Tea Party/ GOP-

[justplugit]

Meeting today. I have a feeling if the GOP doesn't accept and incorporate
the Tea Party movement there will be a third party.

Whether Dem or Repub, they are in trouble if they don't listen to the people.
I give the Tea Party a lot of credit for getting more people involved in
the governmental process.

[PaulS]

There is a lot of incumbant anger and if the GOP can work with the them, it is obviously to their benefit. However, the TP aren't going to walk in step w/them.

[RIJIMMY]

The tea party needs to distance itself from the nuts. I agree with what the tea party stands for but you have the Obama = Hitler crowd mixed in and they will diminish any value.

[fishbones]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

The tea party needs to distance itself from the nuts. I agree with what the tea party stands for but you have the Obama = Hitler crowd mixed in and they will diminish any value.

That's what I was thinking. It's hard for them to be considered credible with the wingnuts making all that noise.

[justplugit]

What would you guys consider a TP wing nuts philosophy would be?

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by justplugit

What would you guys consider a TP wing nuts philosophy would be?

Like Jimmy said, the Obama = Hitler crowd. Along with these people:




And my favorite:

[spence]

Originally Posted by fishbones

That's what I was thinking. It's hard for them to be considered credible with the wingnuts making all that noise.

Did you see Tancredo's address at the 600 person strong Tea Party rally the other week?

The problem the Tea Party will have is that the GOP is going to use them publicly, but not really embrace them as a movement within the party.

Their defacto leader, Sarah Palin is...well, enough said

-spence

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Did you see Tancredo's address at the 600 person strong Tea Party rally the other week?

The problem the Tea Party will have is that the GOP is going to use them publicly, but not really embrace them as a movement within the party.

Their defacto leader, Sarah Palin is...well, enough said

-spence

I think the GOP is in trouble with the tea party too. They are demanding conservatives, not the GOP cowards we now have.Watch what happens to McCain.

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

I think the GOP is in trouble with the tea party too. They are demanding conservatives, not the GOP cowards we now have.Watch what happens to McCain.

I don't think they're even demanding conservatives. Some are demanding fiscal conservatism, and others are just kooks. Most are simply rebelling against Government spending which is an issue with both main parties.

I don't see any policy from them though, aside from Palin's "common sense" approach to everything. You know, if you have a problem apply a common sense solution

-spence

[EarnedStripes44]

Originally Posted by fishbones

That's what I was thinking. It's hard for them to be considered credible with the wingnuts making all that noise.

I'd certainly agree.

[Karl F]

they must eliminate the lunatic fringe, and soon.

[fishbones]

Thanks, JD. When I read Justplugit's post, the first image that popped into my mind was one of a woman with a "Teabagging for Jesus" sign at one of the prostests. Of course the far right wing extremists, racists and those advocating violence are a very small number in the grand scheme of things, but they get the most attention. That's what I originally meant by "wingnuts".

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by fishbones

Thanks, JD. When I read Justplugit's post, the first image that popped into my mind was one of a woman with a "Teabagging for Jesus" sign at one of the prostests. Of course the far right wing extremists, racists and those advocating violence are a very small number in the grand scheme of things, but they get the most attention. That's what I originally meant by "wingnuts".

That's what I figured. The movement *could* be productive but it is overshadowed by people like the morons in the pictures above. However, those idiots are possibly the only reason the movement gets as much press as it does.

[Karl F]

spell check needed:
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not only needs spell check, but maybe slightly rascist
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OK, and that car is US made too?
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[buckman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

That's what I figured. The movement *could* be productive but it is overshadowed by people like the morons in the pictures above. However, those idiots are possibly the only reason the movement gets as much press as it does.

Nut cases dominate the Democrats. Ever watch the Democratic National Convention? Pony tails and floppy hats., and that's the "men".

The fruitloop that Delahunt let go to murder 3 people in Alabama was a big time Obama supporter.

The press and JD and the left would like you to believe the Tea Party is all nut jobs (hence the handy pics that JD put up) but it really is a mistake to assume that.

[JohnnyD]

Originally Posted by buckman

Nut cases dominate the Democrats. Ever watch the Democratic National Convention? Pony tails and floppy hats., and that's the "men".

The fruitloop that Delahunt let go to murder 3 people in Alabama was a big time Obama supporter.

The press and JD and the left would like you to believe the Tea Party is all nut jobs (hence the handy pics that JD put up) but it really is a mistake to assume that.

You only read half of a post before you make a comment, huh?

This isn't like a picture book where you get the whole story by just flipping through the pages and looking at the pretty pictures.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by JohnnyD

You only read half of a post before you make a comment, huh?

This isn't like a picture book where you get the whole story by just flipping through the pages and looking at the pretty pictures.

I read your post and they show your point clearly.....huh

[buckman]

The same people that overestimated Obama are now underestimating this movement.
People are fed up and though they may not belong to the "Tea Party" they have similar values and motivations when it comes to who they will be voting for or shall I say out.
Give the Dems credit...they sure can eff it up for themselfs when put in charge.

[justplugit]

From what I've seen of the Tea Party gatherings on TV I never saw one
person carrying the signs any thing like JD posted. I'm sure their opposition
went out of their way to snap those.
The majority of what I saw was groups of older Americans demonstrating
peacefully against HC, higher taxes, smaller G and run away spending by both parties over the last few years that would create unpayable debt for their kids and grand-kids for generations. Awakened a lot of people.

Oh yeah and Spence your [QUOTE]:, "if you have a problem, apply a common sense solution.. "
What we need really is some theory spun by a bunch of know it all egg head professors with little or no experience that never stepped into the real world, to give us solutions and spend our money.

[RIJIMMY]

another Dem bites the dust.....so Browns win was not that big a deal, huh?

[Karl F]

jpi..all you watch is Beck, Hannity, and O'Really...
on Faux News....
of course they gonna pretty it up for youse...
change the channel once in a while, or better yet, get that motorcycle running again!

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Karl F

jpi.. or better yet, get that motorcycle running again!

That's the easy part, doing a wheelie up the cellar steps to
get it on the road is a little tougher at my age.

[Karl F]

Originally Posted by justplugit

That's the easy part, doing a wheelie up the cellar steps to
get it on the road is a little tougher at my age.

I'll send clammah to show you how it is done..

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Karl F

I'll send clammah to show you how it is done..

LOL, i said up the cellar steps, not stuck in the cellar door.

[Karl F]

here he comes

[justplugit]

[Joe]

They're the right wing version of Ralph Nader - they will be harmless to the opposition, but split the conservative vote and weaken the base.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Joe

They're the right wing version of Ralph Nader - they will be harmless to the opposition, but split the conservative vote and weaken the base.

I don't think they'll be harmless, but they will definitely fracture an already weak GOP.

-spence

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't think they'll be harmless, but they will definitely fracture an already weak GOP.

-spence

Joe and Spence, what planet are you from? Where you asleep for the last few months? Do you listen to any media outside of network news? Are you paying attention to the dems dropping like flies? A republican replacing Ted Kennedy? Spence, the GOP is weak??? You only had valuable input when you were quoting Tom Friedman, juts another one of teh Monday morning quarterbacks criticizing Bush. We'll there are no books now as history is being made daily, you are out of touch. Look around! A democrtatic held sentate and house CANNOT pass any legislation that was Obama's main priority??? Talk about WEAK!

The majority of Americans are conservative, not wing nuts. America woke up post Bush-sucks to find out that Change means - tax and spend. They want the government out of their lives, they want the government to stop spending, they want a president to stop "selling" and start doing! They dont like to be talked down to! Wake up boys - the times they are a changing. Latest CNN poll - majority of Americans WOULD NOT VOTE TO RELECT OBAMA !

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Joe and Spence, what planet are you from? Where you asleep for the last few months? Do you listen to any media outside of network news? Are you paying attention to the dems dropping like flies?

Scott Brown was a big win, and while a big deal, I don't think it is the massive landslide some see it as.
But...
how many republicans are retiring or not running for reelection so far in 2010...
I thought I read somewhere it was about 50/50 on the split.

A gauntlet was thrown with the energy legislation Obama is proposing. If the republicans fight what they pushed for just on political prinicipal (Drill baby drill!) then they are are definitely going to look like the party of no. If they do this, then they are going to loose any momentum the party might have gained from Scott Brown...

for the record, I as a tree-hugging, climate change believing sediment worker, am:
1. Pro Nuke
2. anti offshore drilling
3. Undecided on 'clean' coal...