So did any of you buy a new to you Contender from NY recently? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

JohnR · 03-30-2010, 09:28 PM

So did any of you buy a new to you Contender from NY recently? If so shout out or send me a PM. Nice ride. See it everyday now...

CowHunter · 03-30-2010, 11:01 PM

That will be Erich... Not sure he is on the boards here... We discussed the boat, he picked it up last week... Bought it to fish the Striper Cup on Team Reel Deal! Got a sweet sponsorship deal....
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Sea Dangles · 03-31-2010, 09:28 AM

I fished on last years "angler of the year" contender and thought it rode like a beach ball.Even on a flat day it was up and down at cruising speed.Nice boats to fish out of though.

striperman36 · 03-31-2010, 09:31 AM

It's made in Port Salerno FL, its made for flat ass calm, pin the needles run to the gulf stream action. Sittin still though she acts nicely, rocks a little to much for me though. What do you expect with all those ponies on the back.

I'll take an OceanMaster 27 with a diesel anyday I could afford it.

Crafty Angler · 03-31-2010, 09:53 AM

I dunno, I was pretty impressed last year with the ride on my buddy's new 38' Fountain CC with the triple supercharged Merc 300's

Of course, 2+ tons of fuel for ballast when it's topped off helps - and cruising at 50 MPH seriously cuts the commute time from the dock to the Block

I was always amazed at how quiet it was - and how much throttle was still left even at 50...

striperman36 · 03-31-2010, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Crafty Angler

I dunno, I was pretty impressed last year with the ride on my buddy's new 38' Fountain CC with the triple supercharged Merc 300's

Of course, 2+ tons of fuel for ballast when it's topped off helps - and cruising at 50 MPH seriously cuts the commute time from the dock to the Block

I was always amazed at how quiet it was - and how much throttle was still left even at 50...

totally different boat. now if our wifes would only be quiet that long during an equivalent experience that would possibly last that long.

CowHunter · 03-31-2010, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Crafty Angler

I dunno, I was pretty impressed last year with the ride on my buddy's new 38' Fountain CC with the triple supercharged Merc 300's

Of course, 2+ tons of fuel for ballast when it's topped off helps - and cruising at 50 MPH seriously cuts the commute time from the dock to the Block

I was always amazed at how quiet it was - and how much throttle was still left even at 50...

I fished a 31 fountain for the first time this year, rough weather I couldnt believe the pounding for a 31, also was very wet. Those boats are made for Speed!!! Yellowfin Boats, definately a Fav of mine, but the $$$$

CowHunter · 03-31-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

I fished on last years "angler of the year" contender and thought it rode like a beach ball.Even on a flat day it was up and down at cruising speed.Nice boats to fish out of though.

If its riding like a beach ball He either put a 4stroke off the back, guys are standing by the leaning post, or he just really doesnt know how to run the boat. definately to much wieght in the stern area. If he hung a 4 stroke off a 21 she is going to be ass heavy.... That boats perfect power is a 200 HPDI. Boat is only 2300 lbs so it is going to be sensitive to wieght... Friends of Mine that hungs 4S off the back have to use alot of Tab, or even but wieght up front, anchor...
I loved my 21, Never Ever did I feel unsafe in it and I ran out in just about everything, never missed a commercial day, tourney cause of weather. Rarely did I ever cancel a charter. Its an awesome handling boat in rough weather. i looked forward to fishing 20 Knots Plus.... I did have two near sinkings, but that was my fault... Went bigger to save the back and joints some, and to make my charters a much more pleasure... My first motor on that 21 had 2000 hours, I had way, way more anchor / drift time on her... Definately miss that boat.... And I would not put a TTOP on that boat! I dont know of a better riding true 21 on the Market, that 24.5 degree dead rise is awesome.... No other boat has it in its class.

Sea Dangles · 03-31-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CowHunter

If its riding like a beach ball He either put a 4stroke off the back, guys are standing by the leaning post, or he just really doesnt know how to run the boat. definately to much wieght in the stern area. If he hung a 4 stroke off a 21 she is going to be ass heavy.... That boats perfect power is a 200 HPDI. Boat is only 2300 lbs so it is going to be sensitive to wieght... Friends of Mine that hungs 4S off the back have to use alot of Tab, or even but wieght up front, anchor...
I loved my 21, Never Ever did I feel unsafe in it and I ran out in just about everything, never missed a commercial day, tourney cause of weather. Rarely did I ever cancel a charter. Its an awesome handling boat in rough weather. i looked forward to fishing 20 Knots Plus.... I did have two near sinkings, but that was my fault... Went bigger to save the back and joints some, and to make my charters a much more pleasure... My first motor on that 21 had 2000 hours, I had way, way more anchor / drift time on her... Definately miss that boat.... And I would not put a TTOP on that boat! I dont know of a better riding true 21 on the Market, that 24.5 degree dead rise is awesome.... No other boat has it in its class.

The 21' contender is an awesome boat.Keith has a 23T and he knows how to run it as he fishes and charters quite a bit.Like I said,contender is a great boat to fish out of and a bargain too when you consider the features.Didn't your 21 have a 300 4 stroke?

CowHunter · 03-31-2010, 01:07 PM

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The 21' contender is an awesome boat.Keith has a 23T and he knows how to run it as he fishes and charters quite a bit.Like I said,contender is a great boat to fish out of and a bargain too when you consider the features.Didn't your 21 have a 300 4 stroke?

I didnt know you were talking about Kieth, I know he know what hes doing. Big difference in boats, every model runs different depending on the power options they were ORIGINALLY designed for... You sure it is the 23T?? Lori Marie is a 25 Open I thought for sure? What year is his boat and power? I know hes had the boat a while...I thought he had F250's on there. That boat was originally designed for 200 HPDIs... Reason I ask is they were hanging 4 strokes on the Pre 2006 models and it was to much wieght so they redesigned the 25 Open Hull in 06 to the New G2 Hull. 1300 lb motors is a lot of wieght back there. Throw another 385lbs of water in the livewell.. Or does he have the 23T with twin 200 HPDIs?? The Pre G2 hull was NOT designed for the additional wieght of the four strokes...I went with the 25 this year with the F250's. Still economical and easy to trailer. My 21 originally had a 200 HPDI, then I repowered with a 300HPDI, got a good price on it and the 200 was getting tired....

inTHERAPY · 03-31-2010, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CowHunter

If its riding like a beach ball He either put a 4stroke off the back, guys are standing by the leaning post, or he just really doesnt know how to run the boat. definately to much wieght in the stern area. If he hung a 4 stroke off a 21 she is going to be ass heavy.... That boats perfect power is a 200 HPDI. Boat is only 2300 lbs so it is going to be sensitive to wieght... Friends of Mine that hungs 4S off the back have to use alot of Tab, or even but wieght up front, anchor...
I loved my 21, Never Ever did I feel unsafe in it and I ran out in just about everything, never missed a commercial day, tourney cause of weather. Rarely did I ever cancel a charter. Its an awesome handling boat in rough weather. i looked forward to fishing 20 Knots Plus.... I did have two near sinkings, but that was my fault... Went bigger to save the back and joints some, and to make my charters a much more pleasure... My first motor on that 21 had 2000 hours, I had way, way more anchor / drift time on her... Definately miss that boat.... And I would not put a TTOP on that boat! I dont know of a better riding true 21 on the Market, that 24.5 degree dead rise is awesome.... No other boat has it in its class.

There's nothing like a 21 'tender in buzzards bay with gale conditions. A little bumby, official tough guy tattoo required, a little wet, dry suit and tanks......ahhh, what a day.

CowHunter · 03-31-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by inTHERAPY

There's nothing like a 21 'tender in buzzards bay with gale conditions. A little bumby, official tough guy tattoo required, a little wet, dry suit and tanks......ahhh, what a day.

Thats good times, call it "backTHERAPY"!!!

JohnR · 03-31-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by CowHunter

That will be Erich... Not sure he is on the boards here... We discussed the boat, he picked it up last week... Bought it to fish the Striper Cup on Team Reel Deal! Got a sweet sponsorship deal....
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Well, I love down the street from Erich. While most in the neighborhood are cleaning basements, he's cleaning his new ride right now.

keeperreaper · 03-31-2010, 03:40 PM

Tajons boat 25 World Cat will eat any 25 monohull around here in bad seas and tight chop.

CowHunter · 03-31-2010, 03:55 PM

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Tajons boat 25 World Cat will eat any 25 monohull around here in bad seas and tight chop.

Different Animal, different apps... My little 21 was efficient, 3-4MPG, easy to trailer,(I trailerd 15K miles a year), get in skinny water, great to get bait, launched it by myself 2,3,4 times a day at ramps that a bigger boat would never get into. Badd ASS Boat for an individual fisherman! Look at all the 21 contenders and 23 seacrafts in the NE... Good choice for individual commercial diehards! My boat paid for itself many times over... If I had no limits to boat price, Gas limits, Dockage, and so On I could find a monster Mono hull that can eat the 25 World Cat... For me its whats practical though... The cats are a bit of an eye sore ;-)

keeperreaper · 03-31-2010, 04:15 PM

Ken his boat draws less than the 21 contender, can be launched by one person, and last I checked fish don't care about looks of a boat. He also paid less than what a 21 contender goes for. Apples t oranges I guess.

Did you ever get the 200 hpdi back from Mike?

redlite · 03-31-2010, 04:23 PM

Went to the Block last year on a guys brand new 21' contender. We went out of Point J in seas that I wouldn't even be caught out in, never mind heading out into. That boat ran like a 40 footer. Dry, and comfortable, even in the 5 footers. I would by one in a heartbeat. Sweeeeeeet rides.

CowHunter · 03-31-2010, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by keeperreaper

Ken his boat draws less than the 21 contender, can be launched by one person, and last I checked fish don't care about looks of a boat. He also paid less than what a 21 contender goes for. Apples t oranges I guess.

Did you ever get the 200 hpdi back from Mike?

No Doubt they ride good, dont see many around out there... All of us Mono Hull owners joke about their looks! Yes fish dont care... I just talked to Mike the other day, how do you know him? He still has the motor...Im sure he'll tell you about some of the runs made in the 21... Him holding on for life in an 80 mile run up the chesapeke in 30 knot wind against tide! Hes got the Tuna Bug bad...It is apples to oranges.... FYI, I bought my 21 Contender brand new boat motor, trailer for 34K, sold it for 20K 7 years later with a repower that costed me 10K... I went down to NC with my buddy Rocco who bought a Brand new 2009 21 Contender,Boat motor trailer for 30K even, just had a 200 Opti on it... Lots of deals out there if you know where to look... What the new 25 world Cat go for???

keeperreaper · 03-31-2010, 06:10 PM

Mike is a good friend and lives about a mile from me. Yes lots of deals out there especially down south. 34k + 10 k for repower 7 years ago would have put you in the "ugly" boat no problem. With canyon range.........

CowHunter · 03-31-2010, 06:57 PM

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Mike is a good friend and lives about a mile from me. Yes lots of deals out there especially down south. 34k + 10 k for repower 7 years ago would have put you in the "ugly" boat no problem. With canyon range.........

Mike is a Tuna Junkie now!

The point is, my buddy bought a brand new one cheaper by about 12 percent 7 years later, more deals now. We all have to repower eventually or by something different. On a new 25 cat I would imagine 25-30 k just on motors and controls. If I ever start fishing the canyons I'm hoping it would be on a much bigger boat than I have now!
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Clammer · 03-31-2010, 07:08 PM

KEN ;

on that site .they are showing 4 grades of oil & the prices are right . which one should I order if I have a Yamaha 150 EFI saltwater series ???

thanks Mike

keeperreaper · 03-31-2010, 04:20 PM

As for HPDI yammies; the 200 is generally considered the best 200 hp engine ever built. Bulletproof.

jmac · 03-31-2010, 09:30 PM

Kenny-

remember the stories I told you about excursions made with Gary....basically why I decided to get my 21 Contender......and then some of the stuff in Vineyard/ Buzzards....

although my 21 Alcar was in stuff where I once was the only trailer at Padanaram.....thats another story though...Trapper will vouch for that trip.

CowHunter · 03-31-2010, 09:37 PM

[QUOTE=jmac;758895]Kenny-

remember the stories I told you about excursions made with Gary....basically why I decided to get my 21 Contender......and then some of the stuff in Vineyard/ Buzzards....

although my 21 Alcar was in stuff where I once was the only trailer at Padanaram.....thats another story though...Trapper will vouch for that trip.[/QUOTE

Made me a believer!
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Clammer · 03-31-2010, 10:28 PM

JMAC

I bet ya happy as S #$%^&* you retired from that job ...with the happenings of the last few days ;;;;

Clammer · 03-31-2010, 10:32 PM

thanks/I,ll order some now ><><><

CowHunter · 03-31-2010, 09:31 PM

The XLF formula should be fine...
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jmac · 03-31-2010, 10:45 PM

yeah, I talked to a guy from the Town-he said plant was functioning but there was more flow coming in than what plant had been designed for.....untreated sewerage was literally overflowing the tanks and running down the street into the cove...there really isn't anything that can be done at this point with the 3 plants on the Pawtuxet. All in all, my understanding is that 8 plants in the state were bypassing.... I'm hoping that all will be well by the time fish start comin in.
But then mike, U remember the 70's ....didn't know what kind of fish U had till U gaffed it...water was that bad back then. And all the pogies and bass U could ever wish for....and THAT water was REAL DIRTY up river....

So maybe all the nutrients that will be borne by this dilemma will sustain the food chain in ways that defy imagination...or i'm just "waxing poetic"......

Clammer · 04-01-2010, 12:06 AM

BACK -IN-THE-DAY

Raven · 04-01-2010, 06:03 AM

Nutrients.......

ahhh ha ha ha ... that's a great choice of words...

maybe there will be an Algae bloom sooner than later