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02-15-2008, 12:11 PM
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Southsider
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bass River, Mass.
Posts: 1,226
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Question on Documented Vessels
If a vessel is documented rather than registered with the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, how does sales tax get collected?
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02-15-2008, 05:28 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: 14000 / 44031.5
Posts: 932
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no sales tax if she's documented.
got an announcement to make?
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02-15-2008, 05:43 PM
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Spot Preserver
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 2,461
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Is there a new boat in your fleet?  |
Make America Great Again.
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02-15-2008, 06:07 PM
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Southsider
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bass River, Mass.
Posts: 1,226
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Quote:
Originally Posted by big jay
no sales tax if she's documented.
got an announcement to make?
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No Sales Tax?!?!?!? 
As a matter of fact..... |
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02-15-2008, 06:16 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
Posts: 9,703
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Congrats Hooper.
Beautiful boat !!!
I've looked at that on Yachtworld Many times.
I saw it has said Sale pending!
I want a ride!!!
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02-15-2008, 06:22 PM
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Spot Preserver
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 2,461
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Absolutely beautiful; gordo you hit a home run with that. So when are we going to put some fish on that deck?
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Make America Great Again.
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02-15-2008, 06:58 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Location: South of Boston
Posts: 2,605
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Hooper that thing is pimp! I love those BHM hulls. You are gonna have a great time in that boat. Congrats!  |
The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. ~John Buchan
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02-15-2008, 07:00 PM
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Spot Preserver
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 2,461
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I'm jealous.
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Make America Great Again.
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02-15-2008, 07:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: 14000 / 44031.5
Posts: 932
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Congrats Gordo!
My dad told me what you had in the works, I've seen her on-line too - gorgeous boat. Good luck with her.
I've got stern control envy.
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02-15-2008, 07:26 PM
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DDG-51
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,550
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congrats she's a beauty |
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02-15-2008, 07:49 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
Posts: 9,703
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keeperreaper
I'm jealous.
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ME TOO !!! |
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02-15-2008, 08:23 PM
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Spot Preserver
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 2,461
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Gordon,
What is the fuel burn on that work of art?
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Make America Great Again.
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02-15-2008, 08:34 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
Posts: 9,703
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I know that exact set up with the 315 Yanmar @ 18-20 cruise is about 7 gals per hr.
I'll guess just a bit more .
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02-15-2008, 08:48 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: East Prov RI
Posts: 1,501
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sweet , gl with her
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02-15-2008, 09:00 PM
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Southsider
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bass River, Mass.
Posts: 1,226
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Thanks guys, I was told that a 17 kt cruise is 7 gph, but, we'll see...
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02-16-2008, 12:24 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Marshfield, MA
Posts: 1,751
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Quote:
Originally Posted by keeperreaper
I'm jealous.
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ME THREE! Nice Hooper , real nice. Best of luck!!!!! |
Jon, 24' Nauset-Green Topsides, Beamie, North River. Channel 68/69. MSBA, NIBA
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02-16-2008, 05:35 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 305
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sales tax
If you register it in MA you will be required to pay sales/use tax. There is an exemption form on this site. If you register it as a commercial fishing boat there is an exemption. http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=dortermi...st_6&csid=Ador |
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02-16-2008, 05:45 PM
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Southsider
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bass River, Mass.
Posts: 1,226
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Team Rock On
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Interesting, I wonder if my NMFS 300# cod permit would past muster... |
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02-16-2008, 05:46 PM
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Spot Preserver
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Mansfield
Posts: 2,461
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Its worth a shot.
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Make America Great Again.
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02-16-2008, 06:00 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 305
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You have to fill out a form that states, under the penalties of perjury, that the boat will be used for commercial fishing only. I think you have to register it as a commercial vessel , and of course insure it commercially too. If you do document it, you will be required to pay a "use" tax of 5%(I screwed up my last post). This happened to us about 5 years ago when we bought a documented boat with no title from a MA resident . They wouldn't give us a title until they could locate the past owner and get the use tax he never paid.
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02-16-2008, 07:11 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Beautiful boat. I am not familiar with it. What are the specifics if you don't mind, like size, manufacturer, etc.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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02-16-2008, 07:20 PM
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Great White Scup Hunter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In the Corner...
Posts: 2,251
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Sweet boat,,,,,
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02-16-2008, 08:06 PM
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Southsider
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bass River, Mass.
Posts: 1,226
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorM
Beautiful boat. I am not familiar with it. What are the specifics if you don't mind, like size, manufacturer, etc.
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Prof. M-
Thank you....
It's a 28' Seaworthy. The hull was originally a BHM 28 but it's my understanding that at some point the mold was bought by a fellow, Steve Law who now builds them under this new name in Arundel, Maine if I am not mistaken.
Most of them seem to get a Yanmar 315 which seems to be the perfect match for this hull, 18 kt cruise is about right. This one has a 63 series 370hp Volvo, I was told the original owner wanted a bigger engine...
They are now being marketed by NE Yachts and they seem to be doing a good job promoting them. But, you have to want a downeast boat. It's not gonna run at 30 kts, It's a single engine. They handle best running 18 or so. Not for everyone, but they are sure great to fish this area. |
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02-16-2008, 09:32 PM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Thank you. Great lines. Wish you the best with it.
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"A beach is a place where a man can feel he's the only soul in the world that's real"
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02-17-2008, 04:18 AM
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Seal Control
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Caver, Ma.
Posts: 3,875
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Awsome boat Hooper!! Congrats! And like the rest I wish I wish!! |
"All my friends are Flakes!!"
BOATLESS 
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02-18-2008, 08:03 AM
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Got Necco's?
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Franklin
Posts: 1,339
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Great boat Gordon, best of luck with it!
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HAMMER TIME! 
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02-18-2008, 08:58 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
Posts: 5,659
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Congrats! May states ( RI and NY among them) require a documented boat to be registered wit the state. Different reg than what is required of undocumented boats and lesser fees. Then they get you for the sales tax when you go to register the boat.
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02-18-2008, 09:09 AM
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Southsider
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bass River, Mass.
Posts: 1,226
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MakoMike
Congrats! May states ( RI and NY among them) require a documented boat to be registered wit the state. Different reg than what is required of undocumented boats and lesser fees. Then they get you for the sales tax when you go to register the boat.
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My optimism wanes..... what can you do, death and taxes  |
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02-18-2008, 12:04 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Chatham, MA
Posts: 424
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Great lookin boat, best of luck with her. Maybe I missed this but does anyone know where o go or what department to conact to get a vessel documented, in Massachusetts? I've always wanted to do that with one of my boats.
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02-18-2008, 02:28 PM
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Southsider
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Bass River, Mass.
Posts: 1,226
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptMike
Great lookin boat, best of luck with her. Maybe I missed this but does anyone know where o go or what department to conact to get a vessel documented, in Massachusetts? I've always wanted to do that with one of my boats.
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I haven't started getting the ball rolling yet Mike, but I think this site explains it all:
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-m/vdoc/nvdc.htm |
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