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CowHunter 10-13-2011 06:04 PM

Anybody seen this???
 
Stonington - State Environmental Conservation Police Officers have arrested two men Tuesday in Stonington on violations of marine fisheries laws, the state Department of Energy and Environmental Protection announced today.
Arrested were David J. Hochman, 45, of Orange, and John J. Warnock, 65, of Pawtucket, R.I. They were found in possession of 12 striped bass, which is eight fish (four per man) over the daily limit of two per person.
The officers, acting on a complaint, arrested the two men as they were attempting to offload the fish to a vehicle on Boulder Avenue. They had begun their fishing trip at the state-owned Barn Island Boat Launch, also in Stonington. They are scheduled to appear in New London Superior Court on Oct. 19.

Also has anybody seen the October RISSA newsletter? If u look under the RI dem arrests looks like they have been quite busy! I couldn't help but notice that there was a Rob Taylor arrested back in August for being well over his limit of SB? I recognize the name but is this the same Rob Taylor that used to fish the striper cup on team Striper?

tlapinski 10-13-2011 06:10 PM

Hochman is the S-B WR holder for spearfishing. Neeldess to say, the spearos aren't too happy right now about the negative press he is giving them. :smash:

Clammer 10-13-2011 06:29 PM

RISSA
RT // AGE & LOCATION ARE ABOUT RIGHT :devil2:

inTHERAPY 10-13-2011 07:43 PM

season to taste and simmer for.......

chefchris401 10-14-2011 08:23 AM

http://www.risaa.org/newsletter/1011/1011_10.pdf
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PRBuzz 10-14-2011 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by chefchris401 (Post 892694)
http://www.risaa.org/newsletter/1011/1011_10.pdf
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25 no saltwater license citations!

Swimmer 10-14-2011 08:55 AM

Good for them. I wonder how many thier counterparts in Mass. have issued. I see nothing EPO's

fishbones 10-14-2011 09:11 AM

From the names on that list of arrests, it looks like the RI DEM has been profiling.:devil2:

chefchris401 10-14-2011 09:26 AM

theres more than a few spots that i park at were the scuppers are taking everything in site, 5 gallon white buckets filled with scup the size of your hand.

ive called DEM a few times, these people have no respect for the sport or the areas they fish, trash everywhere, line, cigarette butts, etc.

these are the people who are going to cause us to lose access to great fishing spots. nevermind the damage theyre doing to the future of the sport.

PRBuzz 10-14-2011 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by fishbones (Post 892705)
From the names on that list of arrests, it looks like the RI DEM has been profiling.:devil2:

Picking on the Brockton people?
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bart 10-14-2011 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chefchris401 (Post 892710)
theres more than a few spots that i park at were the scuppers are taking everything in site, 5 gallon white buckets filled with scup the size of your hand.

ive called DEM a few times, these people have no respect for the sport

Neither do the heavy hitters who poach bass...

JFigliuolo 10-14-2011 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by bart (Post 892717)
Neither do the heavy hitters who poach bass...

Word.... respect level drops to zero.

fishbones 10-14-2011 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PRBuzz (Post 892716)
Picking on the Brockton people?
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Are you saying that there are a lot of people from Brockton who may not understand the laws because they don't speak English so well?

That reminds me. I need to call your friend Arthur back today.

FishermanTim 10-14-2011 11:40 AM

Is there any connection between the no-salt license citations and the beach/park/mgmt area citations?
Seems that they would go hand in hand, or at least influence each others' resulting citations, since most bucket-brigaders are known to drink and litter based on the complaints we hear on this site.

Rob Rockcrawler 10-14-2011 03:28 PM

I hope it isnt the Rob Taylor from the striper cup. Its a pretty common name. I cant see anyone keeping over their limit of striper unless you are going hungry or profiting on them. Those are the two rationale i can see, not condoning by any means. I hope all that are caught receive more than a rosy welt mark on their wrists.

CowHunter 10-14-2011 03:34 PM

I know there are quite a few guys that fished with Rob Taylor on this board, curious to know if he falls under the new poaching laws in RI??? I believe the law was passed in July and he got arrested in August. From what I hear it was a substantial amount of bass, enough to make Big Al Blush!!!! I wonder why it was kept so quiet? I mean this was OTW's golden boy, sponsered by Quantum Reels. Will OTW step up and and strip him of any awards??? We are not talking Buckets of Scup here... I think first offense fine is in the thousands and possible jail time??????

Rob Rockcrawler 10-14-2011 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CowHunter (Post 892791)
I think first offense fine is in the thousands and possible jail time??????

Sounds good to me. Not sure if that applies to all or only the people that don't have lawyers. This sounds like a perfect place for mandatory minimums.

WoodyCT 10-14-2011 03:40 PM

Let's not plan the blanket party until we find out it's THAT Rob Taylor.
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CowHunter 10-14-2011 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by WoodyCT (Post 892794)
Let's not plan the blanket party until we find out it's THAT Rob Taylor.
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I assure you it is, lets not be nieve or ignorant here.....I believe Seadangles would of jumped on me within minutes of posting if it wasnt true, I hope that I am wrong, but my sources havent been wrong yet. I was shocked when I heard the news back in august and wouldnt of dared to post it until it was in black and white.. Besides, the average Bucket Brigade guy couldnt possibly catch what RT caught and come up with the genius scheme. This guy had Skillz! I mean the poundage, Undercutting dealers, any truth, were talking big $$$ not rock bottom prices... RISSA should fight to get "Their Law" enforced, yes? They fought hard to pass it... Did they backdate slips like they did with Burback, Big Alor was he special? The buds on here are quiet, not crying foul like with Big Al, burback, and team Striper member Sean... Maybe since they are cutting this guy so much slack they drop the charges on the others???

Jackbass 10-14-2011 04:25 PM

I read that as well. I do not know him personally nor do I know what happened regardless the legislation passed for a reason and I can not imagine a situation where there would be a grace period.

Whomever he is I sincerely hope he is punished to the fullest extent of the law. The dem botched the case on the dirtbag with the hydraulic table on his boat I hope they have learned to dot their I's and cross their T's
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Slipknot 10-14-2011 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by CowHunter (Post 892800)
I assure you it is!!!!!!!!!!! I believe Seadangles would of jumped on me within minutes of posting if it wasnt true, I hope that I am wrong, but my sources havent been wrong yet. I was shocked when I heard the news back in august and wouldnt of dared to post it until it was in black and white.. Besides, the average Bucket Brigade guy couldnt possibly catch what RT caught and come up with the genius scheme. This guy had Skillz! I mean the poundage, Undercutting dealers, any truth, were talking big $$$ not rock bottom prices... RISSA should fight to get "Their Law" enforced, yes? They fought hard to pass it... Did they backdate slips like they did with Burback, Big Alor was he special? The buds on here are quiet, not crying foul like with Big Al, burback, and team Striper member Sean... Maybe since they are cutting this guy so much slack they drop the charges on the others???


that's a lot of smack
I don't get half of the gossip you are speaking of but I guess that's the direction the site is going in these days ? :huh:
:hs:

I wonder why your sources bring this stuff up to you:devil2:

what does this accomplish

BatesBCheatin 10-14-2011 07:53 PM

That is indeed 'the' Rob Taylor.

I wasn't there so I don't know the full story, but this is how it was explained to me:

According to RT himself he was bagged at the dock with four fish. He claims that he dropped off his bud earlier, but still had the fish when he was checked. That is all I know and won't pass judgement just yet. Now, If RT was actually caught with a whole mess of fish as implied above - well then that changes things.

How do I know this? I asked him.

CowHunter 10-14-2011 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slipknot (Post 892828)
that's a lot of smack
I don't get half of the gossip you are speaking of but I guess that's the direction the site is going in these days ? :huh:
:hs:

I wonder why your sources bring this stuff up to you:devil2:

what does this accomplish

Slip, its a small world, the guy got busted poaching, plain and simple, I assure u it was more than four fish... Yes, unfortunately I get alot of Gossip, I know alot of people up and down the coast. I got alot of heat with the meyerson thing but if people knew what I know they wouldnt be defending him... Anyway, back on topic, why everybody protecting this surf god? Where those fish caught off the surf to begin with in the OTW Striper Cup inquiring minds want to know... Guys were questioning that back then, sometimes putting the pieces of a puzzle arent that hard....4, 8, 10, 18 bass was it? End of season? back date slips sold in mass and man, we are at a level well above big all and his secret compartments, this guy actually made big $$$

CowHunter 10-14-2011 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BatesBCheatin (Post 892854)
That is indeed 'the' Rob Taylor.

I wasn't there so I don't know the full story, but this is how it was explained to me:

According to RT himself he was bagged at the dock with four fish. He claims that he dropped off his bud earlier, but still had the fish when he was checked. That is all I know and won't pass judgement just yet. Now, If RT was actually caught with a whole mess of fish as implied above - well then that changes things.

How do I know this? I asked him.


Even if it was just four fish, which it wasnt, guys cried on this forum about billy Major for being over limit prior to midnight on a comm night, band from all tourneys, think that was 2 fish... Why is nobody crying about a pro poacher? Braggining to tackle shops about how he was catchin 6-700 lbs a day in chatham when it was in newport???? date the slips, go by the new anti poaching law, or do they protect their own??????

jon2465 10-14-2011 08:24 PM

u guys can keep 4 per man?

CowHunter 10-14-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jon2465 (Post 892868)
u guys can keep 4 per man?

Think it was 18 per man more or less if you are OTW surf angler of the year sponsored by Quantum....

WESTPORTMAFIA 10-14-2011 09:45 PM

I love this thread. Keep slinging the mud! I'll be checking in often. Very interesting stuff.
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fishbones 10-14-2011 10:20 PM

The Rob Taylor who was cited by the DEM paid a fine of $193.50. He actually paid $360 more when he was arrested for not controlling his vicious dogs.

WESTPORTMAFIA 10-14-2011 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fishbones (Post 892876)
The Rob Taylor who was cited by the DEM paid a fine of $193.50. He actually paid $360 more when he was arrested for not controlling his vicious dogs.

Who let the dogs out? Who? Who?
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fishbones 10-14-2011 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WESTPORTMAFIA (Post 892878)
Who let the dogs out? Who? Who?
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That's what happens when you sneek beers into Lion Kings 3D.
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Sea Dangles 10-15-2011 06:44 AM

Rob Taylor hasn't fished the Striper Cup for years.
I heard he was caught with hand in the jar.
He used to work for Quantum....Sponsor? Ken is dumb.
Believes everything he hears.
I hope I am there if he ever gets the courage to confront Myerson in person.
Which he won't,trust me.
Loudmouth Jersey beyotch.
Snooki with a badge.

JohnR 10-15-2011 07:20 AM

And let DEM punish / fine him as needed. Maybe a little extra exposure of high profile people will make a few others to stop poaching.

Ken, you are like a soap opera with this stuff. Every controversy and rumor, you are at the forefront. Dude - take your foot off the gas.

CowHunter 10-15-2011 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 892897)
Rob Taylor hasn't fished the Striper Cup for years.
I heard he was caught with hand in the jar.
He used to work for Quantum....Sponsor? Ken is dumb.
Believes everything he hears.
I hope I am there if he ever gets the courage to confront Myerson in person.
Which he won't,trust me.
Loudmouth Jersey beyotch.
Snooki with a badge.

Is that what its called? "Caught with hand in the jar?" thanks for clearing it up, that explains everything, guess there is no truth to what I posted, I have to apologize for being dumb and with lack of courage, because I dont know what that is... Where is Al Stromski???? Got Pillz????

CowHunter 10-15-2011 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 892903)
And let DEM punish / fine him as needed. Maybe a little extra exposure of high profile people will make a few others to stop poaching.

Ken, you are like a soap opera with this stuff. Every controversy and rumor, you are at the forefront. Dude - take your foot off the gas.

Yes, but is this rumor or controversy John??? It is in the RISSA Newsletter that I recieved the other day...... And John, I have been quiet for a while there!

Sea Dangles 10-15-2011 07:26 AM

No apology necesaary Ken.
It's not your fault.
Merely genetics...
Whiny beyotch

Slipknot 10-15-2011 07:47 AM

stay classy sea dangles

:rollem:

JohnR 10-15-2011 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CowHunter (Post 892907)
Yes, but is this rumor or controversy John??? It is in the RISSA Newsletter that I recieved the other day...... And John, I have been quiet for a while there!

THIS time was merely controversy Ken, Myerson was controversy and rumor.

toaster816 10-15-2011 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CowHunter (Post 892625)
I couldn't help but notice that there was a Rob Taylor arrested back in August for being well over his limit of SB? I recognize the name but is this the same Rob Taylor that used to fish the striper cup on team Striper?

Quote:

Originally Posted by CowHunter (Post 892791)
I know there are quite a few guys that fished with Rob Taylor on this board, curious to know if he falls under the new poaching laws in RI??? I believe the law was passed in July and he got arrested in August. From what I hear it was a substantial amount of bass, enough to make Big Al Blush!!!! I wonder why it was kept so quiet? I mean this was OTW's golden boy, sponsered by Quantum Reels. Will OTW step up and and strip him of any awards??? We are not talking Buckets of Scup here... I think first offense fine is in the thousands and possible jail time??????

Quote:

Originally Posted by CowHunter (Post 892800)
I assure you it is, lets not be nieve or ignorant here.....I believe Seadangles would of jumped on me within minutes of posting if it wasnt true, I hope that I am wrong, but my sources havent been wrong yet. I was shocked when I heard the news back in august and wouldnt of dared to post it until it was in black and white.. Besides, the average Bucket Brigade guy couldnt possibly catch what RT caught and come up with the genius scheme. This guy had Skillz! I mean the poundage, Undercutting dealers, any truth, were talking big $$$ not rock bottom prices... RISSA should fight to get "Their Law" enforced, yes? They fought hard to pass it... Did they backdate slips like they did with Burback, Big Alor was he special? The buds on here are quiet, not crying foul like with Big Al, burback, and team Striper member Sean... Maybe since they are cutting this guy so much slack they drop the charges on the others???

Quote:

Originally Posted by CowHunter (Post 892864)
Slip, its a small world, the guy got busted poaching, plain and simple, I assure u it was more than four fish... Yes, unfortunately I get alot of Gossip, I know alot of people up and down the coast. I got alot of heat with the meyerson thing but if people knew what I know they wouldnt be defending him... Anyway, back on topic, why everybody protecting this surf god? Where those fish caught off the surf to begin with in the OTW Striper Cup inquiring minds want to know... Guys were questioning that back then, sometimes putting the pieces of a puzzle arent that hard....4, 8, 10, 18 bass was it? End of season? back date slips sold in mass and man, we are at a level well above big all and his secret compartments, this guy actually made big $$$

Quote:

Originally Posted by CowHunter (Post 892865)
Even if it was just four fish, which it wasnt, guys cried on this forum about billy Major for being over limit prior to midnight on a comm night, band from all tourneys, think that was 2 fish... Why is nobody crying about a pro poacher? Braggining to tackle shops about how he was catchin 6-700 lbs a day in chatham when it was in newport???? date the slips, go by the new anti poaching law, or do they protect their own??????

Quote:

Originally Posted by CowHunter (Post 892871)
Think it was 18 per man more or less if you are OTW surf angler of the year sponsored by Quantum....

Cowhunter clearly has an agenda and reeks of jealously. Yes, poachers should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, but my god you are like a little girl in high school. And no I do not know Robbie nor am I friends with him. Stick to filling your boat and taking pictures.

JohnR 10-15-2011 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toaster816 (Post 892928)
Cowhunter clearly has an agenda and reeks of jealously. Yes, poachers should be punished to the fullest extent of the law, but my god you are like a little girl in high school. And no I do not know Robbie nor am I friends with him. Stick to filling your boat and taking pictures.

Well, well organized and documented thought for a Hyde Park guy (I'm more or less from East Dedham :rotf2: - by DNA I'm supposed to hate you )

bassballer 10-15-2011 08:30 AM

Unreal.., "Pro Poacher", "Vicious Dogs", "Genius Scheme" Nothing else to do on a friday night boys, but to schmere someones name on the internet. If you have something to say im sure he would welcome the call, or a home visit. Or at least get your facts straight, or at least know what your talking about.


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