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09-26-2005, 12:45 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Cumberland, RI
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Blocked ROW's
So what would it take to get blocked ROW's unblocked. Legaly what would have to happen.
Anyone know?
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09-26-2005, 12:53 PM
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For Quonnie you need to get the CRMC involved, at least to get the fence and pots removed from the the wall. That is state owned.
Many other other ROWs are deeded by town, which you'd need to work with city hall and DEM.
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09-26-2005, 12:54 PM
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sick of bluefish
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I believe Exlax is sold over the counter.

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09-26-2005, 12:57 PM
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Keep The Change
Join Date: Oct 2000
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For my first course of action I would contact the Coastal Resource Management Council http://www.crmc.state.ri.us/ They are the keepers of the ROWS and would be the first government organization to get involved on ROW issues. Beyond that I don't really know where to go, but someone at CRMC could probably direct you there.
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“It’s not up to the courts to invent new minorities that get special protections,” Antonin Scalia
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09-26-2005, 01:39 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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There may be other inititaves at work here already to address a specific blocked access. Starting another access war could impede the other efforts. Hopefully I can get some answers soon...
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
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09-26-2005, 02:11 PM
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Registered User
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Location: Cranston
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Blocked ROW's
Is there a list somewhere that names or shows were all the ROW's are???
How can a person find out where there are ROW's???
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09-26-2005, 02:23 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
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There is a publication available that lists EVERY ROW in RI. The only place that I have seen it for sale is at Quaker Lane.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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09-26-2005, 02:34 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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JFugulo...
send me a PM or email through the site...
I'll put you intouch with someone at CRMC....
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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09-26-2005, 03:30 PM
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Geezer Gone Wild
Join Date: Nov 2001
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RISAA also has an Access Committee which has been pretty effective and they carry some weight on RI issues - I'll talk to Bob Moeller at tonight's meeting to see what's going on.
I haven't fished Q in many moons but I figure we either hang together on access problems or we'll end up hanging alone.
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"There is no royal road to this heavy surf-fishing. With all the appliances for comfort experience can suggest, there is a certain amount of hard work to be done and exposure to be bourne as a part of the price of success." From "Striped Bass," Scribner's Magazine, 1881.
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09-26-2005, 03:46 PM
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Keep The Change
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crafty Angler
we either hang together on access problems or we'll end up hanging alone.
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Well said, this is probably the single most important issue we as a group of individual fishermen must learn to understand. As a rule fishermen are very independent, if we don't get together on the access issue in particular we lose..
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“It’s not up to the courts to invent new minorities that get special protections,” Antonin Scalia
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09-26-2005, 03:53 PM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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I agree also, however I think it needs to be clearly stated/known that such groups are representing a large number of anglers, not just a few. While I think dividing and conquering isnt the right move, making sure they know lots of people are concerned from lots of different groups. just my humble 0.02
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Bryan
Originally Posted by #^^^^^^^^^^^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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09-26-2005, 04:11 PM
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Location: Newtown, CT
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All it would really take is a good lawyer, working pro bono, to file suit on behalf of the citizens of RI against those illegally blocking the ROW. You can work "behind the scenes" all you want, with groups representing thousands of anglers. Several winning lawsuits and supoenas served on those unwilling to clear what they have obstructed will get the offenders attention much quicker, when they have to lay out their own CA$H to defend their actions.
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09-26-2005, 05:30 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Optical Rectumitis....
Last edited by JohnR; 09-26-2005 at 07:49 PM..
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Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
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09-26-2005, 05:53 PM
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Location: RI
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Did somebody mention fashion???
I'm all for it. Sounds like a great winter project...
-spence
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09-26-2005, 06:47 PM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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I'll edit my post if you edit yours
(notice I did not say that I would just exercise my powers and do it myself)
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Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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09-26-2005, 06:59 PM
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what post ? 
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09-26-2005, 07:26 PM
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While i can understand people want to keep certain access spots low key, is it that big a deal to help someone out who maybe only fishes a certain spot a a handful of times a year and just wants to know if there are any PUBLIC access spots so i dont get arrested or harrased by the locals? some of you seem a little selfish and have the attitude of hey, I know were the access spots are and thats all that matters so screw you. ONE angler who asks for a little advice as to not get in trouble with the law and to maybe SAVE some spots by getting there legally is still denied by some. Now Eben, you had NO problem with the extreme spot burning in OTW this month wich will be read by thousands...what is the difference here? And its ONE guy versus thousands knowing! I know i didnt state it but i was just looking for a PM responce to keep it low key. Thanks to the few good folks who ansered my question via PM wich was nice. Thats all i wanted...to find out access and save my ass and save the spot as to not make it any worse for others. Or just dont help me out and i'll go trek through someones yard by mistake thinking it might be the ROW and get it closed down for everyone. What makes more sense?
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09-26-2005, 07:36 PM
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skip i didnt have a problem until i read it. after i read it i had many problems with it.
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09-26-2005, 08:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
skip i didnt have a problem until i read it. after i read it i had many problems with it.
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Ok I must have missed that...Turned into a long thread so i must have missed that part. Can you kinda see my point in a way though? Ragrding the trying to not screw it for the rest by using the legal ROW's. Touchy issue i guess.
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09-26-2005, 08:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip N
Ok I must have missed that...Turned into a long thread so i must have missed that part. Can you kinda see my point in a way though? Ragrding the trying to not screw it for the rest by using the legal ROW's. Touchy issue i guess.
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The legal right of ways have been obstructed. Go around but for God's sake, please don't cut through any yards...
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
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Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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09-26-2005, 08:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
The legal right of ways have been obstructed. Go around but for God's sake, please don't cut through any yards...
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Thats excactlly what i am trying to avoid John. I was there Sunday AM and think i went through someones yard by mistake. It started out looking like a path but then went into someones yard! This is why i wanted to know what the deal was down there. To save my arse and to not cause any issues for other anglers in the future. Thanks for you input.
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09-26-2005, 08:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
The legal right of ways have been obstructed. Go around but for God's sake, please don't cut through any yards...
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and dont vote republican this time.... jumpin jehosiphats, do we have to teach you everything????
send me a pm when you plan on going and i will hapily show you the ropes down there if our outings overlap.
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09-26-2005, 08:40 PM
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Quonnie is FAR from a low key spot, since being blown up by the local B&T. Its not a quite spot, and in the face of a serious loss of entry, Id think keeping it "low" would be more of detriment. I think it imperiative that access to that area be restored, and am surprised it has remained blocked for 3+ years.
It ought to be on RISSA's high priority list and RI anglers should be kept informed on any status to its regard.
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09-26-2005, 08:42 PM
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krispy if you want it quiet, then why do you want the ROW's open??? 
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09-26-2005, 11:45 PM
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huh??
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09-27-2005, 12:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nebe
and dont vote republican this time.... jumpin jehosiphats, do we have to teach you everything????
send me a pm when you plan on going and i will hapily show you the ropes down there if our outings overlap.
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Im a republican so i dont know anything remember? I only know what the right wing folks brain wash me with  Only you could somehow get a political jab in on this topic!  I'll let ya know if i venture down that way anytime soon. Hopefully a couple times a week this fall i will make it to SoCo. I'm really starting to love it down that way. Kinda glad my usual spots have sucked so far so its forcing me to fish new waters. Alot more fun fishing new areas thats for sure.
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09-27-2005, 07:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnR
Optical Rectumitis....
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You talking to me?
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09-27-2005, 07:42 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
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I once knew Latin....
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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09-27-2005, 09:04 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MakoMike
You talking to me?
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no - between me and Eben, nothing whatsoever to do with you...
Krispy - there is an initiative supposedly happening about there. When something becomes more concrete, like a plan, that's when it should get its due. But it would be premature to shoot off in all directions until its time to shoot off... I've been avoiding that place for the most part...
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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09-27-2005, 09:14 AM
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What I was trying to say was, keeping it low key is not worth losing the ROW. Keeping the ROW will require angler awareness to the situation. Quonnie is well known, theres no keeping it quiet anyway.
John, I understand.
Ive been to the hard side just a few times this year 
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