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12-19-2003, 10:04 AM
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Looking for stainless siwash closed loop hooks
by the box...anyone know a good source?
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12-19-2003, 01:30 PM
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Habs might be able to help you out.
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12-19-2003, 01:43 PM
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WHY stainless...
I can get you VMC perma steel in any size you want, closed or open eyes, by 25 or 1000, or 10000
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12-19-2003, 01:54 PM
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VMC's in Siwash bend? The vmcs are strong but the do rust a little.
BTW what is your source for them?
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12-19-2003, 01:59 PM
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VMC siwash hooks don't bend man. If you do then you need a bigger rod 
I buy factory direct. |
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12-19-2003, 01:59 PM
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And the perma steel finish is one of the best out there. MUCHO stronger than stainless too.....
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12-19-2003, 02:10 PM
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I know they are strong as hell but they do rust. I like the treble hooks. I have had to swap them out from time to time that fishish does seem to where off then they get a surface rust. Still they are 10X better then any other hook.
I use to use hand braized stainless treble hooks on all my plugs but now they are all vmc. I still like the tail hook on metals to be stainless
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12-19-2003, 02:15 PM
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From VMC
CLAW POINT SALMON SIWASH
#7172 SS
Open ring stainless steel 3X strong
Pinch the ring closed and you'll be good to go.
Tough as nails.
Bernzy
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12-19-2003, 02:37 PM
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They don't carry the 7172 anymore Bernzy.
Sandman I would stick with the PS hooks, I've not seen them rust anything significant in the 1.5 years I been using them, and the PS hooks are not brittle like the stainless hooks are....but your plugs so whatever |
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12-19-2003, 02:43 PM
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Got that Sandman
I'll do it now for you |
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12-19-2003, 02:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
They don't carry the 7172 anymore Bernzy.
Sandman I would stick with the PS hooks, I've not seen them rust anything significant in the 1.5 years I been using them, and the PS hooks are not brittle like the stainless hooks are....but your plugs so whatever
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I didn't know they 86ed that hook, too bad, nice hook.
If you need stainless go with the VMC 7171SS. A much better hook than the Mustad counterpart.
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12-19-2003, 02:57 PM
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Bernzy I called VMC a few minutes ago to check that other number cuz it wasn't in the current catalog and they said they don't make ANY siwash hooks in stainless anymore.....just the PS hooks. He said the 7172 was more of a octopus hook also...
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12-19-2003, 03:39 PM
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I just got this email
Please be advised that you can order any of our fish hooks from a company by the name of Stamina Components at 763-253-0450. We currently have sizes 4/0, 5/0, 7/0 and 8/0 in stock of the 7171SS hooks. Thank you for your interest in our products.
VMC Inc.
Customer Service
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12-19-2003, 03:59 PM
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NO LONGER AVAILABLE per VMC. Whoever told you they still had them was mistaken....Stamina may have some left over but they won't ever have any more per VMC....
Jim I'm out of the 8/0 siwashes right now too, got 9's that's it.
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12-22-2003, 10:37 AM
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Jim I found a stash of the 8/0's 
Something else FELL into the box too |
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12-22-2003, 11:15 AM
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your great salty! Merry Xmas to you and yours...
I got a email this AM from stamina...
This is a discontinued hook - VMC is no longer making them. They do have 4/0's and 5/0's left in stock - but no 6/0 or 7/0's.
price per 100 for these:
4/0 $37.35 per 100
5/0 $48.50 per 100
once they are gone - they are gone
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12-22-2003, 11:20 AM
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VMC has discontinued ALL siwash hooks from 6/0 and up now 
I and others are not very happy campers......
The 5/0 is a good hook, but it's probably 1/2 the diameter of the 6/0 and thus it's MUCH weaker.
You will start seeing more TREBLE hooks on the rear of lures now |
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12-22-2003, 11:46 AM
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Salty, sorry this was in reference to the 7171SS VMC
not the others
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12-22-2003, 11:49 AM
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I know but I was letting everyone know that ALL the VMC siwashes are discontinued now........anything from 6/0 and up......even the Permasteel 9171 |
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12-22-2003, 12:09 PM
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oh that does suck...how many 6/0's do you have?  |
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12-22-2003, 12:23 PM
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Another option would be Eagle Claw # L208SS and the L211SS
Available from 4/0-8/0
I use these hooks, and they are as tough as anything out there.
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12-22-2003, 12:25 PM
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do you like the mustads? I found a source for those
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12-22-2003, 12:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
do you like the mustads? I found a source for those
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The Eagle Claws are a tougher hook, IMHO, and they are less expensive.
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12-22-2003, 02:35 PM
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I've used the Eagle Claws before and they are a good hook, I think better than the Mustad.
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12-22-2003, 05:54 PM
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Salty,
what the hell is this?
http://www.#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&.com/images/pinkdink.jpg
Does it catch fish? if not, pull those hooks off and my wife may like it 
Actually, that would be a hoot to have on board...got any you want to sell?
Last edited by Mr. Sandman; 12-22-2003 at 05:56 PM..
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12-22-2003, 06:00 PM
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Lamb-skin plug  |
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12-22-2003, 06:00 PM
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Well that was AWARDED to someone who saw fit to break my nutz online....so I made it and sent it to him......told him if he couldn't catch a fish with it then at least he could say he had a BIG PINK $#NK
I been thinkin bout makin some more, few guys have asked for them now |
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12-22-2003, 06:13 PM
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put me down for a few...I know some guys that would just die when I put that on their line...
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