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07-14-2010, 07:27 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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Help me understand something
Question; 3 guys fishing, all using the same rods basically the same reels, all using Eels, same slow retrieve, casting in the same spot.
Why then does one guy catch 6/7 fish guy 2 catch 2 fish and guy 3 catch nothing?
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey 
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07-14-2010, 07:29 PM
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BuzzLuck
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Brockton
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tattobob was obviously guy #3!  |
 Given the diversity of the human species, there is no “normal” human genome sequence. We are all mutants.
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07-14-2010, 07:30 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
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No I was guy #2
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
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07-14-2010, 07:37 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Westport, MA.
Posts: 560
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i used to fish a lot on Toms boat(squidhoundjones). We would be into breaking fish, he would catch the bass' and i'd catch blue fish. I turned to him and asked him on a trip a long time ago, how come you're catching bass and i can't? All i'm catching are blue fish. He turns to me as he's on again and said, i'm targeting stripers, i don't want to catch blue fish  .
I went fishing with Rick and my cousin Gilly a while back, all throwing eels, same spot, all between a few feet of each other they caught bass and all i caught was a huge dogfish. 
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07-14-2010, 07:37 PM
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Great White Scup Hunter
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In the Corner...
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Guy # 1 was centered on a sweet spot and the other two guys were on the outer edge.. Possibly structure or some type of underwater disturbance that was good for holding bass just a few feet away from you guys,,,
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07-14-2010, 07:43 PM
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What was that!?!
Join Date: May 2005
Location: East Kingston, NH
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striper eau de toilette
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07-14-2010, 07:45 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Holyoke, Ma
Posts: 1,183
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you where just missing the sweet spot by a few feet thats all, should have crowded number 1 some more lol
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07-14-2010, 08:17 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Melrose MA
Posts: 587
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Scent or structure. Did one pump gas before or smoke cigs, bugspray? Could also be structure as described, underwater eddies and currents can be very specific and one could be pulling bait into a spot and just past it it pulls it out just as fast.
Also I know you said same reel same retrieve but were you all hooking the eel same way, same exact line which can get a bait down a little deeper?
In the end I think its luck or structure - but at least I offered a few other "scientific" thoughts.
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07-14-2010, 08:20 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: S. Easton
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07-14-2010, 09:01 PM
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Pete K.
Join Date: Jun 2007
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theres slow retrieve with eels, and then there's SLOWER... Also, I have seen some guys cast an eel, and start their slow retrieve almost immediately, without waiting until the eel sinks or swims to the bottom first... their retrieve is in the mid-upper column without even realizing it...
Or its just luck. every dog has his day
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07-14-2010, 09:54 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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guy 1 is definately set up in the sweet spot after some current sweeping by some rocks, guy 2 smokes, guy 3 is too far away from sweet spot where the bass are set up
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07-14-2010, 10:05 PM
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Marshfield, MA
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you will never know...don't even try and figure it out....quit smoking and cast closer to the guy getting all the good fish  |
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07-14-2010, 10:20 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by good2hook
i used to fish a lot on Toms boat(squidhoundjones). We would be into breaking fish, he would catch the bass' and i'd catch blue fish. I turned to him and asked him on a trip a long time ago, how come you're catching bass and i can't? All i'm catching are blue fish. He turns to me as he's on again and said, i'm targeting stripers, i don't want to catch blue fish .
I went fishing with Rick and my cousin Gilly a while back, all throwing eels, same spot, all between a few feet of each other they caught bass and all i caught was a huge dogfish.
I feel your pain |
you fished your plugs too fast
you fished your eel too slow |
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07-15-2010, 03:53 AM
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Hydro Orientated Lures
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Brockton,Ma
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happens all the time at the canal ... one guy is set up better in the rip /structure .. the guy outside the rip might as well be home .
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07-15-2010, 04:58 AM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tattoobob
Question; 3 guys fishing, all using the same rods basically the same reels, all using Eels, same slow retrieve, casting in the same spot.
Why then does one guy catch 6/7 fish guy 2 catch 2 fish and guy 3 catch nothing?
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Silly question. Everyone knows what you catch reflects the size of your genitalia. In this case guy # 3 has obviously been married longer than the others,................... and is probably from Franklin to boot. |
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07-15-2010, 08:00 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Newport, RI
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Only thing to do in that situation is roll up behind guy#1 and cast over his back and make him feel uncomfortable until he moves.
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07-15-2010, 08:27 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kingston, Ma
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This scenario has a scientific name, it is called" Gettin' Dan'd".......
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07-15-2010, 08:28 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Reading Mass/Newburyport/merrimack river
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There is alot of fire in the water right now, and to be consistanly sucessfull, you must adapt the percieved way you fish....leader size matters, line size matters... and as others have said... retrieve matters... everything is not always as it seems... size of the eel matters as well, a slower, pause and retrieve has been outfishing conventional methods, half dead eels ( beat silly) are outfishing lively ones, most strikes are barely perceptible, in most cases a controlled drift is best, almost like nymph fishing for trout....
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A good run is better than a bad stand!
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07-15-2010, 08:29 AM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Georgetown MA
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Easy Fix....fish alone  |
"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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07-15-2010, 08:45 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by numbskull
Silly question. Everyone knows what you catch reflects the size of your genitalia. In this case guy # 3 has obviously been married longer than the others,................... and is probably from Franklin to boot.
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Now, I just moved to Franklin last week. Does that mean I have to become exclusively an eel fisherman? |
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07-15-2010, 08:47 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2004
Location: South of Boston
Posts: 2,605
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Now, I just moved to Franklin last week. Does that mean I have to become exclusively an eel fisherman?
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Nope, but you should contemplate pissing your wetsuit. |
The charm of fishing is that it is the pursuit of what is elusive but attainable, a perpetual series of occasions for hope. ~John Buchan
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07-15-2010, 09:05 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Kingston, Ma
Posts: 2,294
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Now, I just moved to Franklin last week. Does that mean I have to become exclusively an eel fisherman?
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If you wanna catch fish, move out......
Tbag moved....He's have a banner year slammin fish.....
Mike stayed.......Couldn't catch a cold......
RUN. |
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07-15-2010, 09:19 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: People's Republic
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ivanputski
theres slow retrieve with eels, and then there's SLOWER... Also, I have seen some guys cast an eel, and start their slow retrieve almost immediately, without waiting until the eel sinks or swims to the bottom first... their retrieve is in the mid-upper column without even realizing it...
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Completely agree. |
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07-15-2010, 09:30 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Now, I just moved to Franklin last week. Does that mean I have to become exclusively an eel fisherman?
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No, but I need a new bitch to wake me up at midnight and take me surf fishing a couple times a week. Since TO moved away last fall my fishing career has become a steaming turd.
Fill out an online application and get it to me asap...so far there's no waiting list and I'll waive the fee.... |
It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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07-15-2010, 09:51 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bronko
Nope, but you should contemplate pissing your wetsuit.
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Too late, I already do.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Back Beach
No, but I need a new bitch to wake me up at midnight and take me surf fishing a couple times a week. Since TO moved away last fall my fishing career has become a steaming turd.
Fill out an online application and get it to me asap...so far there's no waiting list and I'll waive the fee....
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Bob (Makai) speaks highly of you, so I'll consider it. |
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07-15-2010, 10:08 AM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyD
Too late, I already do.
Bob (Makai) speaks highly of you, so I'll consider it.
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Bob's the man... need to lower yourself by associating with a clod like me when you already have Bob in your corner. |
It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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07-15-2010, 10:15 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hyde Park, MA
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If the 3 guys were set up along a shoreline (beach or canal) like this:
#1 #2 #3
and the fish / current was moving in this direction: ->
Then it may just be a case of #1 gets first crack at a fish, or small pod of fish. #2 gets a shot at the ones that weren't spooked by the one caught by #1, and #3 gets nothing because the rest of the pod was spooked by #2.
Then again, it could be just plain bad luck.  |
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07-15-2010, 10:18 AM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tattoobob
Question; 3 guys fishing, all using the same rods basically the same reels, all using Eels, same slow retrieve, casting in the same spot.
Why then does one guy catch 6/7 fish guy 2 catch 2 fish and guy 3 catch nothing?
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Obviously #3 is an unrepentant sinner.  |
May fortune favor the foolish....
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07-15-2010, 11:02 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Pembroke
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"Guy 3" shall be known as Andy from now on, its my bad karma rearing its ugly head.
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07-15-2010, 11:47 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tattoobob
Question; 3 guys fishing, all using the same rods basically the same reels, all using Eels, same slow retrieve, casting in the same spot.
Why then does one guy catch 6/7 fish guy 2 catch 2 fish and guy 3 catch nothing?
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Bob,
If guy #1 does this consistently I'd say he'll outfish others 9 out of 10 trips. He knows what he's doing and he's not telling.
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