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		|  07-28-2022, 03:00 PM | #1 |  
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		|  07-28-2022, 06:01 PM | #2 |  
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				 | Many Americans see inflation for what it is cyclical and not caused by a political party 
 And they see taking away peoples rights as wrong. And  understand it because of a political party
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  Many Americans see inflation for what it is cyclical and not caused by a political party 
 And they see taking away peoples rights as wrong. And  understand it because of a political party
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 |  if what you say about inflation was true, polling before Roe would have been very different.  
 
you don’t think government spending made it worse?  increased supply doesn’t decrease price?
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				 | JD Vance said women who are beaten by their husbands should stay married to them.
 JD Vance said a 10 year old girl who was raped should be forced to give birth
 
 JD Vance said Married Gay people should have their marriages stripped away
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  if what you say about inflation was true, polling before Roe would have been very different.  
 you don’t think government spending made it worse?
 
 increased supply doesn’t decrease price?
 
 
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		|  07-29-2022, 05:35 AM | #6 |  
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					Originally Posted by scottw  apparently the answer to your questions is JD Vance or something... |  actually, Biden answered my question yesterday, his plan to print and spend $600 billion on wind turbines, is called the “Inflation Reduction Act”, so prices will revert back to ore inflation levels in no time. 
 
Their willingness to avoid answering questions and changing the subject, and pretend that we don’t known hayes doing it, is something.  They can’t admit the right could have a single valid point on anything, ever.
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  JD Vance said women who are beaten by their husbands should stay married to them.
 JD Vance said a 10 year old girl who was raped should be forced to give birth
 
 JD Vance said Married Gay people should have their marriages stripped away
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  if what you say about inflation was true, polling before Roe would have been very different.  
 you don’t think government spending made it worse?  increased supply doesn’t decrease price?
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 |  Don’t tell me corporations have no choice but to raise prices.
 
Corporate profits are at a 70-year high.
 
Stock buybacks are expected to reach $1,000,000,000,000 this year.
 
Corporations are doing just fine. Regular people are not.
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  Google is availablePosted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  i asked, you declined, so let’s  assume you made it up.  again.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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		|  07-29-2022, 06:35 AM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  Don’t tell me corporations have no choice but to raise prices.
 Corporate profits are at a 70-year high.
 
 Stock buybacks are expected to reach $1,000,000,000,000 this year.
 
 Corporations are doing just fine. Regular people are not.
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 |  wholesale inflation was up 11% for june over prior year.  lots of companies don’t have profit margins nearly high enough to absorb that. 
 
So as usual, you’re wrong, companies have no choice.  Doesn’t mean some arent gouging.  but costs of labor and raw goods are way up.  that’s going to lead to higher prices in the real world. 
 
also, the feds printed a lot of checks and handed them out to people. That obviously was a catalyst in consumer spending. 
 
if your opposed to corporate profits pete, you should 
be angry that both trump and biden mailed big fat checks to lots of people who weren’t impacted one cent by covid.
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		|  07-29-2022, 07:27 AM | #13 |  
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				 | Republicans: WE HATE INFLATION!
 Democrats: Here’s a bill reducing inflation.
 
 Republicans: If you pass this, we’re going to block funding for American troops suffering from toxic exposure and funding to bring the semiconductor chip industry back to the US to compete with China.
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		|  07-29-2022, 07:40 AM | #14 |  
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				 | You guys are political extremists.... And the MO of today's politics and politicians puts them all in the same boat with divorce lawyers; win at all costs AND destroy the other party while doing so... (sounds like a Russian battle plan, no?)  Extremism is ugly, on all sides. Look in a mirror much?
 JD Vance looks to be a POS. Maybe Ohio takes a page from Massachusetts' gubernatorial history and flip their Senate race by electing a conservative wearing a Democratic hat...
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		|  07-29-2022, 07:49 AM | #15 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  i asked, you declined, so let’s  assume you made it up.  again.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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I usually look up what you and others post before a response.
 
It just makes sense. 
 
But that story you won’t find on fox or newsmax   I looked 
 
And like a true conservatives you jump right to calling it made up a lie or a hoax ..  of bias media 
 
How can one party say and do so much . Then when it’s replayed right in front of them. The deny it. With a straight face?
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  Republicans: WE HATE INFLATION!
 Democrats: Here’s a bill reducing inflation.
 
 Republicans: If you pass this, we’re going to block funding for American troops suffering from toxic exposure and funding to bring the semiconductor chip industry back to the US to compete with China.
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 |  how does printing 600 billion more, help 
inflation?
 
pete, do you understand that naming a bill as anti inflation, doesn’t necessarily mean it will reduce inflation?
 
how does printing 600 billion more dollars help to lower inflation?
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					Originally Posted by nightfighter  You guys are political extremists.... And the MO of today's politics and politicians puts them all in the same boat with divorce lawyers; win at all costs AND destroy the other party while doing so... (sounds like a Russian battle plan, no?)  Extremism is ugly, on all sides. Look in a mirror much?
 JD Vance looks to be a POS. Maybe Ohio takes a page from Massachusetts' gubernatorial history and flip their Senate race by electing a conservative wearing a Democratic hat...
 |  What’s sad is national republicans have forgotten that Charlie Baker is a republican who only looks like a democrat  because they’ve gone so far Right 
 
In my working  adult life 5 out of 6 Ma governors were Republicans
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		|  07-29-2022, 08:16 AM | #18 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  i asked, you declined, so let’s  assume you made it up.  again.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
 |  I can’t understand why it’s so difficult for them to just provide you with the info. Here ya go, full quote. Stupid thing to say if you ask me
 
"one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace" was convincing people in "unhappy" or "even violent" marriages that getting divorced would "make people happier in the long term,"
 
"Maybe it worked out for the moms and dads, though I'm skeptical. But it really didn't work out for the kids of those marriages," Vance said, according to Vice. "And that's what I think all of us should be honest about, is we've run this experiment in real time. And what we have is a lot of very, very real family dysfunction that's making our kids unhappy."
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					Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman  I can’t understand why it’s so difficult for them to just provide you with the info. Here ya go, full quote. Stupid thing to say if you ask me
 "one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace" was convincing people in "unhappy" or "even violent" marriages that getting divorced would "make people happier in the long term,"
 
 "Maybe it worked out for the moms and dads, though I'm skeptical. But it really didn't work out for the kids of those marriages," Vance said, according to Vice. "And that's what I think all of us should be honest about, is we've run this experiment in real time. And what we have is a lot of very, very real family dysfunction that's making our kids unhappy."
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So, NOWHERE in there is he saying battered wives should stay in the relationship and keep getting beaten.  What Vance is saying, is that the farther away we get from traditional strong families, the worse off our kids are.
 
He's saying kids need more love and less self-centeredness.  And Pete hates that message, which tells you everything you need to know.
 
And I don't like JD Vance.  But he's right.  He's also right about it tracing back to the sexual revolution of the 1960s, and a lot of good things came from that, but also a lot of bad things.
 
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  wholesale inflation was up 11% for june over prior year.  lots of companies don’t have profit margins nearly high enough to absorb that. 
 So as usual, you’re wrong, companies have no choice.  Doesn’t mean some arent gouging.  but costs of labor and raw goods are way up.  that’s going to lead to higher prices in the real world.
 
 also, the feds printed a lot of checks and handed them out to people. That obviously was a catalyst in consumer spending.
 
 if your opposed to corporate profits pete, you should
 be angry that both trump and biden mailed big fat checks to lots of people who weren’t impacted one cent by covid.
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That’s the total profits Exxon Mobil raked in, in just one quarter this year.
 
The fossil fuel industry doesn’t need another subsidy.
 
Working families do.
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  Thnaks.
 So, NOWHERE in there is he saying battered wives should stay in the relationship and keep getting beaten.  What Vance is saying, is that the farther away we get from traditional strong families, the worse off our kids are.
 
 He's saying kids need more love and less self-centeredness.  And Pete hates that message, which tells you everything you need to know.
 
 And I don't like JD Vance.  But he's right.  He's also right about it tracing back to the sexual revolution of the 1960s, and a lot of good things came from that, but also a lot of bad things.
 
 50% divorce rates aren't good for kids.
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JD Vance said Married Gay people should have their marriages stripped away
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					Originally Posted by Pete F.  $18,000,000,000 
 That’s the total profits Exxon Mobil raked in, in just one quarter this year.
 
 The fossil fuel industry doesn’t need another subsidy.
 
 Working families do.
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					Originally Posted by Jim in CT  working families don’t need subsidies. they need less intrusion, which is nowhere near the same thing as a subsidy.Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
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 So, NOWHERE in there is he saying battered wives should stay in the relationship and keep getting beaten.  What Vance is saying, is that the farther away we get from traditional strong families, the worse off our kids are.
 
 He's saying kids need more love and less self-centeredness.  And Pete hates that message, which tells you everything you need to know.
 
 And I don't like JD Vance.  But he's right.  He's also right about it tracing back to the sexual revolution of the 1960s, and a lot of good things came from that, but also a lot of bad things.
 
 50% divorce rates aren't good for kids.
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its funny watching  .  How the things you take literally  if they are spoken By a Democrat . and your off to the races 
 
Compared to seeing every Republican comment as miss understood or hyperbole
 
and you guys run right to the usual excuses  and Declare because Vance didn't say the words verbatim ..   Readers are to stupid or Bias to assign meaning ...    But you assigned his meaning   As if you could read vances Mind and tell us what he was saying then tell us you don't like him then tell us he's right ... because he spews the usual christian nonsense 
 
FYI Divorce in America has been falling fast in recent years, and it just hit a record low in 2019. For every 1,000 marriages in the last year, only 14.9 ended in divorce, according to the newly released American Community Survey data from the Census Bureau. This is the lowest rate we have seen in 50 years.
 
Atheists and Catholics Tied for Lowest Divorce Rates,  how can that be then come Born-Again Christian: 27% 
Jewish: 30% 
Muslim: 31% 
Protestant: 34%
 
States With Highest Divorce Rates 
State	Divorce Rate (per 1,000 residents)	2016 Voting Record 
Alaska	4.1	Republican 
Arkansas	4.8	Republican 
Nevada	4.6	Democrat 
Oklahoma	4.4	Republican 
Wyoming	4.1	Republican
 
JD vance is another Grifter His flips just show that to be the case and the Gullible GOP  can't see it  
 
During the 2016 election, Vance was critical of Republican Party nominee Donald Trump. In a USA Today column in February 2016, Vance wrote "Trump's actual policy proposals, such as they are, range from immoral to absurd."[50] In a July 2016 column for The Atlantic, Vance alluded to Karl Marx by calling Trump and his campaign promises the "opioid of the masses."[51] In October 2016, he described Trump as "reprehensible" in a post on Twitter[52] and described himself as a "never-Trump guy."[53] He also stated his intentions to vote for independent presidential candidate Evan McMullin.[52]
 
Vance changed his rhetoric after announcing his candidacy for the United States Senate in July 2021. He deleted posts from his Twitter account that were critical of Trump and apologized for calling Trump "reprehensible."[54] Reversing his earlier statements on Trump, Vance said that he now thought Trump was a good president and expressed regret about his statements during the 2016 election.[52] Vance had visited Mar-a-Lago to meet with Trump and Peter Thiel ahead of an official announcement.[35]
 
Whereas Vance had once admonished Trump for demonizing immigrants, Vance himself has repeatedly called illegal immigration "dirty".[55][56] In October 2021, Vance reiterated Trump's claims of election fraud, falsely stating that Trump lost the 2020 presidential election because of widespread voter fraud.[57] |  
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 FYI Divorce in America has been falling fast in recent years, and it just hit a record low in 2019.
 
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				 | wdmso, you said that for every 1,000 marriages last year, only 14.9% ended in divorce. 
what does that mean?  you’re only looking at marriages that are less than a year old?
 
this article says 50%.  i hope it’s lower. 
https://hernorm.com/marriage-and-divorce-statistics/
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				 | Odd no comment on the red states leading the nation in divorce rates. 
 All the article did was debunk Vance’s conclusion and implication that conservatives religious family values lead the way .. when they are  no better at marriage then anyone else
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					Originally Posted by scottw  probably has nothing to do with record low marriage rates...  |  And that changes what exactly?
 
It’s odd this same argument didn’t work with pandemic record low gas prices ..  that was twisted into Trumps doing?
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					Originally Posted by wdmso  Odd no comment on the red states leading the nation in divorce rates. 
 All the article did was debunk Vance’s conclusion and implication that conservatives religious family values lead the way .. when they are  no better at marriage then anyone else
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depends on who’s getting divorced in those states wayne. every red state has plenty of liberals living there. 
 
finally, even if way more republicans cheat on their wives and get divorced, that doesn’t mean they’re wrong when they say good families are good for 
kids. 
 
do you feel the need to pattern your behavior after others?  i never said republicans are better role models. but i think they have vastly superior ideas. 
 
democrats arent hypocrites?  ap 
gore and john kerry are good stewards of the environment?  if the greenies are right,  and we all did what john kerry is doing, then ND would be exporting pineapples
 
if comeone has a screwed up personal life, why does that mean they can’t have good public policy ideas?  also, it seems like you never, ever point out when liberals misbehave. why is that?
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