One fa OJ
 

Messed ya Saturday man, was lookin forward to meeting ya...next time!

http://www.#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#...m/needles3.jpg


Subtle attempt at humor :D

Hey SALTY nice EYES

Hey bassmaster
 

Ya, Salty I just saw that one on your site. I never realized you were in the tackle biz.

I wonder if Dave knows his pic is also there:D

you salty bugger you.

hmmm not any more it's not :D

whatsamatter spoilsport :p

lol it's still there but ya just can't see it :D

I bustin his nuts enuf tonite :D

a whole crapload are missing! you wiped them out:fishslap: :bl2: :hf1: :hee: :boots:

:crying:

naah they all duplicates on the rest of the site.

Wow, look at you. With so many professionals there, I shoulda gone to the GTG.

Nice cuppa, bubba..... :)
--OJ

:D:happy:

OJ, Salty was over a while ago admiring your work (purple needle), I almost felt bad about putting that piece of ayc over his head :smash: but he wasn't leaving the house with my needle:D !! johnny "the Ratt Boy"

Aye, Ratty, ya busted a stick 'o wood in a good cause. Keep some more handy..... :) :) --OJ

ya bubba but did ya check ta make sure it's still there? :p

Oh, it's still there and you better watch out bandsaw boy or i'm reaching for the oak next time:D ! "the Ratt Boy"

haha! made ya look though didn't I :p

:doh: ;) "the Ratt Boy"

I didn't know there were so many professionals around either. Make plugs for 3 months on other people's blanks and all of a sudden you "specialize in wooden saltwater plugs". :confused: :rolleyes:

Charlie

Charlie I don't know what you're problem is but if you got something to say then take it offline ok?

Yep I been using the old Makati blanks for some plugs and making the rest on my duplicator, and have developed my own version of darters, swimmers, and mini poppers.
Got a problem with that? Like I said take it offline.

I don't have a problem with you selling plugs that you have copied. I thought it was funny that you could specialize in something after only doing it for 3 months. 3 months isn't a whole lot of time to do alot of research and design. No need to go offline with anything... you should be proud of your venture and look foward to defending your product, you get tons of free advertising, it's the least you could do.

Charlie

Funny, I took the tone of that as a slam to what I was doing.

Didn't notice any freshwater stuff on my site, did you? :rolleyes:

And for the record, i'm not looking for any free ads, i'm happily supporting this site and several others already.
:happy:

That was hardly a slam. I was refering to the fact you could specialize in building plugs after 3 months. It had nothing to do with if they were fresh or saltwater.

Charlie

I know a guy who made close to 100 versions of a darter before he settled on one that worked consistently the way it should.

But Im just gonna :hidin: over here

I dont think plug builders should fight. this is why alot of guys come and go like Me:smash: screw plugs Im taking up Drinking coffee and Pharting with Habs.
:D
I will Say If a Guy can fish and know what he wants in a plug, Then its a building learning curve.
Did any one see My popper all beat up from Blues and some Bass.
it was made 10 to 12 years ago and had screw eyes made from stainless and made from a oak dowell But it works...
and I saved doe not paying 7 or 8 bucks for a gibbs popper.
Sheit if I can whap a bugger plug with a hammer and not have the paint come off BTW Ill take one:) Then I think He is on the right track...
Take one of My ok plugs I guess and whap it off a rock and watch the epoxy come off, But Im a sand sissy:laughs:
So C,mon Guys No wars save it for the Gutter where we can swear and stuff.
C,mon No wars Guys....

Me 2:gf: :sled: :faga: :spam: master

WOW.

There's no war going on here, atleast I don't think there is, is there? :smash: :confused:

Charlie is just trying to make a point and voice his opinion of what seems like a short timespan that some go from novice to pro at making plugs. However the learning curve is so varied among people that generalizing is not necessarily fair. It seems Salty spends lots of his time involved in fishing and who are we to say he has only made plugs for 3 months. Krispy, how long did it take Tat to develop those dahtahs? Long time, huh?That is one plug that is time consuming. Some guys already are businessmen and selling plugs would just be another interest so they know some of the important things already about selling products., ofcourse if it's not really making money then it's more of a hobby and the IRS will look at it that way if no profit is shown after a certain number of years, just ask your accountant.

Ther are a lot of professionals out there, too many to count. Fishing tackle is big business, and these fishing forums make it known that lots of us obsessed fishermen and women are plug-a-holics, we can't get enough., gotta have some of everything for all the different situations. It would be too simple and unchallenging if 1 plug worked everywhere for all situations. So that is why there's romm for everybody to try and sell their wares.

I don't know where I'm going with this but who cares anyway.

It's a tribute thread to OJ, let's get back on track. He is the one who first posted a cup o needles:) and I'm sure he's flattered by others using that idea.

BM, what are you gonna do with thousands of plugs anyway? :smash:

Krispy, come out from under that rock :)

WOW WOW AND WOW

Yeh - what Slip said... :bsod:

And on a side note: #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& is going to be helping out here...

Here's to ya, boys.....:) :)
(first batch of the new year...if I can post the pic ok...) --OJ

http://C:\Documents and Settings\def...top\cuppa2.jpg

Who's fighting?:confused:

Slip, Im just watching over my back for the "Posse";)

BM, when did you ever "go", from a website?:p

OJ, i'm looking behind my head for that ayc again now thanks :D

Very nice needles :cool:

i don't know salty, i seem to recall seeing needlefish with that same eye cut being sold commerically by a builder whose lures are very common. looks like a clone to me.

i have to agree w/ charlie on this one. there seems to be a lot of instant lure builders in the past year that seemed to have just bought equipment within the last year. doesn't seem like too much r&d work has been done in that short of a timespan. originality is out and cloning/copying is in. this isn't important for the people that just want to build a few lures for fun for themselves (again, themselves), but for those that decide to build/sell commerciacally you better check what's out there first.

My lures aren't clones of anyone's lures.

Show me the same color patterns and eye ideas on other lures that look like that?

And for the record, i've been woodworking since I was 7 years old...so I didn't just buy the equipment and start this year as you profess. I got the carvings and furniture...wanna see some?

unreal.

I'm done with this. You guys can debate it all you want.

I love those needles OJ :D

OJ has nice needles

Salty, dont get upset, i think people are just looking and voicing their thoughts. Prove them wrong. There is room for everyone.

Oh so you're trying to say by posting that link that i'm copying Hab's?
Guess what you're wrong!
Know where I came up with that idea? I messed up drilling a eye one day...I WAS using 3/8" eyes and on a bunch of plugs the eyes ended up off center, so to fix them I overdrilled them. I liked how it looked and kept doing it on the next batch. Wanna see the rest of the plugs that are still sitting here cuz I wasn't happy with them? They're all hangin from the ceiling.

I never even SAW a Hab's plug until I bought one from Tim sometime in December to see what everyone was talking about. Wanna see the receipt?

Oh and maybe you should know that I spent probably 30 hours toying with a idea I had to weight a plug from the back....and fully planned on starting some like this, then I saw that Hab' already came up with the idea and I was bummed because I thought it WAS my own...so i'm not doing it.

And i'm not getting upset, but will tell you guys that I LIVE BREATH SLEEP plugs every day. Anyone that has been to my house will tell you that. I'm constantly dreaming up new ideas. NOT copying anyone else! I resent the fact that someone even has the nerve to say that I am.