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Old 04-24-2015, 04:30 PM   #1
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New SB Com regs

http://www.mass.gov/eea/docs/dfg/dmf...ng-24apr15.pdf
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Old 04-24-2015, 08:17 PM   #2
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Gunna be lots of left handed bass around this season
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Old 04-24-2015, 09:38 PM   #3
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Old 04-25-2015, 05:45 AM   #4
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What happens if you catch one on a com day? 😀
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Old 04-27-2015, 01:14 PM   #5
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Will be interesting to see the results, will there be dead floaters from higrading too.

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Old 04-27-2015, 01:59 PM   #6
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If fishing on non-comm days aren't you only permitted to keep 1 bass? You wouldn't cut off fin of any C&R.

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Old 04-27-2015, 02:07 PM   #7
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Cutting off it's pec fin is a sure death sentence (so they claim) and everyone knows if you're high grading you rip them from stem to stern and they sink like a stone.
Floaters come from the quick over limit dump when the green cops show up

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Old 04-27-2015, 02:22 PM   #8
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If I read that correctly, you can still stockpile bass. Now you just have an added step before bringing them to the fish house, yes?

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Old 04-27-2015, 02:31 PM   #9
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I read it as the opposite TT - if you hold a commercial permit and take home a fish on a non-com day, you must cut the fin immediately, which automatically takes it out of the commercial system. What's stopping them from just not cutting the fin and doing the same stockpiling as before? nothing at all!
Will EP's be checking comm boats on non-comm days more now to make sure this rule is being followed? Doubtful.
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Old 04-27-2015, 02:32 PM   #10
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If you get caught with your so called "recreational" fish on a closed day. They better have their right pec fin completely removed.
Buyers will only be allowed to buy unmolested fish with both pec fins intact
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Old 04-27-2015, 02:38 PM   #11
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so charters that also have comm licenses will have to cut off fins of their clients' catches too I suppose, although there is no mention of that..
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Old 04-27-2015, 02:52 PM   #12
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If it's a closed day then yes. Although you are also allowed to just filet them on the spot.
If it's an open commercial day then you are allowed to sell them.
therefore double dipping as they say
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Old 04-27-2015, 04:50 PM   #13
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Like I said before with such limited enforcement many will still partake in the stacking of fish and just hope they do not get caught. Worth the risk to many I am sure. They could have you cutting All kinds of parts off but I feel it will not deter the chronic cheater one bit. I just hope the consequences are sever, like loss of license, for stackers or any sort of cheating in that fishery then maybe people will think twice.
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Old 04-27-2015, 05:07 PM   #14
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The way it's written, it does not apply to recs harvesting their 1 fish. If dealers are prevented from buying the fish missing a fin, why not just make it across the board for all recreationally harvested fish?

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Old 04-27-2015, 05:36 PM   #15
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commercial striped bass fishermen recreationally fishing on a closed commercial
fishing day must remove the entire right pectoral fin of any striped bass 34”

And how does one enforce this ? how do you identify a comm Guy from a rec Guy on a non comm day?? seems this Idea was not Brainstormed enough
or very poorly explained ... just re read part of it now i get it!!!! they want Rec guys to know the Comm guys schedule to aid enforcement ??? buy cutting the fin of a fish I had no intention of selling in the 1st place.. maybe comm guys should be provided tags for the season like for deer but are sealed and when open they color change beyond 15 hrs a color for each comm day with a fixed amount in a package to reflect boat or shore Comm

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Old 04-27-2015, 06:19 PM   #16
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They made up this law so that they can say they are doing something about stockpiling. when in fact they can't in force it but at least they thought about it.👌😉
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Old 04-27-2015, 06:29 PM   #17
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The greenies don't leave their lairs unless forced or embarassed into leaving. So news regs are just non enforced BS.
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Old 04-27-2015, 06:42 PM   #18
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All it will do is keep the honest people honest. Good they are trying but a futile endeavor.
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Old 04-27-2015, 07:08 PM   #19
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The solution is to just let everyone sell them
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Old 04-27-2015, 07:34 PM   #20
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Pretend they're cod.
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Old 04-28-2015, 05:51 AM   #21
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i wonder why they don't require commercial license numbers to be shown on the boats hull or other visable areas on the boat.during the season..it sure would make enforcement a little easier.
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They are after the repeated offenders.
They pretty much know where the hot bite is. It's not too hard to figure out where the majority of the fish are coming from.
If a boat is fishing the hot spot the day before or the night before, those guys are just asking to get boarded. If there aren't any commercial permit holders on board, or the boat doesn't hold a permit, then it will be a quick boarding. If your buddy your fishing with holds a commercial permit on his boat, You better have those fins clipped.
The fine for each cod is $750.00 I'm not sure what the bass fine is?

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Old 04-28-2015, 06:31 AM   #23
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i wonder why they don't require commercial license numbers to be shown on the boats hull or other visable areas on the boat.during the season..it sure would make enforcement a little easier.
According to the coast guard, while you are commercially fishing, you are supposed to follow the rules for commercial fishing vessels. Which means having the day shape of 2 apex cones. Most guys have 2 little cones on there antenna and if you didn't know what you're looking for you would never notice.

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Old 04-28-2015, 06:41 AM   #24
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buy cutting the fin of a fish I had no intention of selling in the 1st place..
This is not a recreational rule. This does not apply to any recreational fisherman.
You do not have to clip any fins off any fish Unless Your buddy you took out with you holds a commercial permit

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Old 04-28-2015, 07:22 AM   #25
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i wonder why they don't require commercial license numbers to be shown on the boats hull or other visable areas on the boat.during the season..it sure would make enforcement a little easier.
How about the commercial shore guys? Do you make them wear an orange suit or something?
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Exactly. I did not even use my boat last year. Had pretty decent season just from shore. Didn't need the boating hassle but saw the rampant exploitation of that rule every non comm day and the authorities were no where to be seen. It was obvious where this was happening and in broad daylight. After dark it gets even harder to enforce. I also fished a certain beach from shore and starting at dusk there were as many as 20 boats already out there pounding the fish well before the 12 o'clock hour started. Took the cops a good 2 weeks to figure that one out. Sorry but I have no confidence in the implementation of this rule. Hope I am wrong. BTW I did get stopped by a environmental cop on shore with 4 fish on a comm day and I applauded him for the search. Someone dropped a dime on me. Good for them
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In RI we need to get a license / on top of that , if your going to use a boat then you have to pay a additional fee to have the boat declared a commercial vessel & have the commercial stickers on the hull /. It doesn,t matter if there are 5 guys fishing in a boat & they all have licenses / But if the boat isn,t declared with the sticker /you screwed also the boat limit in RI is 5 fish it doesn,t matter how many anglers on board or how many have licenses .you need it @ least one license & the boat registered ..

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