Tea Party/ GOP-
 

Meeting today. I have a feeling if the GOP doesn't accept and incorporate
the Tea Party movement there will be a third party.

Whether Dem or Repub, they are in trouble if they don't listen to the people.
I give the Tea Party a lot of credit for getting more people involved in
the governmental process.

There is a lot of incumbant anger and if the GOP can work with the them, it is obviously to their benefit. However, the TP aren't going to walk in step w/them.

The tea party needs to distance itself from the nuts. I agree with what the tea party stands for but you have the Obama = Hitler crowd mixed in and they will diminish any value.

they must eliminate the lunatic fringe, and soon.

That's what I was thinking. It's hard for them to be considered credible with the wingnuts making all that noise.

What would you guys consider a TP wing nuts philosophy would be?

Like Jimmy said, the Obama = Hitler crowd. Along with these people:
http://www.jeffhead.com/912teaparty/...arty-DC-12.jpg
http://newsbusters.org/static/2009/0...ea%20Party.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2602/...fe9665.jpg?v=0

And my favorite:

http://jgogek.files.wordpress.com/20...a-party-42.jpg

Thanks, JD. When I read Justplugit's post, the first image that popped into my mind was one of a woman with a "Teabagging for Jesus" sign at one of the prostests. Of course the far right wing extremists, racists and those advocating violence are a very small number in the grand scheme of things, but they get the most attention. That's what I originally meant by "wingnuts".

That's what I figured. The movement *could* be productive but it is overshadowed by people like the morons in the pictures above. However, those idiots are possibly the only reason the movement gets as much press as it does.

spell check needed:
http://wysinger.homestead.com/tex3.jpg
http://www.mathewingram.com/work/wp-...ads/morans.jpg

not only needs spell check, but maybe slightly rascist :rolleyes:
http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesau...erobertson.jpg

OK, and that car is US made too?
http://wysinger.homestead.com/610xCAIATMKI.jpg

Nut cases dominate the Democrats. Ever watch the Democratic National Convention? Pony tails and floppy hats., and that's the "men".

The fruitloop that Delahunt let go to murder 3 people in Alabama was a big time Obama supporter.

The press and JD and the left would like you to believe the Tea Party is all nut jobs (hence the handy pics that JD put up) but it really is a mistake to assume that.

You only read half of a post before you make a comment, huh?

This isn't like a picture book where you get the whole story by just flipping through the pages and looking at the pretty pictures.

Did you see Tancredo's address at the 600 person strong Tea Party rally the other week? :conf:

The problem the Tea Party will have is that the GOP is going to use them publicly, but not really embrace them as a movement within the party.

Their defacto leader, Sarah Palin is...well, enough said :hihi:

-spence

I read your post and they show your point clearly.....huh

I think the GOP is in trouble with the tea party too. They are demanding conservatives, not the GOP cowards we now have.Watch what happens to McCain.

I don't think they're even demanding conservatives. Some are demanding fiscal conservatism, and others are just kooks. Most are simply rebelling against Government spending which is an issue with both main parties.

I don't see any policy from them though, aside from Palin's "common sense" approach to everything. You know, if you have a problem apply a common sense solution :yak5:

-spence

The same people that overestimated Obama are now underestimating this movement.
People are fed up and though they may not belong to the "Tea Party" they have similar values and motivations when it comes to who they will be voting for or shall I say out.
Give the Dems credit...they sure can eff it up for themselfs when put in charge.

another Dem bites the dust.....so Browns win was not that big a deal, huh?

From what I've seen of the Tea Party gatherings on TV I never saw one
person carrying the signs any thing like JD posted. I'm sure their opposition
went out of their way to snap those.
The majority of what I saw was groups of older Americans demonstrating
peacefully against HC, higher taxes, smaller G and run away spending by both parties over the last few years that would create unpayable debt for their kids and grand-kids for generations. Awakened a lot of people.

Oh yeah and Spence your [QUOTE]:, "if you have a problem, apply a common sense solution.:yak5:. "
What we need really is some theory spun by a bunch of know it all egg head professors with little or no experience that never stepped into the real world, to give us solutions and spend our money.:rolleyes:

:hihi: jpi..all you watch is Beck, Hannity, and O'Really...
on Faux News....
of course they gonna pretty it up for youse...:hihi:
change the channel once in a while, or better yet, get that motorcycle running again!

That's the easy part, doing a wheelie up the cellar steps to
get it on the road is a little tougher at my age. :hihi:

I'll send clammah to show you how it is done..

LOL, i said up the cellar steps, not stuck in the cellar door. :doh: :D

here he comes

http://gorilla.coldfusionvideo.com/w...dreamgirl4.jpg

:hihi:

I'd certainly agree.

They're the right wing version of Ralph Nader - they will be harmless to the opposition, but split the conservative vote and weaken the base.

I don't think they'll be harmless, but they will definitely fracture an already weak GOP.

-spence

Joe and Spence, what planet are you from? Where you asleep for the last few months? Do you listen to any media outside of network news? Are you paying attention to the dems dropping like flies? A republican replacing Ted Kennedy? Spence, the GOP is weak??? You only had valuable input when you were quoting Tom Friedman, juts another one of teh Monday morning quarterbacks criticizing Bush. We'll there are no books now as history is being made daily, you are out of touch. Look around! A democrtatic held sentate and house CANNOT pass any legislation that was Obama's main priority??? Talk about WEAK!

The majority of Americans are conservative, not wing nuts. America woke up post Bush-sucks to find out that Change means - tax and spend. They want the government out of their lives, they want the government to stop spending, they want a president to stop "selling" and start doing! They dont like to be talked down to! Wake up boys - the times they are a changing. Latest CNN poll - majority of Americans WOULD NOT VOTE TO RELECT OBAMA !

I don't think so, Spence. The GOP is stronger now than it has been in a while and continues to get stronger. The special elections in NJ and MA have shown that people are fed up with the same old spend, spend, spend tactics of the Dems. The key for the Republicans is to get more moderate candidates to run. That way, they get the independent votes along with the conservative votes. Although the real extremists are very vocal, most people are smart enough to dismiss them as what they are. Just like the liberal moonbats who came out during the Obama campaign. They got a lot of play on some stations, but it didn't hurt the campaign.

let me get this straight...the current President of the United States has had known close associations with a radical domestic terrorist among others and has a plethera of radicals currently strolling the halls of the White House...and that's not a problem?...but a couple of people show up at a Tea Party rally with questionable signs and the entire movement is discredited...this is just like watching MSNBC:uhuh:

Scott Brown was a big win, and while a big deal, I don't think it is the massive landslide some see it as.
But...
how many republicans are retiring or not running for reelection so far in 2010...
I thought I read somewhere it was about 50/50 on the split.

A gauntlet was thrown with the energy legislation Obama is proposing. If the republicans fight what they pushed for just on political prinicipal (Drill baby drill!) then they are are definitely going to look like the party of no. If they do this, then they are going to loose any momentum the party might have gained from Scott Brown...

for the record, I as a tree-hugging, climate change believing sediment worker, am:
1. Pro Nuke
2. anti offshore drilling
3. Undecided on 'clean' coal...

OK, I'm wrong. The Tea Party will not harm repubs by creating a split among hard right conservatives, but rather it will take votes from the democrats.

This has been mentioned by you a few times in the past couple weeks. You're right that the dems are dropping like flies. However, there are more Republicans at the moment that have declared they will not be running for re-election than there are Dems. Incumbent anger is being felt by both parties.

Also, you (and just about everyone else) have pretty consistently made the Scott Brown vote a "Vote against the Democrats" and I disagree. I think the Scott Brown win included a perfect storm of factors - a weak Dem candidate, a horribly run campaign, Brown's lack of fitting the Washington mold and having that hometown appearance. (and yes, dissent of the Dems but not as the sole reason).

I'm surprised that people are acting like the rise of counter movement in the face of liberal hegemony is something new. That the recent rise of a Tea Party-like organization was not predictable, and that this represents a sea-change in American Politics. Cripes, South Carolina has not even seceded yet.

wrong - it is made up of primarily independent voters, they are the target for all elections. :uhuh:

Johnny - Brown's main FOCUS -

1. I can kill healthcare bill (you remember, Obama's key priority)
2. I am against giving rights to terrorsts (you remember, Obama pushed for trials of 9/11 suspects)
3. Less government (you remember, everything Obama has done in offce)

So in a state that was predominatly for OBAMA, the Brown vote was not a vote against Dems, although he stood opposite EVERYTHING they stood for? :wall:

do some legwork! So Joe, who is this tea party you speak of? Klans men? baptist ministers? white supremicists?
you do know that many of the key orgainziers are housewives and career women? Uh, yeah, they've been an organized voice in american politics. You guys are blind, blind to the facts cuz your watchin that garbage (bonus points to who can name the source of that quote)

Thus the problem with your argument. You assume that everyone votes based on policy and the issues. If the Presidential campaign taught us anything, it's that many people vote on sensationalism and voting against what's currently happening in the state.

People with a lot of time on their hands. No wonder the events are so well organized.:morons: