Snagging poggies true or false?

[ilovetwofish]

Talking to someone yesterday he told me as of October 14 here in R.I. you could not snag poggeis.Can anyone confirm this?

[Adam_777]

Was he drinking heavily or just didn't want you to take anymore ?Have to check RI laws on snagging bait........

[ilovetwofish]

He could have been!
No this is a guy I know. A friend of his was in Pawtucket and supposedly a D.E.M. officer told him.
I could go to 5 different spots from the shore and snag poggies anyway and he knows that so I don't think that's the reason besides I only fish with poggies about 3 times a year.

Originally Posted by Adam_777

Was he drinking heavily or just didn't want you to take anymore ?Have to check RI laws on snagging bait........

[ivanputski]

i have often wondered what the borderline was in Rhode Island where people stop calling them bunker, and start calling them pogies... my observation is that north of warwick, its pogies, and south its bunker... i cant get used to calling them pogies... being from CT and weekapaug in the summer, Ive always known them as BUNKER. oh well... stupid observation.

[smac]

Call DEM yourself. Sounds like pure crap to me.

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by ivanputski

i have often wondered what the borderline was in Rhode Island where people stop calling them bunker, and start calling them pogies... my observation is that north of warwick, its pogies, and south its bunker... i cant get used to calling them pogies... being from CT and weekapaug in the summer, Ive always known them as BUNKER. oh well... stupid observation.

When I was a kid, most guys in RI called them menhaden. They also called a fluke a "flounder" and a flounder a "flatfish". Chubs (killies to New Yorkers) were mummichogs or choggies, as opposed to what we call a choggie on the Cape (a cunner).

Having lived in RI, NY and Mass, I sometimes use all the names. I still call a weakfish that, instead of a squeteague. But a tautog is a tautog, not a blackfish.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Mike P

But a tautog is a tautog, not a blackfish.

Wrong wrong wrong

Blackfish seems to be Newport-centric in RI; rest of the state calls it Tautog;

The guys east of Newport; i.e. fall riv call them Te-tog

As far as snagging; maybe the DEM guy thought they were shad or herring?

[Roger]

Originally Posted by ilovetwofish

Talking to someone yesterday he told me as of October 14 here in R.I. you could not snag poggeis.Can anyone confirm this?

Somewhere along the line, someone probably confused pogy with porgy. Scup season closed September 26, unless you pay someone to fish from their boat - then it closed October 16.

[RIJIMMY]

In CT it was bunker, blackfish, porgies (scup) and chubs.

[Mike P]

Another RI-ism--river herring = "buckie".

The one I never figured out was "green bonito"

Was it a true bonito or an albie--they're both green.

[Roger]

Originally Posted by Mike P

The one I never figured out was "green bonito"

Was it a true bonito or an albie--they're both green.

It's what you would call a true bonito, which is different from an oceanic bonito - which you might call skipjack tuna.

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by Roger

It's what you would call a true bonito, which is different from an oceanic bonito - which you might call skipjack tuna.

Reminds me of another local colloquialism from my youth--small blues--snappers--used to be called "skipjacks" in RI.

[Crafty Angler]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Wrong wrong wrong

Blackfish seems to be Newport-centric in RI; rest of the state calls it Tautog;

The guys east of Newport; i.e. fall riv call them Te-tog

As far as snagging; maybe the DEM guy thought they were shad or herring?

True enough, Bry - to me they were, are and always will be blackfish.

Using the tautog nomenclature was the first and surest way to identify someone as Not From These Parts.

The pronunciation of 'tautog' was another way to identify them by regional dialect. People from Fall River would often call them 'TIT-tog' (with accent on the first syllable) - I had a protracted discussion with Professor O'Nitis on the entomology of species names one night in a saloon - he told me that someone had written something in regards to blackfish and spelled it as it sounded - which was T-I-T-T-O-G

The abbreviated " 'Tog" was indigenous to people from the Mid-Atlantic region we determined.

Ya know, come to think of it, we were fairly well along at that point, if memory serves....

[ilovetwofish]

This is all f-----------ing wonderful the question was weayher or not it was true or false if we could still ( SNAG POGIES OR BUN KER OR MENHADEN) HOLY F---------------ING SH-------------T.

[Crafty Angler]

Sorry, ILTF...my apologies.

The answer is yes, you can still snag pogies to your heart's content.

However, the fishery for menhaden and bunker is now closed.

Anyway, did you know that the name 'pogie' is derived from the Narragansett name poghaden, which actually means 'fertilizer' in their tongue.

It was Narragansett custom to bury a pogie or other similar baitfish at the base of corn plants to nourish and enrich the soil and thus ensure a bountiful harvest in the fall.

And the best fertilizer, as we all know, is pure and unadulterated...well, nevermind

[Adam_777]

Due to serious spot burning a fence company has been contracted to put up a fence in a local spot.Was a quiet almost sure to get skunked regularly spot then enter the bunker.1 guy pulled a 30# fish out weighed it in @ the local gossip I mean tackle shop and now the fence and gates are being constructed.I was told by the fence company they are putting up a fence to keep fisherman out.The property in question has been without a fence since the beginning of time but is private property.So kiss some more access goodbye.I'm disgusted today.I saw another gate constructed at another fishing spot today in RI.Whats going on here ? Moral of my story is if your snagging in the town we live in you may have to go elsewhere.Fishing is on it's way to being banned.

[ilovetwofish]

If thats were I think it is i'm not surprised. You got people drinking all night and screwing around with the property.They leave there crap all over the place.
To bad I grew up in this town for a matter of a fact I was born and raised here and my rights are going out the window because of these skumbags.

Originally Posted by Adam_777

Due to serious spot burning a fence company has been contracted to put up a fence in a local spot.Was a quiet almost sure to get skunked regularly spot then enter the bunker.1 guy pulled a 30# fish out weighed it in @ the local gossip I mean tackle shop and now the fence and gates are being constructed.I was told by the fence company they are putting up a fence to keep fisherman out.The property in question has been without a fence since the beginning of time but is private property.So kiss some more access goodbye.I'm disgusted today.I saw another gate constructed at another fishing spot today in RI.Whats going on here ? Moral of my story is if your snagging in the town we live in you may have to go elsewhere.Fishing is on it's way to being banned.

[Adam_777]

I been fishing there a few years.Not a townie, but it's close and I fish it.Too bad the place is getting fenced in.Another classic case of fisherman screwing it up for other fisherman.I fish alone and bring out whatever comes in with me.Wish the rest of the trash that showed up there did the same.

[NIB]

Originally Posted by ilovetwofish

This is all f-----------ing wonderful the question was weayher or not it was true or false if we could still ( SNAG POGIES OR BUN KER OR MENHADEN) HOLY F---------------ING SH-------------T.

Now this is funny...