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Old 10-20-2008, 08:15 AM   #1
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i have often wondered what the borderline was in Rhode Island where people stop calling them bunker, and start calling them pogies... my observation is that north of warwick, its pogies, and south its bunker... i cant get used to calling them pogies... being from CT and weekapaug in the summer, Ive always known them as BUNKER. oh well... stupid observation.
When I was a kid, most guys in RI called them menhaden. They also called a fluke a "flounder" and a flounder a "flatfish". Chubs (killies to New Yorkers) were mummichogs or choggies, as opposed to what we call a choggie on the Cape (a cunner).

Having lived in RI, NY and Mass, I sometimes use all the names. I still call a weakfish that, instead of a squeteague. But a tautog is a tautog, not a blackfish.

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Old 10-20-2008, 08:17 AM   #2
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But a tautog is a tautog, not a blackfish.
Wrong wrong wrong

Blackfish seems to be Newport-centric in RI; rest of the state calls it Tautog;

The guys east of Newport; i.e. fall riv call them Te-tog

As far as snagging; maybe the DEM guy thought they were shad or herring?

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Old 10-20-2008, 11:30 PM   #3
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Wrong wrong wrong

Blackfish seems to be Newport-centric in RI; rest of the state calls it Tautog;

The guys east of Newport; i.e. fall riv call them Te-tog

As far as snagging; maybe the DEM guy thought they were shad or herring?
True enough, Bry - to me they were, are and always will be blackfish.

Using the tautog nomenclature was the first and surest way to identify someone as Not From These Parts.

The pronunciation of 'tautog' was another way to identify them by regional dialect. People from Fall River would often call them 'TIT-tog' (with accent on the first syllable) - I had a protracted discussion with Professor O'Nitis on the entomology of species names one night in a saloon - he told me that someone had written something in regards to blackfish and spelled it as it sounded - which was T-I-T-T-O-G

The abbreviated " 'Tog" was indigenous to people from the Mid-Atlantic region we determined.

Ya know, come to think of it, we were fairly well along at that point, if memory serves....

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Old 10-21-2008, 03:01 AM   #4
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This is all f-----------ing wonderful the question was weayher or not it was true or false if we could still ( SNAG POGIES OR BUN KER OR MENHADEN) HOLY F---------------ING SH-------------T.
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Sorry, ILTF...my apologies.

The answer is yes, you can still snag pogies to your heart's content.

However, the fishery for menhaden and bunker is now closed.

Anyway, did you know that the name 'pogie' is derived from the Narragansett name poghaden, which actually means 'fertilizer' in their tongue.

It was Narragansett custom to bury a pogie or other similar baitfish at the base of corn plants to nourish and enrich the soil and thus ensure a bountiful harvest in the fall.

And the best fertilizer, as we all know, is pure and unadulterated...well, nevermind

"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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Old 10-22-2008, 11:28 AM   #6
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This is all f-----------ing wonderful the question was weayher or not it was true or false if we could still ( SNAG POGIES OR BUN KER OR MENHADEN) HOLY F---------------ING SH-------------T.

Now this is funny...

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