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					Originally Posted by kingr
					
				 
				Any advise for a person who wants to start tying his own but never has.Like is there a basic starter kit I should  buy complete with decent vise 
			
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 Attend tying meetings at UFT. With the beginners programs you don't even need to have your own tools or materials. It's a good place to start -wish they were around when I was young.
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www.uftri.com