Originally Posted by detbuch
You're not stupid, but you're not being reasonable. The "top" has been around since the beginning of this illegal immigration problem, way before Trump. And the top, which is not just the President, has been botching it all along. Much of that failure has not been merely ineptitude, but intentional. Much of it has been political rhetoric which many have "listened" to a la in the title of your thread--including the immigrants who saw legislation and heard words that encouraged, not dissuaded, them to keep coming.
To blame this shooting on the use of a word that honestly described the situation is beyond being merely myopic. It is political disingenuousness--a minor factoid stretched into a big lie.
Not to recognize the real problem with illegal immigration, not to recognize that there has been a concerted effort to avoid a solution to it, and then to jump to the conclusion that Trump's word caused the shooting, is made-up stuff rather than rational thinking. When honest use of language re immigration becomes the supposed cause for a mass shooting, then we have gone too far down the rabbit hole of political opposition to have a rational discussion.
It is obvious that there is political opposition to solving the immigration problem, other than actually continuing the flow. And there is finally one guy who is actually trying to stop it. And it is obvious that this guy is a threat to the greater agenda of his opposition. And it is obvious that Trump is, therefor, being characterized as the most evil being possible, falsely smearing him as a racist, homophobe, misogynist, xenophobe, Nazi, Fascist, conspirer with the enemy, hater, inspirer of killers, whatever label can be concocted in order to destroy him.
So someone was listening alright, a lot of folks were, millions of them. Millions came here illegally because of what they heard. And millions are hearing about Trump being the devil incarnate. They are hearing that his words which accurately describe situations are actually dog whistles, code, triggers to violence. That his words, not the ineptitude, the lying, the deceit of our political class--that his words like "invasion" and "infested" are the problem--that such words, rightly used, are the cause of violence.
And your characterization that the White Supremacy movement has embraced Trump is a false connection to him. He has condemned them. But that connection is one of the concocted labels used to destroy him. As in his Charlottesville quote in which he said that there were good people on both sides. His opposition falsely, intentionally, twisted it into him saying that the white nationalists were good people. Trump specifically said that he was not referring to them, that very day. But they kept repeating the lie, and they still are, and people, perhaps like you, are listening to that lie And believing it.
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