TOSSED

[Sea Dangles]

Today in the mail Sean Bradshaw received a letter from On The Water informing him he was being removed from the Striper Cup.In a show of solidarity Team Striper will most likely withdraw from the Cup.

[ProfessorM]

Why. Did he fail a lie detector test or something?

[Sea Dangles]

No, apparently the newspaper article was conclusive enough for OTW to DQ the young lad.

[striperman36]

what newspaper article?

[striperman36]

http://striped-bass.com/Stripertalk/...ad.php?t=52022

Wow, well well

[nightfighter]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Today in the mail Sean Bradshaw received a letter from On The Water informing him he was being removed from the Striper Cup.In a show of solidarity Team Striper will most likely withdraw from the Cup.

A show of solidarity for what????? That is ridiculous.

[BigFish]

So....Team S-B wins?

[ProfessorM]

kind of looks like it if they withdraw the team. Why they would do that I have no idea. Probably be an * after it though. IMO not worth it if you don't do it yourself,others may think differently.

[BigFish]

Bradshaw has a 51 from a boat.....subtract that from the score and add the next largest fish they have and probably not enough to win! Striper Cup Fest should be quite interesting!

[BigFish]

Oh....and a big KUDOS to OTW for dropping the bum!

[Dad 818]

Originally Posted by BigFish

Oh....and a big KUDOS to OTW for dropping the bum!

Without a doubt.

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by BigFish

Bradshaw has a 51 from a boat.....subtract that from the score and add the next largest fish they have and probably not enough to win! Striper Cup Fest should be quite interesting!

Larry--they're ahead of us by something like 25-30 points. I guarantee you that their 11th place fish is mid to high 40s, minimum.

[BigFish]

Why would they withdraw??? Just because of 1 bad apple in the barrel?

[FishTwoO]

Oh thou doest protest to much!

[5/0]

Good things come to those who deserve it,& some get what they deserve.


5/0

[Squid kids Dad]

Hummmmm..Interesting

[ivanputski]

striper cup should be INDIVIDUAL...or two-man at the most... not teams...

[Mike P]

Originally Posted by BigFish

Why would they withdraw??? Just because of 1 bad apple in the barrel?

If I had to try to be a mind reader, maybe because they feel that OTW pre-judged guilt without a court adjudication. If my memory is correct, they waited unti Major's case was heard in Edgartown District Court until they tossed him.

Not that my opinion matters much, but I think withdrawing on their part is ill advised. While some might understand the rationale if it is as I guessed, many others would view it as showing solidarity with a poacher. If they want to have Bradshaw up on the stage accepting the Cup with the rest of their team, that's their prerogative.

[nklinesider]

well i hope the court system feels the same way OTW does. im looking forward to Striper Fest more now to see the outcome of everything.

[Flaptail]

Obviously, from the report of the RI/CT environmental people, and I suspect that they do not do these things half assed, and given the amount of Bass the paocher had, his ass should get tossed and if "Team Striper" goes out in solidarity with this poacher, then others from that team probably had knowledge of what he was doing as well.

The whole team should withdraw, if they don't there will always be a shadow of doubt as to the legality of the taking the Cup on thier part, accomplices or not to the acts of this loser.

It would actually be too bad if they don't as it will dampen the enthusiasm of the legitimate contestants for further participation.

OTW did the right thing in this case especially given the closeness of the end of the tourney, they had to act.

[Raven]

with the New England Patriots

and then you say... "well, who knew"

[BigFish]

Yeah like I need to wait to see if he is guilty? Explain to me why he had all that bass at his home?? Guilty! Next case!

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by Mike P

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Not that my opinion matters much, but I think withdrawing on their part is ill advised. While some might understand the rationale if it is as I guessed, many others would view it as showing solidarity with a poacher. If they want to have Bradshaw up on the stage accepting the Cup with the rest of their team, that's their prerogative.

Very well said.

[Sea Dangles]

It's hard to know what to do when two old school anglers like Flap and Numb present contrarian opinions. Please expound on your views so the powers that be can become enlightened. This is good stuff.

[Nebe]

here is my thoughts- I am totally anti-competitive fishing these days, but If you have a guy who is a hard core poacher and he is fishing for team striper, who is to say that the hard core poacher isnt letting other members of his team weigh in any of the larger fish under their names?

For example, lets say he had 3 dead 45 lbers on ice.. who is to say that he didnt allow fellow members to borrow one to weigh......

I am not saying that they did this, but come on... somehow I doubt a poacher of this magnitude would not think of cheating...

If it were me and I ran the tournament, I would not boot the whole %$%$%$%$ing team, but I would have them all do a polygraph test to disprove any cheating.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by Nebe

here is my thoughts- I am totally anti-competitive fishing these days, but If you have a guy who is a hard core poacher and he is fishing for team striper, who is to say that the hard core poacher isnt letting other members of his team weigh in any of the larger fish under their names?

For example, lets say he had 3 dead 45 lbers on ice.. who is to say that he didnt allow fellow members to borrow one to weigh......

I am not saying that they did this, but come on... somehow I doubt a poacher of this magnitude would not think of cheating...

If it were me and I ran the tournament, I would not boot the whole %$%$%$%$ing team, but I would have them all do a polygraph test to disprove any cheating.

I am thinking this too. Who's to say he didn't catch all the fish and had 'conveniently' shared his fish with the team. To me the entire team's weigh in is suspect.

[Sea Dangles]

I ,again say test anyone who has a key to the truck. The winning team gets nothing. The anglers of the year get nothing. There were widespread rumors of last years winners passing fish. Another where a shore caught angler scored a cow on a boat.Too much hippy spinach will get the best of your imagination sometimes. One thing I am certain of is that none of the anglers on Team Striper needs anyone else's fish to weigh in.These aren't the type who fish to get their pictures in magazines or websites.Guys on Team Striper were fishing in the original Schaefer with some members being multiple winners.I would guess they have caught more fifties than other teams have caught thirties. Most are comm's or have charter businesses.The only comparison I can think of would be pros vs. amateurs. I can say this with certainty as I have fished with most of the high hookers from each team. This is no disrespect to anyone on the board so please don't take it personally.My suggestion is to win or lose with class. Leave the sour grapes for losers.

[BigFish]

You can't throw a blanket over the entire team for the actions of one! I believe if the others knew what he was doing they would have expelled him themselves? Guilty by association? I do not believe you can lump the other members in with that jack ass! I feel bad for the rest of the team but I think Mike P. is right on....they should not side with him by resigning from the competition......it would show that they might possibly have had knowledge of what was going on......however they may be of the belief that their teams accomplishment is somehow tainted and would not want to cast a pall over the integrity of the Striper Cup!

[FishTwoO]

Polygraphing the whole team sounds like a good idea,but probably would be a major headache and expense.Maybe they'll do a Marion Jones.

[BigFish]

I have said in the past that these competitions should exclude commercially licensed fishermen as they have a decided advantage over the recreational fishermen. It should be held to a strict recreational fishermen only tournament.....I believe it would weed out a good amount of the BS!