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06-23-2010, 10:11 AM
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Formerly the_shocker
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: ricca
Posts: 730
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PP 65#
anyone find that this pound test digs in like the lighter pound pp causing problems with drag and snapping line off.
thinking of changing brands but still have a big spool of 65 pp left.
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06-23-2010, 10:20 AM
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Night Stalker
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: ............
Posts: 3,605
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Dude, lose the 65. Like I told you a year ago.  50 is fine. 65 is like cable and in the last location we fished together you want all the distance you can get.
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06-23-2010, 12:23 PM
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Respect your elvers
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: franklin ma
Posts: 3,368
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Never, ever had an issue with 65# PP...I love it. I use it strictly on my conventional setup.
I use 40# and 50# on my spinners.
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It's not the bait
At the end of your line
It's the fishing hole
Where all the fish is blind
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06-23-2010, 12:42 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Back Beach
Never, ever had an issue with 65# PP...I love it. I use it strictly on my conventional setup.
I use 40# and 50# on my spinners.
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same here, at least for bass. 50 gives much better casting performance. I do have 65 on one big spinner for tuna. Although I am thinking of stripping it off and going to 50 on that just for more capacity.
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06-23-2010, 01:09 PM
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Soggy Bottom Boy
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Billerica, Ma.
Posts: 7,260
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If 50 is spooled properly you won't have that problem, 65 is over kill IMO.
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Surfcasting Full Throttle
Don't judge me Monkey
Recreational Surfcaster 99.9% C&R
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06-23-2010, 04:59 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
Posts: 11,786
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NO PROBLEMS WITH 65 P/P
BUT I ALSO ONLY USE IT ON MY CONVENTIONALS .
I LIKE THE RED 30# FOR LIGHT TO MEDIUM SPINNING ><><<> 
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ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!
MIKE
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06-23-2010, 05:01 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 10,824
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Been using the 50# PP in yellow and I love it.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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06-23-2010, 06:25 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 114
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I USE 65 PP. I WANT TAKE A CHANCE AND LOSE FISH LIKE I DID LAST FALL. 60 LEADER. YOUR LINE IS DIGGING IN BECAUSE IT IS NOT TIGHT ON THE SPOOL. ONCE IT IS LOOSE, LIKE FISHING PENCILS, THEN LOOK AND SEE HOW LOSE IT IS ON THE SPOOL. THEN CHECK AFTER A JIG. YOU WILL SEE THE DIFFERENCE
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06-23-2010, 08:25 PM
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#9
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 260
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i spooled my VS250 w/ 65 PP this year.... not a fan. Caused me a lot of trouble one night on the south side of montauk.... perched on a rock nonetheless. My other reels have Suffix braid and I personally like it much better.
I'm considering giving fireline a try on my VS250.
I've been using braid since converting from mono, but i've heard good things about fireline... i might give it a go.
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06-23-2010, 08:37 PM
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Jiggin' Leper Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: 61° 30′ 0″ N, 23° 46′ 0″ E
Posts: 8,158
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hardbait
I USE 65 PP. I WANT TAKE A CHANCE AND LOSE FISH LIKE I DID LAST FALL. 60 LEADER. YOUR LINE IS DIGGING IN BECAUSE IT IS NOT TIGHT ON THE SPOOL. ONCE IT IS LOOSE, LIKE FISHING PENCILS, THEN LOOK AND SEE HOW LOSE IT IS ON THE SPOOL. THEN CHECK AFTER A JIG. YOU WILL SEE THE DIFFERENCE
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What he said (without all caps  ). If 65# braid is digging, it's not tight enough on the spool. You have to wind it on under heavy tension to start with. And if you're fishing lures that result in loose line, every so often make a few casts with a sinker or bucktail to get it tight again.
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Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools, because they have to say something.
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06-24-2010, 07:55 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: MA
Posts: 76
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50 LB POWER PRO
is ideal and more than strong enough for anything you want to fish for. I have it on my two VS 250's, my two Saragossa's and my Emblem Pro 5500. No issues at all with Power Pro 50 lb on any of them.
To repeat what has already been said, you have to make sure your line is packed on your reel tight. It can't be said enough that if using a light weight lure you need to let the line out occasionally and retrieve under heavy pressure. If you do this after fishing you might try this while wearing a wet leather glove.
Also, when putting your line on your reel, first put on packing or at least wrap a strip of duct tape around the arbor of your reel - you don't want any slipage of your line.
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06-24-2010, 12:07 PM
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xxx
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Playin' in the Dark
Posts: 2,407
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lighter, limper line seams to pack better with lighter lures. if fishing bombers, etc. i'd tend to go with 30 or 40 lb braid. save the 65 for heavy jigging, rigged eels, etc.
personally, i hate power pro. also, where i fish, i see no reason for line heavier than 50. 20, 30 and 50 suffix meet all my needs.
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"Remember, my friend, that knowledge is stronger than memory, and we should not trust the weaker" - Van Helsing
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06-24-2010, 01:24 PM
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It's about respect baby!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
Posts: 6,358
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Original poster Needs to specify spin or conv. I like the 65# for conv. I was using 50# just fine but whenever I'd blow yo a reel the 50# took forever. Just need five more yards....  the 65# is easier to pick out too. 30# spin on sand. 50# suffix on spin for places that look like the face of the moon.
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06-24-2010, 01:27 PM
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Night Stalker
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: ............
Posts: 3,605
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThrowingTimber
Original poster Needs to specify spin or conv. I like the 65# for conv. I was using 50# just fine but whenever I'd blow yo a reel the 50# took forever. Just need five more yards....  the 65# is easier to pick out too. 30# spin on sand. 50# suffix on spin for places that look like the face of the moon.
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He's using spinning.
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06-24-2010, 02:25 PM
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xxx
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Playin' in the Dark
Posts: 2,407
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the_shocker
thinking of changing brands but still have a big spool of 65 pp left.
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try to sell it in classifieds. someone could use it.
i think that, for my safety, you should go back to mono 
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"Remember, my friend, that knowledge is stronger than memory, and we should not trust the weaker" - Van Helsing
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06-24-2010, 02:27 PM
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It's about respect baby!
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: ri
Posts: 6,358
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65# spin for bass? Overkill. 65# spin is more for bluefin no?
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06-24-2010, 03:08 PM
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Night Stalker
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: ............
Posts: 3,605
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThrowingTimber
65# spin for bass? Overkill. 65# spin is more for bluefin no?
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Look at his avatar Vic. He's a crazy fukker that only chases large!!!!!!! There's no such thing as overkill in his mind. Prepare to be SHOCKED!!!!!!! 
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06-24-2010, 04:33 PM
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Formerly the_shocker
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: ricca
Posts: 730
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FEELIN YOU!
using on spin gear. first year on the 65, last year i did 50. i figured more is better so don't have to tell any "the one that got away" stories. like what the cub scouts say... be prepared.
looks like vmc's straighten before pp breaks anyway. never really had any issues with pp, just heard it's not as round as some of the other brands. anyway, just bought a bunch of 50 suffix on the edge today.
alright.... 
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06-24-2010, 08:35 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Northport,NY
Posts: 172
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Surf Caster
i spooled my VS250 w/ 65 PP this year.... not a fan. Caused me a lot of trouble one night on the south side of montauk.... perched on a rock nonetheless. My other reels have Suffix braid and I personally like it much better.
I'm considering giving fireline a try on my VS250.
I've been using braid since converting from mono, but i've heard good things about fireline... i might give it a go.
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Huge fan of original Fireline on my VS. Have not had a break off in over 2 years. Well, I have but that was on the Penn with Power Pro.
Fireline is perfect for fishing rocks as it has much more abrasion resistance. I have lately been fishing barnacle covered rocks and catching 20 - high 30 pound fish in heavy current and not had a break off yet.
Did I mention that I hate Power Pro? No?
I hate Power Pro.
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06-24-2010, 09:03 PM
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#20
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 5,238
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Anyone use the Daiwa Samurai Braid? Man, that stuff feels like silk. That's going on my reels next.
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06-24-2010, 09:09 PM
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Super Moderator
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Middleboro MA
Posts: 17,125
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just started using it this year
don't like it for around rocks. not as good as suffix
great for distance though like canal fishing or sandy beach
I even put some on a 7' boat rod with stradic 5000, seems to cast nice
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06-24-2010, 10:01 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 5,238
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slipknot
just started using it this year
don't like it for around rocks. not as good as suffix
great for distance though like canal fishing or sandy beach
I even put some on a 7' boat rod with stradic 5000, seems to cast nice
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How would you compare the abrasion resistance compared to PP?
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06-24-2010, 10:05 PM
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#23
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 260
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Frankiesurf
Huge fan of original Fireline on my VS. Have not had a break off in over 2 years. Well, I have but that was on the Penn with Power Pro.
Fireline is perfect for fishing rocks as it has much more abrasion resistance. I have lately been fishing barnacle covered rocks and catching 20 - high 30 pound fish in heavy current and not had a break off yet.
Did I mention that I hate Power Pro? No?
I hate Power Pro.
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This is very encouraging! I think im going to give it a try.
I notice your located near me.... you're having a lot better luck than me because I have not been nailing 20-30 lb fish!!!
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06-24-2010, 10:08 PM
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#24
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Wellfleet, MA and Silver Spring, MD
Posts: 92
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I use light tackle. 20# power pro brain on spinners (4000 series) with 50# mono leader. Since the eyelets are small, I use a PR knot to attach the leader, it stays straight with no knot in the leader. Shimano Saragosa 4000F with a 7 foot pole, Shimano Terramar. I usually get big bass on this(see other posts). Magibraid is good line as well.
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