What Are You Using For Leader Material?

[Crafty Angler]

I used to use Varivas flourocarbon 50#, which was awesome - extremely abrasion resistant , tied like a dream, it wasn't cheap but it was well worth the money to me - unfortunately, the distributor isn't bringing it into the US anymore

I've gone back to using Big Game clear 50# but I'd really rather be using a good flouro - SeaGuard is junk - any thoughts on an alternative...

I've got time to go over my gear and plan my Fall strategy...and I may treat myself to a trip after the doldrums pass...

[RIROCKHOUND]

80lb berkly mono on eel rigs.

[Sea Dangles]

I have had zero issues with the product you call JUNK. It is readily available and has never failed me. Please inform us of any potential problems we may face based on your recent experiences with seaguar.
What are doldrums?An excuse to sleep perhaps.

[Crafty Angler]

Hey, I've got a new low-impact summer sport, it looks like...

Trolling for Chris...

[Thumper]

crafty check out the yo-zuri flouro, stuff wears like iron.

[luds]

I just use Ande clear in 50#. Works for me so far. I've had it fail but only after many quality fish.

[BassyiusMaximus]

I used to use Seaguar Floro, and all the other brands until one day/night I ran out and tied up a whole bunch of rigs using either Penn or Big Game leader 30-40lb test and I caught just as well with regular mono over floro so I've not gone back to florocarbon leaders.

I also tried using regular barrel swivels over the very expensive B/B barrels and also found that the fish don't give a shyt about that either. I used to think that any edge I could give myself was worth the extra money, but after using regular mono leader and plain ole' barrel swivels for connecting to the mainline and caught the same amount and all manner of sizes, I go the cheap/inexpensive route now.

[WoodyCT]

Orvis Mirage Fluorocarbon 60 or 80lb.

You will love it!

[cheferson]

Originally Posted by WoodyCT

Orvis Mirage Fluorocarbon 60 or 80lb.

You will love it!

Yes! Been using this for a while now, no problems, and its a lot cheaper then seagar.

[slow eddie]

try the berkley. it's a hell of a lot easier to use than the seagar. of course, do to my lack of success with large, i have no knot failures.

[Crafty Angler]

Thanks, men - I've been hearing good things about the Orvis Mirage - just wanted to see what was being used.

May give it a try - coupla questions, are you using 60 or 80 for eel leaders - and how does it tie up?

[numbskull]

Seagar mostly when plugging. That's what I started with when I went to Fluoro and never tried much else. Can't say I've noticed a problem. Fluorocarbon does lose strength with age......for fly tippets I've run into bad batches of several different brands.

[saltyric]

Been using 50lb big game clear mono.....seems to work fine.

[cheferson]

Originally Posted by Crafty Angler

Thanks, men - I've been hearing good things about the Orvis Mirage - just wanted to see what was being used.

May give it a try - coupla questions, are you using 60 or 80 for eel leaders - and how does it tie up?

Ive been using 52 , 60 , and 80 for eel and some plug leaders. The 52 and 60 tie easily , the 80 is a little harder , but fine. You still want those otw mags?? If not there going out to the trash on wed.

[Joe]

For a leader, I've put a picture of Pol Pot up on the wall, and I use the threat of sending myself to a re-education camp to keep me motivated.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Crafty Angler

Hey, I've got a new low-impact summer sport, it looks like...

Trolling for Chris...

Thanks for the insight,now get back to counting sheep.

[Saltheart]

For the Canal , Ande Pink in 50 LB or Ande green in 60 lb.

For the beaches , I use 30 LB Ande pink.

I tried flouro and don't like it. Ande is very tough stuff.

[jim sylvester]

chuck

ande for me


I have used orvis and liked it a lot....just not the price

[johnny ducketts]

50 lb pink Ande, my first year using the stuff and I have no complaints, not alot of fish on it, but no complaints.

[Crafty Angler]

Originally Posted by cheferson

Ive been using 52 , 60 , and 80 for eel and some plug leaders. The 52 and 60 tie easily , the 80 is a little harder , but fine. You still want those otw mags?? If not there going out to the trash on wed.

Chef, I've gotta take a trip to Quaker Lane Wednesday and can swing down your way to pick 'em up if that works for you -

Thanks for holding them - PM me the contact info, I've got the whole day off but would like to do it in the AM if possible

Yeah, think I'm gonna try the Mirage 60 - next time I'm going by the Edge I'll pick some up

[luds]

have any of you guys that use fluoro noticed a big advantage over mono in durability? for bass i don't think line visability is an issue at all but if it is that much more durable it might be worth consideration.

[Notaro]

Originally Posted by cheferson

Yes! Been using this for a while now, no problems, and its a lot cheaper then seagar.

cant even find it in the store. all fo them holds 20 lbs test. =/

i tried online before and its hard for me to tell if its in higher lbs test or not. can u point it out to me?

[cheferson]

Originally Posted by Notaro

cant even find it in the store. all fo them holds 20 lbs test. =/

i tried online before and its hard for me to tell if its in higher lbs test or not. can u point it out to me?

Select this

$15.95 40-Meter Spool .017"-.030" (SI76P6-60) , then lower down select size .030 is the 80lb , .027 is 60 . and .025 is 52. Quaker lane has it too.

[Sea Dangles]

I'd still like to know what the gripe is with seaguar Chuck.

[numbskull]

Originally Posted by luds

have any of you guys that use fluoro noticed a big advantage over mono in durability? for bass i don't think line visability is an issue at all but if it is that much more durable it might be worth consideration.

I think it has better abrasion resistance. For eel rigs it wouldn't matter, one fish is unlikely to saw through a leader, and it is simple enough to change if you have to. But I fish a long shocker (@10 ft), when that gets raked I either have to retie (bimini-uni-uni) or risk it. Mono, even the leader stuff, is softer and frays more easily so it means more down time fumbling with knots, not to mention bugs, bad eyesight, bad wading, and unwanted attention from light use. I also think fluoro makes for stronger knots.....although I've never actually tested it.

[MVbluefish]

Originally Posted by saltyric

Been using 50lb big game clear mono.....seems to work fine.

Me too, cheap and no headaches. I have used some Fluro. Seaguar but never realized any advantage and the cost is waaaay more.

[big jay]

Momoi smoke blue 60lb.

I keep a service spool on the boat and just cut what I need. Inexpensive, tough as nails, ties easy, and much smaller diameter than other brands.

[RoyL]

I use seaguar with out any issues, but have tried others that worked very well. gamma is pretty good and much easyer to find now a days, but one that has really stood out for me is Suffix both in flouro and mono. it's very abrasion resistant and ties well, plus stays very limp wich is good for some applacations. Tho the most important and probably the best leader material you can use is ...what ever you feel is the best for you. It's like every thing else, if you have confidance in it and it works for you then go with it. Hell I know grown men who won't fish with anything else then a zebco push button.

[gone fishin]

I use Ande back Country - Abrasion resistant, ties beautifuly and doesn't fail. Cheep enough to change leaders every time out. I carry spools of various weights for different conditions.

[Green Light]

Ande 50lb clear mono.

If you really like Varivas flourocarbon 50#, then I would google. I.e., there has to be a shop with overstock or some stock still on hand. You may also find a shop that will ship to the US (e.g., Canadian online vendor). If you get lucky, stock up. .

Why is Seaguar fluorocarbon junk? How is Varivas fluorocarbon technically superior to Seaguar fluorocarbon?