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Old 12-23-2003, 11:57 AM   #1
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Saltwater Jock Scott

I have always been fascinated by the old traditional full dress salmon flies. Back in the fall of 2001, I tied several interpretations of them converting the patterns to large saltwater flies. The Jock Scott has become one of my favorite night time flies.
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Old 12-23-2003, 06:33 PM   #2
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Scott flies

I am not familiar with Steelie flies, but I do like that one. Many similarities to the current flat wing Ken Abraemes flies. We all know he was not the first to tie those, but is the most recent/current person to repopularize them. What have you caught on the pattern in the picture? I would like to have the directions to see if I could manage one. Thanks, Swimmer.

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Old 12-24-2003, 10:16 AM   #3
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STEELHEAD, thats DI NO MITE !
how about a real oldie I converted to salt
a SALTWATER WOLF.
" GOOD LUCK GOOD TYIN"

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Old 12-24-2003, 12:00 PM   #4
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Jock Scott Dressing

Swimmer, Here's the dressing for the Jock Scott. Ken ABrames Flatwings were the inspiratoin for the conversion. in his books, Joseph Bates talks quite a bit about the older salmon/landlocked salmon flatwings tied during the time when Carrie Stevens tied. As I recall, they were tied at the head of a long shanked hook and used for trolling.

Jock Scott Flatwing Conversion (fly is about 8” long eye of hook to end of flash)

Hook: 3/0 Eagleclaw #253
Thread: Black
Platform: Yellow Bucktail
Support: Yellow hackle curve side up to support tail
Tail (in order of assembly):
Red saddle hackle slightly longer than support hackle
Cantaloupe saddle hackle (all the following neck hackle tied about 5 ½” – 6” long)
Black saddle hackle/gold flash (2 strands typical)
Yellow saddle hackle
Yellow saddle hackle/black flash
Yellow saddle hackle/ red flash
Black saddle hackle
Brown Grizzly saddle hackle/copper flash
Yellow saddle hackle/blue flash
Red saddle hackle/gold flash
Blue saddlehackle/blue flash
Body: Bill’s body Braid, Light Blue
Collar: Black bucktail 2/3 around tied fairly full
Natural Guinea Fowl folded and wrapped several turns, pulled down and tied off as throat assembly, try to tie off so that this will be a background for the Jungle Cock eye
Topping (in order of assembly):Peacock herl (6-7 strands) tied to end at end of neck hackle in tail assembly
Count 30 – 35 Natural Brown Bucktail from the top of a natural white bucktail
Brown Grizzly saddle hackle (41/2” –5” long)
Golden Pheasant crest
Cheek/Eye: Tuft of Turquoise saddle hackle tied in above Jungle Cock eye

NOTE: Red, Yellow and Blue are Primary colors (bright)
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Old 12-24-2003, 12:02 PM   #5
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Saltydog. Very nice fly! It looks like it would be a great wounded bunker fly. Can you post the pattern? I especially like the way the white collar veils the red tail. Are there two colors on the body?
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Old 12-24-2003, 08:13 PM   #6
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STEELHEAD thanks for posting the patten. I will be doing some of thoes myself. thats a beauty.
patten saltwater wolf
your favorite hook
tail red deerhair 3"
body dark blue estas
red chenille collar ( to help spread deerhair)
white deer hair all around
tie off an your good to go.
GOOD LUCK GOOD TYIN"

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Old 12-26-2003, 10:18 AM   #7
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Steelhead,that be a keeper nice tie.
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