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05-18-2008, 04:38 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: RI
Posts: 677
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So You Get to Your Spot and There's Surfers
Do you bother to fish or go to another spot?
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05-18-2008, 05:03 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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I would try to fish but if it was unsafe for the surfer I would go and try a back up spot. Surfers don't surf at night
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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05-18-2008, 05:35 PM
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sick of bluefish
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: TEXAS
Posts: 8,672
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That would mean you're fishing in the daylight and should just go home anyway
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making s-b.com a kinder, gentler place for all
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05-18-2008, 05:36 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Libtardia
Posts: 21,690
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you leave them alone. They were there first.
Hopefully, they will do the same when they find you there..
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05-18-2008, 05:47 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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Eben nailed it....they got there first! If I was there first and they showed up and started surfing (and this has happened to me before).....you tell them to move the hell on......no listen......I take out the 3 oz. Orange pencil repleat with 3/0 trebles and I make it known that I intend to continue fishing......what I catch is entirely up to the surfers! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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05-18-2008, 05:56 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Sturbridge MA
Posts: 3,127
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It happened to me a couple weeks ago. I drove there, bout 20 miles from where i was and it was chock full of surfers. I just watched em for a little bit and moved on. No prob last night, got there at 8 oclock, just as they were packing it up for the day.
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Everything is better on the rocks.
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05-18-2008, 06:02 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: N.K.
Posts: 1,330
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I move on while doing my best great white call.
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05-18-2008, 06:26 PM
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The one that got away
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: K'Port, ME/Westford, MA
Posts: 118
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I fish and surf. I see both sides of this. Surfing is impossible at night unless youre near a pier where its lighted. For those of you who are not night owls, theres plenty of great spots where waves break that are unsurfable. In any situation where there are fishers and surfers just remember respect gets respect, and it works both ways.
PS Bigfish- Please cast one my way when I'm surfing, ill snag it. those things are expensive 
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Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day.
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05-18-2008, 06:38 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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I will keep my hooks sharp Hulky! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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05-18-2008, 06:39 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
Posts: 9,703
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If you hook into a surfer, I wounder if they will give a good fight ! 
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05-18-2008, 07:23 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Hanover
Posts: 23,392
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I can guarantee they will! 
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Almost time to get our fish on!!!
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05-18-2008, 07:23 PM
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Curmudgeon
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Patchogue & NYC
Posts: 203
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Several people have it right; I never run into to surfers at 1AM  
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I'd rather be fishing!
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05-18-2008, 07:29 PM
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Fish Hound
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Shrewsbury, MA & Mashpee, MA
Posts: 1,159
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Quote:
Originally Posted by emgred
Several people have it right; I never run into to surfers at 1AM  
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no joke...i have ran seen some surfers out there in those hours on the outer cape. some of them are just as crazy as we are 
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"There are many things in life that will catch your eye, but only a few will catch your heart.....pursue those."
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05-18-2008, 07:34 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: 14000 / 44031.5
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie
If you hook into a surfer, I wounder if they will give a good fight ! 
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Sure - once they paddle in and punch the guy that threw a plug at them 
Last edited by big jay; 05-18-2008 at 07:40 PM..
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05-18-2008, 07:40 PM
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#15
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 3,650
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Surfers show up and start surfing then give you the big f-u - I've never seen them leave because someone was fishing there first. The little brown signs designate the areas as fishing spots, not surfing spots.
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05-18-2008, 07:43 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: RI
Posts: 677
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Well, I guess what I was getting at, when I started this thread is I'd like to know if decent size fish still hang around with surfers in the water. No need to fish, if the fish are not there. Has anyone done well with surfers in the water?
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05-18-2008, 07:44 PM
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ditch boy
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: the sea
Posts: 664
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunpowder
no joke...i have ran seen some surfers out there in those hours on the outer cape. some of them are just as crazy as we are 
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.....you sure about that mike? 
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05-18-2008, 07:57 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 3,650
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Surfers don't usually spook fish - neither does a guy with a spear gun.
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05-18-2008, 09:13 PM
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
Posts: 5,871
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe
Surfers show up and start surfing then give you the big f-u - I've never seen them leave because someone was fishing there first.
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Well given the attitude of some of the RI surf fishermen, this doesn't seem very surprising. Birds of a feather I guess. 
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Ski Quicks Hole
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05-18-2008, 09:29 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Whitman,Ma.
Posts: 4,263
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They were there 1st
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I'm going where I'm going...
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05-18-2008, 09:53 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 3,650
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I think the difference is when there are surfers in a spot first, fishermen typically go someplace else. When people are fishing, the surfers could care less - that's been my experience.
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05-19-2008, 01:26 AM
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a man of few words
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 59
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I have a good relationship with the surfers where I fish, sometimes they know if there are fish in the area, which is priceless. I just fish around them.
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05-19-2008, 09:29 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 492
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Last year in Maine I almost came to blows with a surfer. I moved twice down the beach and each time he eventually surfed right where I was fishing. I yelled out to him to have some courtesy. This caused him to charge up onto the beach. Words were exchanged. I did cast a plug pretty close to him a couple of times after that.
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05-19-2008, 10:24 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe
Surfers show up and start surfing then give you the big f-u - I've never seen them leave because someone was fishing there first. The little brown signs designate the areas as fishing spots, not surfing spots.
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I was just talking about this the other day!! It really pisses me off. I would have the common curtousy if I showed up to a spot and surfers where there ... to MOVE... BUT if Im fishing a spot and THEY show up after me.. I would think they would move... NOT THE CASE... F'ers. no love from them... no love from me... they better be carrying a knife to cut my braid.
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05-19-2008, 10:48 AM
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Guest
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You dont OWN THE OCEAN
You dont OWN THE OCEAN. That is unless your a commmercial Lobsterman. (Ask them Tey will tell you that they own it)
Whoever is on the spot first has the right of way.
The exception to this is if your fishing a navigatable waterway and a vessel. (Canoe, Tugboat with Barge) or anything else needs to pass by.
Its a vastly differnt story if your say SCUBA Diving and are anchored and are flying a code alpha and a divers flag and some idiot desides to do donuts arour your flag or drag lobster pots around in circles until they hit you.
Then I say lay out the Steel Cable on the fishing line and let them snarl up their props in it.
Or with Surfers: If they were there first, then they have priority, If you were fishing firt then they should move on to a differnt spot.
Cast net for Bait?

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05-19-2008, 11:28 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Uh, in a spot....
Posts: 5,451
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I said it many times in my past career as a writer of piscatorial pursuits that it is the wise surfcaster who befriends the surfers and talk with them regularly. Surfers see fish all the time, espeically on the outer cape where they wait beyond the bar for the wave to form as it goes over it.
What they see that you can't and what they will tell you should incorporate into your midnight hunt.
Show the surfer dudes some love and respect and you will benefit greatly from avoiding casting into the dark into lifeless water.
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Why even try.........
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05-19-2008, 11:28 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: To close to water for my insanity
Posts: 884
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If there there first I leave, unless im fishing for bluefish then I make some cast...sortha like West Dennise beach....they are always there.
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05-19-2008, 12:49 PM
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#28
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Southeastern MA
Posts: 394
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I agree; whoever is there first.
I also think the situation can vary too depending on whether you are talking about a beach break like cape beach or reefs in RI. A beach break is easy for a surfer to move down the beach but unless they have a particular bar that is working. But reef breaks have a defined area that you can expect them to be on during a good swell.
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05-19-2008, 02:17 PM
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woody
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Port St Lucie Fla.
Posts: 1,062
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
Eben nailed it....they got there first! If I was there first and they showed up and started surfing (and this has happened to me before).....you tell them to move the hell on......no listen......I take out the 3 oz. Orange pencil repleat with 3/0 trebles and I make it known that I intend to continue fishing......what I catch is entirely up to the surfers! 
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this happen to me and they called the police on me the cop told me they have more rights that you go figure.
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You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a
Clipboard.
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05-19-2008, 02:22 PM
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#30
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lobster = striper bait
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Popes Island Performing Arts Center
Posts: 5,871
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Throwing a plug at em = assault.
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Ski Quicks Hole
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