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11-21-2007, 09:54 AM
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Registered User
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Location: RI
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Top Single Condition for Fish
For me, it's the presence of baitfish, but I may be oversimplifying, because something had to have got the whole thing started by attracting the baitfish in the first place.
So if you had to pick one, under what single condition do you most oftentimes find fish?
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11-21-2007, 09:57 AM
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xxx
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Playin' in the Dark
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moving water
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"Remember, my friend, that knowledge is stronger than memory, and we should not trust the weaker" - Van Helsing
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11-21-2007, 10:01 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
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I too like moving water, esp. any area that a large body of water flows out thru a smaller cut into the main body of water.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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11-21-2007, 10:06 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hyde Park, MA
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FISH 
Solitude:  I always seem to catch good fish when I'm alone.
(Go figure - it doesn't help with my "You should have been there" speech the next day.)
Seriously, I would say bait. Not massive schools, as it may interfere with you ability to get fish to hit your offering, but just the presence of bait. |
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11-21-2007, 10:16 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: trying for Truro
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25+ NW wind in my face
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All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing.
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11-21-2007, 10:16 AM
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Here fishy fishy
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Whoville
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Baitfish is the easy answer, birds certainly do the trick, but I too am a fan of the moving water, stripers love current....
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11-21-2007, 10:18 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
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Free time
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11-21-2007, 10:19 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
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because I still can....
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11-21-2007, 10:24 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Iceman 6
..... stripers love current....
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Heresy perhaps, but my experience is that while stripers are easier to catch in current, the biggest fish come out to prowl and are more accessible during slack water (or barely moving water).....not that they usually have any interest in what I'm throwing. |
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11-21-2007, 10:29 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
Free time
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Exact-a-mundo!  |
Why even try......... 
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11-21-2007, 10:30 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
Heresy perhaps, but my experience is that while stripers are easier to catch in current, the biggest fish come out to prowl and are more accessible during slack water (or barely moving water).....not that they usually have any interest in what I'm throwing.
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...most definatly, big bruisers are lazy, most of my bigger fish ( over 40lbs) have come from quiet slow moving water... |
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11-21-2007, 10:33 AM
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Lubina Estriada!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Boston, MA
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3rd night of the new moon in August.  |
Kayak Fishing Baby! Fish Reel Hard!
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11-21-2007, 10:34 AM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
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bait
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making s-b.com a kinder, gentler place for all 
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11-21-2007, 10:45 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2000
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A bass' willingness to bite what I'm throwing.
DZ
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DZ
Recreational Surfcaster
"Limit Your Kill - Don't Kill Your Limit"
Bi + Ne = SB 2
If you haven't heard of the Snowstorm Blitz of 1987 - you someday will.
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11-21-2007, 10:53 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
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when its Flat A $$ Calm ::: I,ll take that 24/7
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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11-21-2007, 11:02 AM
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Location: MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clammer
when its Flat A $$ Calm ::: I,ll take that 24/7
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11-21-2007, 11:16 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clammer
when its Flat A $$ Calm ::: I,ll take that 24/7
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.....and dark with the wind @ my back.
Presence of bait is the lowest factor for me. People make way too big a deal out of it. In fact, its completely meaningless to me whether bait is there or not. This isn't to say presence of bait doesn't often coincide with presence of fish, bbbbbbbbuttttttttttt......
.......most of the things they like to eat(like crustacenans) are difficult to detect.Bigger fish are primarily solo and sometimes in small pods. They are bottom grubbers for the most part.
Last edited by Back Beach; 11-21-2007 at 11:25 AM..
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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11-21-2007, 11:36 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Back Beach
.....and dark with the wind @ my back.
Presence of bait is the lowest factor for me. People make way too big a deal out of it. In fact, its completely meaningless to me whether bait is there or not. This isn't to say presence of bait doesn't often coincide with presence of fish, bbbbbbbbuttttttttttt......
.......most of the things they like to eat(like crustacenans) are difficult to detect.Bigger fish are primarily solo and sometimes in small pods. They are bottom grubbers for the most part.
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Yup!
My biggest this year came in the slop, but most consistent is under these conditions. I think it's all about presentation. This is easier done when it is FAC then 20kts NE in your face. |
Bryan
Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&
"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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11-21-2007, 11:51 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: plymouth,ma
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Moving water.
An hour or so into the east has been very good to me...
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11-21-2007, 12:26 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Springfield, MA
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Shore.... a flooding estuary on a moonless night, late Summer.
Water.... any forming rip inside sheltered waters.
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11-21-2007, 12:26 PM
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xxx
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Playin' in the Dark
Posts: 2,407
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
Heresy perhaps, but my experience is that while stripers are easier to catch in current, the biggest fish come out to prowl and are more accessible during slack water (or barely moving water).....not that they usually have any interest in what I'm throwing.
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yup, when i say moving water, i'm talking more about a sweep or minor rip, not raging current |
"Remember, my friend, that knowledge is stronger than memory, and we should not trust the weaker" - Van Helsing
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11-21-2007, 12:34 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: RI
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Okay, so far we've covered the gamut . . .
bait is important
bait isn't important
FAC
moving water
I can see why now it all comes down to putting your time in and having the time to do same.
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11-21-2007, 02:27 PM
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Fish Hound
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Shrewsbury, MA & Mashpee, MA
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absolutley right tamer.... with all the conflicting information out there, it comes down to u fishing if u want to be out there. cause ya kno there are gonna be countless nights when u get skunked.
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"There are many things in life that will catch your eye, but only a few will catch your heart.....pursue those."
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11-21-2007, 03:25 PM
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Location: Easton, MA
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At night near an outflow with big rocks present. Some of you probably know an area like this.  |
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11-21-2007, 03:42 PM
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Chefskeez6
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Worcester, MA
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I like current and bait but the single most important thing for me is the wind.
Wind at your my back equals very long and unproductive casting for me. I would much rather have the wind in my face. I can't cast as far but it is always more productive for me (even in the canal). I know a lot of people don't think it makes a difference in places like the canal but i'll fish whatever side of the canal puts the wind in my face if any is present.
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11-21-2007, 04:11 PM
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Marcia! Marcia! Marcia!
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Marshfield
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In my limited experiences it depends on the time of the season. Spring and fall when I'm on my skiff I'm clueing in on birds. Summer time I'm hitting spots that hold fish with no clear visible signs that they are actually there but rather going on previious experience and knowledge of what they like. Personally I love getting to a spot and not seeing anything until WHAM they hit your plug or sluggo and the game is on.
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"Sunshine Day Dream"
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11-21-2007, 04:15 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: North Cambridge, MA
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live (moving) water
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11-21-2007, 04:40 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
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Depending on where I am fishing, there is not one single factor
structure, moving water, and bait. I try not to over think but never it happens. just get out and fish
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey 
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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11-21-2007, 05:06 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: marshfield,ma
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100% agree with you mike. Big fish setup in locations where they can scrounge weather it be lobsters, juvenile tog, scup, crabs etc... Deep water with nearshore reefs, boulders etc are my favorite. Wind to me means nothing other than the fact that if it is blowing more than 10knts in my face im going to sleep or finding a spot with the wind at my back.
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11-21-2007, 10:39 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Newport, RI
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Quote:
Originally Posted by riverrat2
100% agree with you mike. Big fish setup in locations where they can scrounge weather it be lobsters, juvenile tog, scup, crabs etc... Deep water with nearshore reefs, boulders etc are my favorite. Wind to me means nothing other than the fact that if it is blowing more than 10knts in my face im going to sleep or finding a spot with the wind at my back.
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I'm big on the reliable food concept too.
Big fish seem to hang where food is reliable, in any form. If a school of something tasty like bunker comes by, so be it, they take advantage. But otherwise all they have to do is wait for nightfall and they go on the prowl and enjoy what's around. |
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