

1st. Woolner-Lyman's 1954 Edition of "Striped Bass Fishing"
2nd. Ollie Rodman's (who created Saltwater Sportsman) "The Saltwater Fisherman's Favorite Four"
3rd. Van Campen Hielner's "The call of the Surf"
4th. Genio C. Scott's "Fishing in American Waters"
5th. Frank Daignault's "Twenty Years on the Cape"
6th. Capt' Phil Schwind's "Cape Cod Fisherman" ( This is the book I asked to be buried with me when I go to the big beach in the sky)
7th. Nick Kara's "Striped Bass"
8th. George W. Rieger's "Profiles in Saltwater Angling" (pay spcl. attention to the chapters on Rodman, Woolner and Rhinefelder)
9th. Robert Post's "Reading the Water"

And lastly I am reserving the 10th spot for Dennis Zambrotta's "The Snowstorm Blitz" after publishing.

piemma · 10-07-2006, 05:13 AM

READING THE WATER. Some of the best stories from back when there were large everywhere

Back Beach · 10-07-2006, 05:15 AM

Shining tides= very good, but fiction.

"On the Run" rocks! I like it because it incorporates numbers of truly different characters in different places. Also, its a "now" book, which appeals to me. Some of the "good old days" books get boring listening to people brag about their old exploits. The guy(Benedetto) is a freakin nut, but a very articulate author. Great read.

Reading the water is good too.

Flaptail · 10-07-2006, 05:44 AM

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Shining tides= very good, but fiction.

"On the Run" rocks! I like it because it incorporates numbers of truly different characters in different places. Also, its a "now" book, which appeals to me. Some of the "good old days" books get boring listening to people brag about their old exploits. The guy(Benedetto) is a freakin nut, but a very articulate author. Great read.

Reading the water is good too.

It wouldn't be that boring if you had lived it. And if you take the time to read between the lines you can always learn something. Time tides and place are still the same, know what I mean?

BigFish · 10-07-2006, 06:47 AM

I just picked up an original copy of "Striper" by John Cole! Planning on starting it after the rods get put away! Its on the coffee table right now! "Surfcasters Quest" by Roy Rowan is my favorite! They just re-issued it about a year ago and you can find it in most stores and on-line!!! "Striper Chronicles" by Leo N. Orsi Jr. is also a great read!!!

Back Beach · 10-07-2006, 07:34 AM

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It wouldn't be that boring if you had lived it. And if you take the time to read between the lines you can always learn something. Time tides and place are still the same, know what I mean?

I hear you, but I still like the "now" stories. Have plenty of good old days stories myself,and I did live it, but I always get the impression that people don't want to hear them.Like one of my fishing partners always says"these guys from the 70's are still running around with their freshman letterman's sweaters on,they need to get with the times". That said, I spend hours on the phone sometimes listening to Tony C. Truly fascinating stories, and like you said, some things are timeless.I was actually influenced by T.C. big time with regard to the "now" thing. His take is leave the 70's in the 70's, that was a long time ago. Would like to get him to write a book about it, though. Slightly off topic guys, sorry.

eelman · 10-07-2006, 07:58 AM

"To Catch A Bass" Tim Coleman...........

Megabyte · 10-07-2006, 08:36 AM

I thought to "Catch a Bass" was written by the "#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&" !

BigFish · 10-07-2006, 08:37 AM

That was...."To Kill A Bass"!

Karl F · 10-07-2006, 08:59 AM

as TC says.. "But,...What are you catching now?"

I do like hearing of the then, as well, and agree.. he needs to write that book.

cow tamer · 10-07-2006, 09:15 AM

Some others of mention include:
1/ Secrets of Surf Fishing at Night by William Muller
2/ Striper Surf by Frank Daignault
3/ Inshore Fly Fishing by Lou Tabory
4/ Stripers on the Fly by Lou Tabory
5/ Successful Striped Bass Fishing by Frank Moss
6/ Fishing New England: RI Shore Guide by Gene Bourque
(there are others for different locations)
7/ Fishing for Striped Bass by Gary Caputi
8/ Night Tides (story of Billy the Greek) by Michael Cinquemani
9/ Bait Tail Fishing by Al Reinfield (of Alou Eel fame)

Krispy · 10-07-2006, 09:38 AM

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"To Catch A Bass" Tim Coleman...........

"Bass from the Beach" Tim Coleman............

Joe · 10-07-2006, 09:40 AM

I'm intrigued by what Surfcasting Rhode Island Press has planned....

Tagger · 10-07-2006, 09:55 AM

My 20 yrs. as a Surf Caster,,,,even though alot of codders don't like Franky D for coming out with it .. I like the whole book but especially the begining . When they use to be able to drive 75 miles on the beach and there were no rules how long you could stay on . Then the raising the family, on the beach, all the kids chipping in, helping make a living fishing . They had so much freedom back then ,,,like America or something .. To me the book has a Last Frontier feel . Family feel . I'll have to re-read it .. Remember at the time, everyone pissed Frank gave away too much .. Now with the intterrnet the point is kinda mute..

Mike P · 10-07-2006, 10:00 AM

Depends what you're looking for.

If you want a book to read by the fire with a smattering of "how-to" between the lines, Daignault's "20 Years on the Cape" and "Eastern Tides" are good, along with "Reading the Water" and John Hershey's "Blues". Or any of Phil Schwind's books.

For "how-to" stuff, Daignault's "Striper Surf" and Richard Reina's "Surf Fishing With the Experts" are good, along with William "Doc" Muller's works. Eric Burnley and C. Boyd Pfeiffer also have similar books. You'll get conflicting opinions on equipment choices, but the actual fishing stuff is pretty good.

Jack Fallon also had a nice book out some years ago--likely out of print, as are Vlad Everoff's books in all likelihood.

Joe · 10-07-2006, 10:18 AM

It's interesting to note that Van Campen Heilner was only in his early twenties when he wrote The Call Of The Surf. I wonder what kind of reception a young person would get today if he were to presume to know enough to write on the subject? You think that he would be welcomed with open arms by the surfcasting community or dismissed based upon the fact that he did not have 30 or 40 years experience?
But, alas - he was smart enough to write the first book of the genre. One of the advantages of being first at anything is that the critics have yet to emerge.
Robert Post is widely credited with writing Reading The Water - however the book is really a collection of first-person narratives. Dr. Post did write the preface and epilogue and some anecdotes that contribute greatly - and I'm quite sure he edited the essays, but in essence, other fishermen wrote that book.
Take note of how many of the great books are niether how-to nor where-to. How-To’s and Where-To’s are manuals – and really should not be compared to Striper, Twenty Years, Blues, Reading The Water, etc. They sell more, but they won’t win a National Book Award.
So with respect to that “other” type of book, gauchely referred to as “mood books” by the outdoor press, the skill sets are somewhat different than the manuals.
For books of a more literary nature, the author should have a passion for fishing and should be proficient with respect to his fishing skills, but what makes a great book is the not age or experience of the author but rather the soundness of his vision and his ability to coherently articulate a story and emotionally connect with readers.

redneck24 · 10-07-2006, 01:10 PM

on the run #1. i also really enjoyed surfcasters quest.

luds · 10-07-2006, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by piemma

READING THE WATER. Some of the best stories from back when there were large everywhere

yup

fishaholic18 · 10-07-2006, 01:23 PM

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"To Catch A Bass" Tim Coleman...........

Let me borrow that Bill.

wheresmy50 · 10-07-2006, 02:15 PM

[/QUOTE=Joe]I wonder what kind of reception a young person would get today if he were to presume to know enough to write on the subject? You think that he would be welcomed with open arms by the surfcasting community or dismissed based upon the fact that he did not have 30 or 40 years experience?
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IMHO, it's so difficult to quantify skill when you release most of your fish that the only way many people judge a surfcaster is by years in the water.

I hope that people would judge the quality of the writing and the strength of the content, but I doubt it.

Anyway:
1) 20 Years - Daignault
2) Reading the Water - Post
3) Secrets of Surfcasting at Night - Bentsen (the best chapters)

tattoobob · 10-07-2006, 08:20 PM

I think that the Daignault books have alot more info then you get on your first read I have read most of his books over and over and every time I something clicks that I didn't catch the other times I read. anyone can go and ask him a question, you may get a smart ass answer but he approachable.

The other book I loved was Leo Orsi "Striper Chronicles" great stories from Jamestown and Block Island. And like Franks books loaded with info between the lines.

Another great read is "The Salt-Water Bible" by Erwin Bauer

I loved "A River Runs Through It" Not saltwater but a great read of old Montana life.

tynan19 · 10-07-2006, 09:57 PM

[QUOTE=Nebe]check out "Striper" by john Cole.. not really about surf casting, but its some damn good writing. I just picked up "Fishing came first" by the same author-(non striper related) so far i would say it was the book that inspired david bendetto(sp?) to write "On the Run" (another good read)
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Just finished it the other day. Great read but I got through it so fast that I thought the author could write another 400 pages on the subject. Seemed like a great story that had to end too fast. On The Run as well as Reading The Water are my favorites. My Reading The Water is falling apart I read it so much.

basswipe · 10-08-2006, 08:33 AM

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And lastly I am reserving the 10th spot for Dennis Zambrotta's "The Snowstorm Blitz" after publishing.

patpatriot · 10-09-2006, 10:24 AM

havent read that many but "reading the water" is filled with good information along with great stories, its all about marthas vineyard surfcasting

Krispy · 10-09-2006, 10:52 AM

Actually, I think "Men's Lives" is my favorite S-B book

STREETFIGHT · 10-09-2006, 02:21 PM

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Actually, I think "Men's Lives" is my favorite S-B book

thats the one at the top of my list.....

striper by cole & "consider the eel" are the other two

numbskull · 10-09-2006, 02:53 PM

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Actually, I think "Men's Lives" is my favorite S-B book

I'll second this. Peter Matthiessen is a highly gifted writer (both fiction and nonfiction) and "Men's Lives" is an amazing account of the LI haul seining industry as it was squeezed away by "conservation/sport fishing" concerns. Easily the best book involving striped bass ever written (though not a "fishing book") and, if you think the fish pictures on this site are impressive, you should see the ones in this book.