Jeff, you telling me to enjoy my bed is just plain creepy. You are a sick #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&. FYI, my uber driver in Miami was Haitian,great guy but I really couldn't understand him. He was a happy sort nonetheless.
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Isn’t it true in Califoria they are fighting for the rights of people with AIDS to donate blood because they are being “discriminated”
Red Cross must be a bunch a racist !
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Trump never said or implied that Haitian people were of poor character. He was being critical of the government. The people who run that country deserve to be lined up against a wall. Apunten...fuego!

It's called liberalism. A tragic affliction that I wouldn't wish on anyone.

When it's safer to let patients risk bleeding to death, than it is to give them my blood if I visited Haiti, that means it's a sh*thole.

Yeah, that's not intentionally watered-down or anything. Spence, if Obama said Haiti was the nicest place on Earth, would you reflexively sell your house and move there? Is party politics literally all that matters to you? You can't just say "Haiti is a horrible Godforsaken place", just because Trump said the same thing? He can't be correct if he said Haiti s*cks? You can't give him that? You're that close-minded?

Say what you want,the country shares the same soil and water as a vacation destination. One small difference is Haiti remains a crap hole and the other half is civilized enough to understand tourism. Don't blame the people,blame the government.
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your very clear on you stance .. and how you feel about immigrants.. the only mental illness is your reasoning when it comes to immigration and how it works...

Even with all these immigrants from these #^&#^&#^&#^& hole country's and all the bad they bring (according to republicans) unemployment is at an all time low the markets up ... and republicans still want to blame immigration and keep the Base happy ( they are all still here and the sky hasn't fallen)

One thing that I sincerely admire about liberals, is that they want those at the bottom to get ahead. Liberals like to bemoan that those at the bottom, don't see rising wages. Part of the reason why, is that between legel/illegal immigration, we have millions of penniless, unskilled workers, willing to work for next to nothing.

WDMSO, when you increase the supply of something, do you know what happens to the value of that something? It decreases. It is beyond dispute, that immigration has limited the ability of poor Americans to earn more.

That is a fact. And it's worth considering, when detailing immigration policy. We can't act like there's no downside.

Hahahahahaha...#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&. Classy there.
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Ummmm...no.
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This is up there with the most absurd things ever said in this forum.
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https://www.npr.org/2018/01/13/57780...storical-prece

Interesting read

Immigration arguments like yours is like saying don't pee in the ocean it will turn it yellow ...
Immigration has no effect on poor American to earn more . But keep thinking that's why poor Americans are poor .... because of immigrants .. you nailed it

This would be a good time to hear again how minorities vote overwhelmingly for Democrats because of welfare and not because of what Republican say and think about them.
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Funny - the bride and I lived in Germany for three years and we are not allowed to give blood either.

Lots of places have sh1tholes, some totally are sh!tholes, still not proper for the Pres to declare it the way he did. And minor surprise for people jumping on his sheit about it.. Don't let a good opportunity go to waste.

Simply there are good and bad people in all places, good or sheithole.

Still not proper for the Pres to declare it the way he did
:btu: that's all ways been the issue . Another example he creates his own issues with the press like this guy

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-eur...he-netherlands

No it’s not proper.
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A rose by any other name is still a rose
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Once again, a liberal responds to something I never even came close to saying. I didn’t say immigration causes poverty. But it doesn’t help. Maybe if you worked in the private sector for three seconds, or if you ever bothered to learn about economics, you’d understand. If you have a poor American making 10/hr, and you have a lot of immigrants willing to work for less, it makes it harder for him to get more. Not everyone is in a union where you get raises automatically, most of us have to command raises. It’s harder to do that with unskilled immigrants.

No sane person denies that. You deny it because you don’t happen to like it. Supply and demand exists whether your Bolshevik view likes it or not. I don’t like it either. But I know it exists.
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I'm not sure how saying this in a closed meeting with a handful of Senators is the same as "declaring" something to the world. I am sure every president we have ever had has said something similar to this, but it never made the news, but, since Trump has a CNN news crew living in his colon, every single time he passes gas, it makes the news.

I guess Howie Carr must be part of fake news.
It was a topic on his radio show a few weeks back.
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OK, comrade, tell me what's wrong with this logic.

There are Americans with very low skills.

Most of them make low wages.

We would like them to be able to command higher wages.

When we bring in millions of unskilled immigrants, that's more competition, for the same number of low-skill jobs. When you increase supply of something without a proportional increase in demand for that something, the price for that something (in this case, the wages of low-skill workers) will decrease.

Furthermore, the illegals among the unskilled laborers, are willing to work for less than minimum wage. This drives down the market value of unskilled labor. Which , obviously, makes it harder for unskilled workers to command a higher wage in the free market. If there were fewer unskilled workers, those that remain, could demand a higher wage. Because of decreased supply.

Supply and demand, Spence...supply and demand. You never read page one of a college economics or finance text?



Instead of just saying "that's absurd", enlighten me. Educate me. Tell me where my logic is flawed.

Foot, meet shoe.
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Be careful, you're making sense and some lefty is going to pop up and call you an arrogant racist... LOL

He’s not arrogant.
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You are saying that when there is an influx of a cheap supply of something (in this case, unskilled labor), that doesn't suppress the price of that something.

If you made $10 /hour cleaning toilets, and you went to your boss asking for a raise. And your boss knows there are immigrants willing to clean his toilets for less. Does that not reduce your chances of getting a raise?

That's when I know that I've won the debate.

You're right, but I'm WAY more arrogant than I am racist...

What did George Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney say that was mean about minorities? They said derogatory things about minorities, and that's why they didn't do well with minorities? That's an interesting take on history.