huge swing in midterm polling on abortion

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

i asked, you declined, so let’s assume you made it up. again.
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I can’t understand why it’s so difficult for them to just provide you with the info. Here ya go, full quote. Stupid thing to say if you ask me

"one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace" was convincing people in "unhappy" or "even violent" marriages that getting divorced would "make people happier in the long term,"

"Maybe it worked out for the moms and dads, though I'm skeptical. But it really didn't work out for the kids of those marriages," Vance said, according to Vice. "And that's what I think all of us should be honest about, is we've run this experiment in real time. And what we have is a lot of very, very real family dysfunction that's making our kids unhappy."
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

I can’t understand why it’s so difficult for them to just provide you with the info. Here ya go, full quote. Stupid thing to say if you ask me

"one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace" was convincing people in "unhappy" or "even violent" marriages that getting divorced would "make people happier in the long term,"

"Maybe it worked out for the moms and dads, though I'm skeptical. But it really didn't work out for the kids of those marriages," Vance said, according to Vice. "And that's what I think all of us should be honest about, is we've run this experiment in real time. And what we have is a lot of very, very real family dysfunction that's making our kids unhappy."
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Thnaks.

So, NOWHERE in there is he saying battered wives should stay in the relationship and keep getting beaten. What Vance is saying, is that the farther away we get from traditional strong families, the worse off our kids are.

He's saying kids need more love and less self-centeredness. And Pete hates that message, which tells you everything you need to know.

And I don't like JD Vance. But he's right. He's also right about it tracing back to the sexual revolution of the 1960s, and a lot of good things came from that, but also a lot of bad things.

50% divorce rates aren't good for kids.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Thnaks.

So, NOWHERE in there is he saying battered wives should stay in the relationship and keep getting beaten. What Vance is saying, is that the farther away we get from traditional strong families, the worse off our kids are.

He's saying kids need more love and less self-centeredness. And Pete hates that message, which tells you everything you need to know.

And I don't like JD Vance. But he's right. He's also right about it tracing back to the sexual revolution of the 1960s, and a lot of good things came from that, but also a lot of bad things.

50% divorce rates aren't good for kids.

JD Vance said a 10 year old girl who was raped should be forced to give birth

JD Vance said Married Gay people should have their marriages stripped away
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Thnaks.

So, NOWHERE in there is he saying battered wives should stay in the relationship and keep getting beaten. What Vance is saying, is that the farther away we get from traditional strong families, the worse off our kids are.

He's saying kids need more love and less self-centeredness. And Pete hates that message, which tells you everything you need to know.

And I don't like JD Vance. But he's right. He's also right about it tracing back to the sexual revolution of the 1960s, and a lot of good things came from that, but also a lot of bad things.

50% divorce rates aren't good for kids.

its funny watching . How the things you take literally if they are spoken By a Democrat . and your off to the races

Compared to seeing every Republican comment as miss understood or hyperbole

and you guys run right to the usual excuses and Declare because Vance didn't say the words verbatim .. Readers are to stupid or Bias to assign meaning ... But you assigned his meaning As if you could read vances Mind and tell us what he was saying then tell us you don't like him then tell us he's right ... because he spews the usual christian nonsense


FYI Divorce in America has been falling fast in recent years, and it just hit a record low in 2019. For every 1,000 marriages in the last year, only 14.9 ended in divorce, according to the newly released American Community Survey data from the Census Bureau. This is the lowest rate we have seen in 50 years.

Atheists and Catholics Tied for Lowest Divorce Rates, how can that be then come Born-Again Christian: 27%
Jewish: 30%
Muslim: 31%
Protestant: 34%

States With Highest Divorce Rates
State Divorce Rate (per 1,000 residents) 2016 Voting Record
Alaska 4.1 Republican
Arkansas 4.8 Republican
Nevada 4.6 Democrat
Oklahoma 4.4 Republican
Wyoming 4.1 Republican


JD vance is another Grifter His flips just show that to be the case and the Gullible GOP can't see it


During the 2016 election, Vance was critical of Republican Party nominee Donald Trump. In a USA Today column in February 2016, Vance wrote "Trump's actual policy proposals, such as they are, range from immoral to absurd."[50] In a July 2016 column for The Atlantic, Vance alluded to Karl Marx by calling Trump and his campaign promises the "opioid of the masses."[51] In October 2016, he described Trump as "reprehensible" in a post on Twitter[52] and described himself as a "never-Trump guy."[53] He also stated his intentions to vote for independent presidential candidate Evan McMullin.[52]

Vance changed his rhetoric after announcing his candidacy for the United States Senate in July 2021. He deleted posts from his Twitter account that were critical of Trump and apologized for calling Trump "reprehensible."[54] Reversing his earlier statements on Trump, Vance said that he now thought Trump was a good president and expressed regret about his statements during the 2016 election.[52] Vance had visited Mar-a-Lago to meet with Trump and Peter Thiel ahead of an official announcement.[35]

Whereas Vance had once admonished Trump for demonizing immigrants, Vance himself has repeatedly called illegal immigration "dirty".[55][56] In October 2021, Vance reiterated Trump's claims of election fraud, falsely stating that Trump lost the 2020 presidential election because of widespread voter fraud.[57]

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

FYI Divorce in America has been falling fast in recent years, and it just hit a record low in 2019.

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probably has nothing to do with record low marriage rates...

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

probably has nothing to do with record low marriage rates...

And that changes what exactly?

It’s odd this same argument didn’t work with pandemic record low gas prices .. that was twisted into Trumps doing?
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