What Are You Using For Leader Material? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

WoodyCT · 07-20-2009, 09:53 AM

Orvis Mirage Fluorocarbon 60 or 80lb.

You will love it!

cheferson · 07-20-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by WoodyCT

Orvis Mirage Fluorocarbon 60 or 80lb.

You will love it!

Yes! Been using this for a while now, no problems, and its a lot cheaper then seagar.

Crafty Angler · 07-20-2009, 10:53 AM

Thanks, men - I've been hearing good things about the Orvis Mirage - just wanted to see what was being used.

May give it a try - coupla questions, are you using 60 or 80 for eel leaders - and how does it tie up?

cheferson · 07-20-2009, 11:27 AM

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Thanks, men - I've been hearing good things about the Orvis Mirage - just wanted to see what was being used.

May give it a try - coupla questions, are you using 60 or 80 for eel leaders - and how does it tie up?

Ive been using 52 , 60 , and 80 for eel and some plug leaders. The 52 and 60 tie easily , the 80 is a little harder , but fine. You still want those otw mags?? If not there going out to the trash on wed.

Joe · 07-20-2009, 11:41 AM

For a leader, I've put a picture of Pol Pot up on the wall, and I use the threat of sending myself to a re-education camp to keep me motivated.

Crafty Angler · 07-20-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cheferson

Ive been using 52 , 60 , and 80 for eel and some plug leaders. The 52 and 60 tie easily , the 80 is a little harder , but fine. You still want those otw mags?? If not there going out to the trash on wed.

Chef, I've gotta take a trip to Quaker Lane Wednesday and can swing down your way to pick 'em up if that works for you -

Thanks for holding them - PM me the contact info, I've got the whole day off but would like to do it in the AM if possible

Yeah, think I'm gonna try the Mirage 60 - next time I'm going by the Edge I'll pick some up

luds · 07-20-2009, 01:47 PM

have any of you guys that use fluoro noticed a big advantage over mono in durability? for bass i don't think line visability is an issue at all but if it is that much more durable it might be worth consideration.

numbskull · 07-20-2009, 04:48 PM

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have any of you guys that use fluoro noticed a big advantage over mono in durability? for bass i don't think line visability is an issue at all but if it is that much more durable it might be worth consideration.

I think it has better abrasion resistance. For eel rigs it wouldn't matter, one fish is unlikely to saw through a leader, and it is simple enough to change if you have to. But I fish a long shocker (@10 ft), when that gets raked I either have to retie (bimini-uni-uni) or risk it. Mono, even the leader stuff, is softer and frays more easily so it means more down time fumbling with knots, not to mention bugs, bad eyesight, bad wading, and unwanted attention from light use. I also think fluoro makes for stronger knots.....although I've never actually tested it.

Crafty Angler · 07-21-2009, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by luds

have any of you guys that use fluoro noticed a big advantage over mono in durability? for bass i don't think line visability is an issue at all but if it is that much more durable it might be worth consideration.

It's been a lot more abrasion resistant for me than the Big Game but the spots I fish locally are pretty bony, luds

numbskull · 07-20-2009, 10:54 AM

Seagar mostly when plugging. That's what I started with when I went to Fluoro and never tried much else. Can't say I've noticed a problem. Fluorocarbon does lose strength with age......for fly tippets I've run into bad batches of several different brands.

Notaro · 07-20-2009, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cheferson

Yes! Been using this for a while now, no problems, and its a lot cheaper then seagar.

cant even find it in the store. all fo them holds 20 lbs test. =/

i tried online before and its hard for me to tell if its in higher lbs test or not. can u point it out to me?

cheferson · 07-20-2009, 04:12 PM

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cant even find it in the store. all fo them holds 20 lbs test. =/

i tried online before and its hard for me to tell if its in higher lbs test or not. can u point it out to me?

Select this

$15.95 40-Meter Spool .017"-.030" (SI76P6-60) , then lower down select size .030 is the 80lb , .027 is 60 . and .025 is 52. Quaker lane has it too.

Sea Dangles · 07-20-2009, 04:25 PM

I'd still like to know what the gripe is with seaguar Chuck.

Crafty Angler · 07-21-2009, 05:42 AM

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I'd still like to know what the gripe is with seaguar Chuck.

Okay, Chris - I'm not gonna take the bait but I'll take a swipe at it...

Steve Cross at the Edge turned me on to it when it first showed up and I just got partial to it - it seemed limper and tied up better than the Seagar - IMHO. I think the Iron Man was using it too at the time, but don't know what he's using these days. It's personal preference and it sounds like you're pleased with it -

Like Roy said, It's like every thing else, if you have confidance in it and it works for you then go with it.

(BTW, Roy, I got a graduate course in snook fishing the Sanibel pier by the lighthouse from an old guy using jigs and the biggest Zebco I've ever seen on an old Harnell...

...)

Anyway, I've Googled the Varivas a number of times since the importer stopped bringing it in and was unable to find anything heavier than 20# - Steve was going to bring me some from his personal stash the last time I talked to him

Just checked my PM's and someone sent me a link last night, so apparently it's back stateside again...

A BIG thumbs up to my undisclosed source...