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10-20-2019, 07:16 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,418
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Vineyard Derby Results
Wow! Juniors took down 3 of 8 categories! Anyone hear who got the lucky keys?
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10-20-2019, 07:48 PM
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Oblivious // Grunt, Grunt Master
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: over the hill
Posts: 6,682
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A 12 yo girl won the car.
My friend and fishing partner "won" the C&R division for striped bass with a 38" fish he caught on 9/16. That it stood for an entire month is a very discouraging testimony to the state of our fishery.....and the people who participate in it.
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10-21-2019, 07:36 PM
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surfwalker
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 388
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Quote from Ted Willaims:
"I do not like fishing tournaments-- not because of what they do to the fish, but what they do to the fisherman".
Specific to the Derby:
1. Eliminate the big sponsors, and the big sponsor prizes.
2. Make a statement to eliminate striped bass from next year's Derby altogether. Such recognition and action by the MV Derby Committee would have impact that the striped bass fishery is valuable way beyond derby level, and the fishery is in trouble.
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10-22-2019, 04:22 AM
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Uncle Remus
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Lakeville Ma.
Posts: 14,773
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Congrats to Art.
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10-22-2019, 06:44 AM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
Posts: 6,588
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here's a prime example.
Derby results thread....second post is about the state of our fishery
3rd post is about banning bass from tournaments.
This is where s-b. com is today
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10-22-2019, 06:56 AM
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Certifiable Intertidal Anguiologist
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Somewhere between OOB & west of Watch Hill
Posts: 35,270
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And there is the dilemma
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~Fix the Bait~ ~Pogies Forever~
Striped Bass Fishing - All Stripers
Kobayashi Maru Election - there is no way to win.
Apocalypse is Coming:
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10-22-2019, 06:59 AM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
Posts: 6,588
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start a new forum. "The state of our fishery" and let em have at it in there.
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10-22-2019, 07:05 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
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These are folks who are passionate about fishing for striped bass. They are just like you. They wouldn’t be saying anything if the fishing were as good as last year. Or five years ago.or ten years ago,or even 20 years ago. They are so dumb that they wait all winter long dreaming of a tight line with stripes on the end. They have been fishing for them longer than some of these high hookers like ff have been alive. But let’s dismiss their concerns and call the fishery great and call them whiners for being discouraged at the direction the fishery is headed. I believe there will be a moment when we ALL will understand their concerns but the damage will be done. This is no fault of the commercial angler at all. It is simply mismanagement and running a species some old guys love to catch into the ground.
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10-22-2019, 07:19 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,823
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Dangles
These are folks who are passionate about fishing for striped bass. They are just like you. They wouldn’t be saying anything if the fishing were as good as last year. Or five years ago.or ten years ago,or even 20 years ago. They are so dumb that they wait all winter long dreaming of a tight line with stripes on the end. They have been fishing for them longer than some of these high hookers like ff have been alive. But let’s dismiss their concerns and call the fishery great and call them whiners for being discouraged at the direction the fishery is headed. I believe there will be a moment when we ALL will understand their concerns but the damage will be done. This is no fault of the commercial angler at all. It is simply mismanagement and running a species some old guys love to catch into the ground.
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Great thoughts Chris and I agree. I also agree with Clammer that the Comms are not the problem, although if you gave the species Game Fish Status, that point would be moot.
The much bigger problem is the carnage that has taken place at the Canal, the SW Ledge off the Block, to say nothing about what happened in the Mid-Atlantic tier of states.
If you want to stick your head in the sand and say there is no problem you also believe in the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus.
I'm not preaching doom and gloom. I am saying that if the current state of affairs for quota, kill rates etc. is maintain across the entire ecosystem, from Maine to NC, there will be no Stripers left in 10 years
Not doom and gloom, FACT!
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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10-22-2019, 07:14 AM
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"Fishbucket"
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Bahston Hahbah
Posts: 6,588
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Im not dismissing anyones concerns, just sick and tired of reading about it on everyyyy friggin thread.!
someone could ask a question about 3" storm shad and the post would turn into a barb smashing and how you shouldn't even be targeting schoolies.and the stae of our resource.
this is like arguing about climate change. never ending!
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10-22-2019, 07:36 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 8,718
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thefishingfreak
Im not dismissing anyones concerns, just sick and tired of reading about it on everyyyy friggin thread.!
someone could ask a question about 3" storm shad and the post would turn into a barb smashing and how you shouldn't even be targeting schoolies.and the stae of our resource.
this is like arguing about climate change. never ending!
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Go to the boat forum and read about the idiot trying to catch tuna with an 8000.
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PRO CHOICE REPUBLICAN
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10-22-2019, 11:42 AM
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Too old to give a....
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2,505
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What climate change ?
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10-22-2019, 09:14 PM
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#13
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 1,418
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Well congratulations to her! That is just awesome! And she caught her bluefish on the last day! I was rooting for Dylan Kadison to hold but it's nice to see a junior win. Dylan will win this eventually I'm sure.
The year I turned a key I was up against 12 year old Molly Fisher and even part of me was rooting for her to win. "The moans could be heard to Menemsha" I think was the quote in the Vineyard Times after the awards.
Who won the boat?
Congrats to all those who had a chance to go over and even wet a line. It's such a fun event for a great cause. I really miss it. Gonna try to get over next year with my 7 year old for a long weekend.
Derby Leaders
74th Derby (2019)
Bluefish - Boat
Aubrey Warburton
20.19 lbs.
Bluefish - Shore
Robert Bottary
12.17 lbs.
Bass - Boat
Mason Warburton
37.58 lbs.
Bass - Shore
Clinton A. Fisher
34.42 lbs.
Bonito - Boat
Greg G. Clark
11.62 lbs.
Bonito - Shore
Lewis C. Colby
6.43 lbs.
Albacore - Boat
Westley L. Wlodyka
12.96 lbs.
Albacore - Shore
Shawn A. Emin
12.13 lbs.
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